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[DEFEATED] Repeal of Rights and Duties of WA States

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The establishment WA
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Total votes : 157

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Malachor VIII
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Founded: Dec 19, 2016
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Postby Malachor VIII » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:25 am

Keshiland wrote:It was both a failure and a success. I might have lost big but I now know that I have the support of 2000 nations that I can now incorporate into a new federation!

And how will you make a new federation? If you try again you will fail again.
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Cruxa
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Founded: Jul 07, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Cruxa » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:29 am

Honestly, this is starting to get a bit ridiculous. You can't influence international law if you're a half-baked ten year old Communist who simply wants to control the entire NS world with an iron fist and bad grammar.
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Araraukar
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Founded: May 14, 2007
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Araraukar » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:29 am

Malachor VIII wrote:
Keshiland wrote:It was both a failure and a success. I might have lost big but I now know that I have the support of 2000 nations that I can now incorporate into a new federation!

And how will you make a new federation? If you try again you will fail again.

OOC: Time to let this annoyance die, and stopping posting on it will make it die faster. Keshi has burned so many bridges that even if he had any way of knowing which 2k nations voted "for", he'd be unlikely to get them to partake anything started by him. (Besides which most of them are likely to be people who've never given the forums any thought nor will want to start to do so now.)
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Thermodolia
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Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:11 am

Keshiland wrote:It was both a failure and a success. I might have lost big but I now know that I have the support of 2000 nations that I can now incorporate into a new federation!

To quote an old Esurance commercial:

"That's not how it works! That's not how any of this works!"

The vast majority of those 2000 want less WA control of their nations not more.
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Thermodolia
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Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:14 am

Araraukar wrote:
Malachor VIII wrote:And how will you make a new federation? If you try again you will fail again.

OOC: Time to let this annoyance die, and stopping posting on it will make it die faster. Keshi has burned so many bridges that even if he had any way of knowing which 2k nations voted "for", he'd be unlikely to get them to partake anything started by him. (Besides which most of them are likely to be people who've never given the forums any thought nor will want to start to do so now.)

That's probably because a lot of those 2,000 want less WA control while Keshiland wants more.
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Altanni
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Founded: Jan 14, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Altanni » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:23 am

Keshiland wrote:It was both a failure and a success. I might have lost big but I now know that I have the support of 2000 nations that I can now incorporate into a new federation!

ooc// You'll have to repeal GAR#1 to do that, bud. You just sound like a sore loser.

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Excidium Planetis
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Founded: May 01, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Excidium Planetis » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:14 am

You know, I was partly hoping this was going to go full Bitely and pass by the slimmest of margins.
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Bears Armed
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Founded: Jun 01, 2006
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:42 am

Keshiland wrote:It was both a failure and a success. I might have lost big but I now know that I have the support of 2000 nations that I can now incorporate into a new federation!

:eyebrow:
You're not Jeremy Corbyn, are you?
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Willania Imperium
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Founded: Feb 06, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Willania Imperium » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:46 am

Keshiland wrote:It was both a failure and a success. I might have lost big but I now know that I have the support of 2000 nations that I can now incorporate into a new federation!


*facepalm* "You think this is a success? Do you think that despite that horrible proposal that has absolutely crushed any little respect we had, you will be able to create more? Do you think this can still survive with a stupid blunder like this?! Let me tell you something. No. Your chance is gone. 'E's passed on! Your chance is no more! It has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the GA 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is writings are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-CHANCE! AND I EXPECT YOU TO RESPECT THE DEAD INSTEAD OF KICKING IT FOR WHAT LITTLE IT HAS!!!! >:(

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The Greater Siriusian Domain
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Founded: Mar 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby The Greater Siriusian Domain » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:07 am

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Thermodolia
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Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:31 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Keshiland wrote:It was both a failure and a success. I might have lost big but I now know that I have the support of 2000 nations that I can now incorporate into a new federation!

:eyebrow:
You're not Jeremy Corbyn, are you?

If Corbyn was a yank, yes
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>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
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The Sheika
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Founded: Jul 27, 2011
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Postby The Sheika » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:55 pm

Keshiland wrote:It was both a failure and a success. I might have lost big but I now know that I have the support of 2000 nations that I can now incorporate into a new federation!


It's good to try to be optimistic, but this was a colossal failure. All told, the repeal attempt was soundly defeated and in the process quite a few members of the Assembly have learned that any attempt to help you create a successful resolution are likely to fail due to being ignored or told they are wrong. On top of that, I am more than willing to wager that a good portion of those 2,000 or so nations voted in favor of the repeal out of want for less control from the WA, not more control from a federation. I am also willing to wager that much of the friction and resistance offered on your part is a considerable reason why the repeal attempt had failed.

OOC: If you are seeking to create a multinational federation, might I recommend you found your own region and set it up there. That way interested nations can join, and those who would rather not can abstain from joining said region.
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Shazbotdom
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Founded: Sep 28, 2004
Anarchy

Postby Shazbotdom » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:47 pm

I just noticed on my WA puppet, did he even tag the TG for this as a campaign TG?
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Excidium Planetis
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Founded: May 01, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Excidium Planetis » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:56 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:I just noticed on my WA puppet, did he even tag the TG for this as a campaign TG?


Yes, he did. Was the only thing right about the campaign.
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