[DEFEATED] Commend Christian Democrats

[United Massachusetts]

COMMEND Christian Democrats

The World Assembly,

Aware of the political controversy surrounding @Christian_Democrats, one of the most prominent right-leaning nations across this world, and respecting the right to disagree with their politics,

Believing, however, that nations across the political spectrum who have made laudable achievements ought to be recognized, a goal of this Council since its foundation,

Categorically Stating that Christian Democrats is a member of this select group of nations, having improved the world across multiple facets of life,

Marveling at the vast list of resolutions the Christian Democratic World Assembly Mission has authored, among which include the following resolutions which have retained widespread support:

• GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act
• SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic"
• GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition
• GA#213: Privacy Protection Act
• GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research"
• GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act
• GA#310: Disabled Voters Act
• GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution"

Also recognizing that Christian Democrats has brought to light four issues for the nations of the world to consider, all of which the government's of the world are now able to take action upon:

• Foetal Furore, which allows nations to handle the precarious balance between the legal right to abortion and the practice of free speech in protest thereof,
• Bicameral Backlash, which deals with the various benefits, drawbacks, and, apparently, impassioned arguing, associated with the existence of an Upper House in national legislative bodies,
• Electile Dysfunction, an issue which allows nations to choose the system of voting best suited to their needs,
• Clerical Errors, which deals with the question of sex in the ordination of religious ministers,

Thankful for their former service in compiling and maintaining a list of all known issues that have been brought before these NationStates, a task now in the hands of @Drasnia,

Applauding Christian Democrats' service as Speaker of the Assembly in the now defunct Founderless Regions Alliance, which served as a premier force to protect the most vulnerable among us, communities whose founder has fallen victim to Violet's wrath,

Praising their long and dedicated service as World Assembly Delegate of Catholic, a region which had previously fallen victim to the raider menace, now a thriving community protected by their careful stewardship,

Lauding the steady hand with which Christian Democrats leads Right to Life, a representative democracy consistently listed within the top 100 most populated regions of the world by the gnomes at the World Assembly,

Marveling at their numerous contributions to life in the Rejected Realms as Ministers of Internal Affairs, Culture, WA Affairs, and media, among other roles, and their involvement in Westphalia as Crown Prince and Regent,

Believing earnestly that, if not for the innumerable lists and arguments made by Christian Democrats, in the halls of global interaction, the ambassadors of the World Assembly would have insufferably boring jobs,

Commends @Christian_Democrats.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

First read is very favourable, one or two grammar tweaks required but they're minor. I'd point them out but it's late here and I'm off to bed.

Will have another look tomorrow.

[Unibot III]

If you wanted to get specific, Christian Democrats played a significant community role in TRR as a Citizenship Councillor and Senior Officer, btw.

Full support.

[Drop Your Pants]

Applauding Christian Democrats' service as Speaker of the Assembly in the now defunct Founderless Regions Alliance, which served as a premier force to protect the most vulnerable among us, communities whose founder has fallen victim to the will of Violet,

Bloody useless defender though.

[Cerian Quilor]

No.

God, if there was ever anyone in thie game who didn't deserve commendation... well, okay, there's lots of people above CD on that list, but he certainly belongs on it.

[Kurnugia]

No.

God, if there was ever anyone in thie game who didn't deserve commendation... well, okay, there's lots of people above CD on that list, but he certainly belongs on it.

Care to elaborate?

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

One thing you may need to get a ruling on relates to CD's membership of the GA Secretariat - I know you haven't mentioned their membership, but it's possible that you might have to remove all mention of their GA resolutions because of it.

I cite Sedge's ruling in the draft of "Commend Candlewhisper Archive" here.

viewtopic.php?p=31265161#p31265161

I know this relates to Issues Editors but I think you need to clarify whether this would apply to GA Secretariat members and if they are now counted as site staff.

[Drop Your Pants]

No.

God, if there was ever anyone in thie game who didn't deserve commendation... well, okay, there's lots of people above CD on that list, but he certainly belongs on it.

Me and you are a lot higher on that list than CD

[Christian Democrats]

• Before somebody else says something, I don't think my involvement in Balder's first constitutional convention is significant enough to mention in a commendation proposal. In fact, I removed it from my factbook at least a year ago.
  
