[PASSED] Repeal "Condemn Gest"

[Kaboomlandia]

Repeal “Condemn Gest”

Category: Repeal | Target: SC #122 | Proposed By: Kaboomlandia

The Security Council,

Recognizing the nation of Gest as one of the highest-ranking officers of The Black Riders and DEN, two of the most notorious raider organizations in the history of NationStates, where they executed thousands of raids from a period of 2011 to 2016, which led to Gest being condemned under Security Council Resolution #122;

Noting Gest’s extensive involvement with Predator, an extremely powerful military weapon later found to be in contravention of international law;

Shocked that during an investigation of Predator, Gest encouraged others involved with the program not to confess their involvement with Predator in order to avoid sanctions;

Remembering the events of April 2016, in which the Predator scandal resulted in the sudden obliteration of the region of DEN and the nation of Gest, among others, along with extensive World Assembly-sanctions being placed on many world leaders, including the leader of Gest, who received a one-year ban from joining the World Assembly under any nation, effectively prohibiting them from raiding;

Believing that it is improper to reward Gest for their leadership when several raids under their watch were executed using the Predator superweapon, which demonstrated no mercy for the innocent nations affected by these brutal invasions;

Aware that since many raiders treat condemnations as a reward, allowing Gest to retain their condemnation for raids that occurred using dishonourable methods is effectively rewarding them for their misdeeds;

Disgusted by Gest’s cruel actions towards other raider aligned nations, leading to the alienation and eventual defection of several nations;

Reasoning that since The Black Riders and DEN will continue to be defunct organizations that broke international law which led to their obliteration, and Gest has effectively been blacklisted from prominent raider organizations such as The Black Hawks, they no longer pose a threat to regional security or the innocent nations of the world;

Hereby repeals Security Council Resolution #122.

Co-authored by [nation=short]Drasnia[/nation] and [nation=short]The Sygian[/nation].

The gist of this resolution: Gest shouldn’t be rewarded for hits that he landed with Predator.

Not 100% sure on R4 things so some help with checking that would be appreciated.

The Security Council,

Recognizing the nation of Gest as one of the highest-ranking officers of The Black Riders and DEN, two of the most notorious raider organizations in the history of NationStates,, where he executed thousands of raids from a period of 2011 to 2016, which led to Gest being condemned under Security Council Resolution #122;

Noting Gest’s extensive involvement with the raider program Predator, an extremely powerful military weapon later found to be in contravention of international law;

Shocked that during an investigation of Predator, Gest encouraged others involved with the program not to confess their involvement with Predator in order to avoid sanctions;

Remembering the events of April 2016, in which the Predator scandal resulted in the sudden obliteration of the region of DEN and the nation of Gest, among others, along with extensive World Assembly-sanctions being placed on many world leaders, including the leader of Gest, who received a one-year ban from joining the World Assembly under any nation, effectively prohibiting them from raiding;

Believing that it is improper to reward Gest for their leadership when several raids under their watch were executed using the Predator technique, which demonstrated no mercy for the innocent nations affected by these brutal invasions;

Aware that since many raiders treat condemnations as a reward, allowing Gest to retain their condemnation for raids that occurred using dishonourable methods is effectively rewarding them for their misdeeds;

Disgusted by Gest’s cruel actions towards other raider aligned nations, leading to the alienation and eventual defection of several nations;

Reasoning that since The Black Riders and DEN will continue to be defunct organizations that broke international law which lead to their obliteration, and Gest has effectively been blacklisted from prominent raider organizations such as The Black Hawks, they no longer pose a threat to regional security or the innocent nations of the world;

Hereby repeals Security Council Resolution #122.

Co-authored by [nation=short]Drasnia[/nation] and [nation=short]The Sygian[/nation].

[The Sygian]

Support.

[Drasnia]

I support as well >.>

[Willania Imperium]

Support

[States of Glory]

Careful there. You use 'he' in the 'Recognizing' clause.

[Kaboomlandia]

Careful there. You use 'he' in the 'Recognizing' clause.

Whoops. Fixed, thanks.

[Benevolent Thomas]

I'm very conflicted. One one hand, I want nations to know that they should not be like Gest. On the other hand, I would like to see their accomplishments wiped from the record... I think I SUPPORT.

[Ramaeus]

who's gest again

[Aclion]

Support, should have been wiped along with the region I think.

[Thorn1000]

If my memory serves me right vandoosa was also condemned when they were using predator. If you’re going to try and get gest stripped of his condemnation why don’t you also strip Vadossa of theirs? I don’t care either way but give everyone the same treatment. Gest is generally hated and vandoosa is generally liked but I still want to see and equal treatment to the both of them.

[The Sygian]

If my memory serves me right vandoosa was also condemned when they were using predator. If you’re going to try and get gest stripped of his condemnation why don’t you also strip Vadossa of theirs? I don’t care either way but give everyone the same treatment. Gest is generally hated and vandoosa is generally liked but I still want to see and equal treatment to the both of them.

Except one of them encouraged their military to not go to moderation about using Predator and participated in raids that used it, and instead instructed them to conceal their involvement of it, while the other did the opposite.

There's a reason that one was banned for three months, and the other was banned for a whole year along with a puppetsweep.

What's sad is that it doesn't surprise me that you are falling to the rhetoric that Gest should be treated equal to Vandoosa. If you want to repeal Vandy's condemnation, go for it, but there is some rationality behind why a repeal of Gest's would probably pass and a repeal of Vandy's wouldn't.

[Benevolent Thomas]

I was starting to have hope for TRE

[Solorni]

Does Gest want this?

[Aclion]

If my memory serves me right vandoosa was also condemned when they were using predator. If you’re going to try and get gest stripped of his condemnation why don’t you also strip Vadossa of theirs? I don’t care either way but give everyone the same treatment. Gest is generally hated and vandoosa is generally liked but I still want to see and equal treatment to the both of them.

Repeals can only target one resolution.

Does Gest want this?

Do we care?

[Thorn1000]

If my memory serves me right vandoosa was also condemned when they were using predator. If you’re going to try and get gest stripped of his condemnation why don’t you also strip Vadossa of theirs? I don’t care either way but give everyone the same treatment. Gest is generally hated and vandoosa is generally liked but I still want to see and equal treatment to the both of them.

Except one of them encouraged their military to not go to moderation about using Predator and participated in raids that used it, and instead instructed them to conceal their involvement of it, while the other did the opposite.

There's a reason that one was banned for three months, and the other was banned for a whole year along with a puppetsweep.

What's sad is that it doesn't surprise me that you are falling to the rhetoric that Gest should be treated equal to Vandoosa. If you want to repeal Vandy's condemnation, go for it, but there is some rationality behind why a repeal of Gest's would probably pass and a repeal of Vandy's wouldn't.

I did not know that. My memory from that time is incredibly fuzzy at best. Thank you for the clarification.

[Kaboomlandia]

Does Gest want this?

Considering this condemnation effectively rewards him for cheating using Predator, I honestly don't care what he thinks.

[Willania Imperium]

Does Gest want this?

Who gives a bloody damn?

[Benevolent Thomas]

The SC is here to represent the will of the world, not Gest.

[Solorni]

When it comes to condemnations, it is something I place great value on. They are generally a silly thing, so I really only tend to support them if people want them. Other major delegates also place great value on such things.

[Benevolent Thomas]

When it comes to condemnations, it is something I place great value on. They are generally a silly thing, so I really only tend to support them if people want them. Other major delegates also place great value on such things.

this is for a repeal, you silly.

[Solorni]

When it comes to condemnations, it is something I place great value on. They are generally a silly thing, so I really only tend to support them if people want them. Other major delegates also place great value on such things.

this is for a repeal, you silly.

Lol whoops, I'm watching tv at the same time and did not read it. Yeah, I support this then.

[Willania Imperium]

When it comes to condemnations, it is something I place great value on. They are generally a silly thing, so I really only tend to support them if people want them. Other major delegates also place great value on such things.

Who the hell wants a condemnation? Satan? Actually, I guess he would appreciate it.

this is for a repeal, you silly.

Lol whoops, I'm watching tv at the same time and did not read it. Yeah, I support this then.

Glad to see we managed to resolve that mix-up.

[The Stalker]

Who the hell wants a condemnation? Satan? Actually, I guess he would appreciate it.

Actually we've been Commended, and we do appreciate it.

Strong support for this, would be very pleased to see this pass, no reason a cheater should be on the books.

[Drasnia]

Who the hell wants a condemnation? Satan? Actually, I guess he would appreciate it.

Actually we've been Commended, and we do appreciate it.

Strong support for this, would be very pleased to see this pass, no reason a cheater should be on the books.

There are some people who should stay condemned even though they were caught using Predator. Some didn't realize it was illegals, while others knew and tried to suppress those that reported it. I'm fine with letting the first group slide, but not the second.

[The Stalker]

Actually we've been Commended, and we do appreciate it.

Strong support for this, would be very pleased to see this pass, no reason a cheater should be on the books.

There are some people who should stay condemned even though they were caught using Predator. Some didn't realize it was illegals, while others knew and tried to suppress those that reported it. I'm fine with letting the first group slide, but not the second.

I accused Gest of cheating long before Predator, and he finally got caught far as i'm concerned. One of the biggest cheaters in the game, i'm personally surprised he isn't DOS.