• At this time, I've authored four issues for the game.

Applauding Christian Democrats' service as Speaker of the Assembly in the now defunct Founderless Regions Alliance, which served as a premier force to protect the most vulnerable among us, communities whose founder has fallen victim to the will of Violet,

Bloody useless defender though.

You should go look at my record as an FRA spy.

[Ransium]

One thing you may need to get a ruling on relates to CD's membership of the GA Secretariat - I know you haven't mentioned their membership, but it's possible that you might have to remove all mention of their GA resolutions because of it.

I cite Sedge's ruling in the draft of "Commend Candlewhisper Archive" here.

viewtopic.php?p=31265161#p31265161

I know this relates to Issues Editors but I think you need to clarify whether this would apply to GA Secretariat members and if they are now counted as site staff.

I was wondering this as well. it seems to me that a solid case could be made for allowing mention of WA authorship as they essentially have no advantage in authorship. But I definitely would like mod clarification.

[United Massachusetts]

• Before somebody else says something, I don't think my involvement in Balder's first constitutional convention is significant enough to mention in a commendation proposal. In fact, I removed it from my factbook at least a year ago.
  
• At this time, I've authored four issues for the game.

Bloody useless defender though.

You should go look at my record as an FRA spy.

I'm sorry-all fixed. Issues solved. I mistook two of them. I've removed Balder references. Thank you!

[Drasnia]

You probably should mention that CD maintained the issues Spoiler thread for a time.

[Consular]

I remember CD arguing quite heavily against CAIN alongside those other questionable types.

I'm inclined against.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

You probably should mention that CD maintained the issues Spoiler thread for a time.

"Thread" would be an illegal term - would have to work around that.

I remember CD arguing quite heavily against CAIN alongside those other questionable types.

Which is one reason, amongst others, that I would not support this Commendation and would argue that TWP's Delegate do likewise.

[United Massachusetts]

You probably should mention that CD maintained the issues Spoiler thread for a time.

"Thread" would be an illegal term - would have to work around that.

Fixed

I remember CD arguing quite heavily against CAIN alongside those other questionable types.

I'm inclined against.

*sighs* I think you know full well of TRF's attempt to slander Right to Life via CAIN. To call us a Nazi Collaborator was an attack on pro-lifers, not on Nazis. To be honest, when "NAZI!" is thrown around to attack anyone who disagrees with you, which TRF did, it treats the greatest evil perpetuated in human history as a mere means to pursue a covert, fundamentally political end. It's sickening. Neither Christian Democrats nor I nor anyone in Right to Life said that everyone in CAIN did this, but its clear that the leadership of the organization tolerated an attempt by the Red Fleet to attack the reputation of a pro-life, non-fascist region which they publicly desire the destruction of.

[Benevolent Thomas]

The problem with past attempts to Commend CD was their pushing of a conservative agenda in the World Assembly. This resolution is well worded in that it acknowledges this, but asks members to view the nation for its accomplishments rather than their politics. This is the best proposal for Commending CD that I've seen thus far. I don't yet know how I'll vote if a draft reaches the floor.

[Abhichandra]

Instead of mentioning a list of all the resolutions CD has authored, I recommend you choose 3 and explain how they benefited the NS Community. (Sort of like how I did for IA)

[Consular]

*sighs* I think you know full well of TRF's attempt to slander Right to Life via CAIN. To call us a Nazi Collaborator was an attack on pro-lifers, not on Nazis. To be honest, when "NAZI!" is thrown around to attack anyone who disagrees with you, which TRF did, it treats the greatest evil perpetuated in human history as a mere means to pursue a covert, fundamentally political end. It's sickening. Neither Christian Democrats nor I nor anyone in Right to Life said that everyone in CAIN did this, but its clear that the leadership of the organization tolerated an attempt by the Red Fleet to attack the reputation of a pro-life, non-fascist region which they publicly desire the destruction of.

At the risk of dredging up CAIN arguments in a tangentially related thread, that's not how I saw it at all. CAIN's guidelines are really quite simple -- do not maintain relations with Nazi regions. That is not a difficult demand to meet. Your excuses are worthless.

Calling an organisation I have a fair amount of respect for "sickening" isn't the best way to change my mind either.

And of course this was just my first reason for not supporting a commendation of CD. As Thomas touched on -- they have a long history of controversial politics that I do not care for.

I will concede the resolution is well written though.

[Goddess Relief Office]

Supported. CD's a very deserving candidate.

[Tinhampton]

Marveling at the vast list of resolutions the Christian Democratic World Assembly Mission has authored or co-authored, among which include the following eight resolutions which have been preserved by this Assembly for their clear success:

That's nine resolutions - eight for the GA, and one repeal in the SC.

Also appreciating that Christian Democrats has brought to light four issues for the nations of the world to consider, both of which the government's of the world are now able to take action upon:

You probably mean "...all of which...", given that all four issues have been described.

Thankful for their service in compiling and maintaining a list of all known issues that have been brought before these NationStates,

Given that the list is now in the custody of Drasnia, should this make clear that CD formerly kept the list?

Believing earnestly that, if not for the countless lists and arguments made by Christian Democrats in the halls of global interaction, the ambassadors of the World Assembly would have insufferably boring job,

It's either "an insufferably boring job" or "insufferingly boring jobs".

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Anyway, grammar remains my only worry with this resolution - I remain FOR.

[United Massachusetts]

Marveling at the vast list of resolutions the Christian Democratic World Assembly Mission has authored or co-authored, among which include the following eight resolutions which have been preserved by this Assembly for their clear success:

That's nine resolutions - eight for the GA, and one repeal in the SC.

Also appreciating that Christian Democrats has brought to light four issues for the nations of the world to consider, both of which the government's of the world are now able to take action upon:

You probably mean "...all of which...", given that all four issues have been described.

Thankful for their service in compiling and maintaining a list of all known issues that have been brought before these NationStates,

Given that the list is now in the custody of Drasnia, should this make clear that CD formerly kept the list?

Believing earnestly that, if not for the countless lists and arguments made by Christian Democrats in the halls of global interaction, the ambassadors of the World Assembly would have insufferably boring job,

It's either "an insufferably boring job" or "insufferingly boring jobs".

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Anyway, grammar remains my only worry with this resolution - I remain FOR.

Thank you. All taken into account

[Sierra Lyricalia]

The problem with past attempts to Commend CD was their pushing of a conservative agenda in the World Assembly...

And of course this was just my first reason for not supporting a commendation of CD. As Thomas touched on -- they have a long history of controversial politics that I do not care for.

I freely admit to knowing squat about the GP side of things, and make no comment on anything outside of the General Assembly.

But to my knowledge every single one of CD's passed GA resolutions is supportable across most of the political spectrum. I don't agree with everything he's argued for, but of his actual legislative accomplishments there's really nothing to criticize; and the skill and work it took to pass them is admirable even if you despise every one of them. Taking the tack that "Yes, the fact that I disagree with him on issues means his gameplay is objectively pedestrian and should be ignored by the Security Council" is extremely small-minded. Of the possible arguments against commendation, that's the dumbest, pettiest, and least legitimate.

Signed,

A far left fellow traveler who disagrees with CD on many, many issues.

[The Stalker]

No, I'm not commending a player for his promotion of hippism (which includes communism and recreational drug use according to the WFE), for having a WA nation that is named after a serious form of harassment, and for identifying with Lucifer.

Oh wait that's what he said about me, lol.

CD certainly has the accomplishments needed for a Commending, but I don't think I can bring myself to vote for, too much of the religious right.

[Benevolent Thomas]

It seems as if Sierra Lyricalia did not read the entirety of my post (certainly did not quote the vast majority of it) and made assumptions about me. Kind of ironic. Maybe I won't add context to a discussion when somebody in the thread asks for it next time.

[Jakker]

It seems as if Sierra Lyricalia did not read the entirety of my post (certainly did not quote the vast majority of it) and made assumptions about me. Kind of ironic. Maybe I won't add context to a discussion when somebody in the thread asks for it next time.

Dang, your posts have been even more whiny than usual. You literally said that CD "pushes a conservative agenda in the World Assembly." Sierra Lyricalia was making an argument against that specific point. Not addressing your whole post does not mean it was not read.

CD is quite polarizing. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I personally don't see some of the arguments in the proposal commendable like being delegate of Catholic or maintaining the issues thread.