[PASSED] Commend Imperium Anglorum

[Wallenburg]

Is...is discussing Communique legal?

I think so, because Communiqué is a program offsite from NS, and as far as I see it, it doesn't violate any rules.

Would that not make this a textbook 4(a) violation?

[Abhichandra]

I think so, because Communiqué is a program offsite from NS, and as far as I see it, it doesn't violate any rules.

Would that not make this a textbook 4(a) violation?

Real World References:
Some terms normally considered Real World references can be worked into proposals, so long as it's clearly demonstrated what the terms mean within NationStates (see here and here).

From what it says in the SC rules, as long as it is clearly demonstrated what the terms mean within NS are fine. In my proposal, I said "Communiqué, a program which sends mass and recruitment telegrams". So even though it's an offsite tool, it relates to NationStates.

[Abhichandra]

The proposal has reached quorum and is in queue! Thank you to all the delegates who approved it.

[Abhichandra]

It is now at vote! Again, big thanks to all the delegates who approved it.

[Europe and Oceania]

We voted for this.

[Abhichandra]

We voted for this.

Thanks for your support!

[The Elba]

What happened to Europe and its delegate (coincidentally the one being brought up for commendation here) abstaining from all SC matters?

[Sciongrad]

What happened to Europe and its delegate (coincidentally the one being brought up for commendation here) abstaining from all SC matters?

Got him. I guess that means this needs to be repealed.

[Lemmingtopias]

It seems to the Lemmingtopian Delegation that, while the information presented here certainly makes us believe the nominee's efforts should be recognised in some way, most of it is either efforts more appropriately commended on a regional level or efforts already noted through the Resolution Author stamp.

We feel that the bits that may be worthy of commendation by the SC are lost in the crowd of other information.

Therefore we are currently undecided on this proposal.

[Consular]

I think it is a tad unclassy to vote for your own commendation but oh well.

[Abhichandra]

It seems to the Lemmingtopian Delegation that, while the information presented here certainly makes us believe the nominee's efforts should be recognised in some way, most of it is either efforts more appropriately commended on a regional level or efforts already noted through the Resolution Author stamp.

We feel that the bits that may be worthy of commendation by the SC are lost in the crowd of other information.

Therefore we are currently undecided on this proposal.

Well, the proposal basically brings in all the information that IA has done; more than extended work in the GA forum (14 resolutions and has helped multiple authors with their proposals), improving NationStates by developing programs for it, improving Europe by enacting several laws, etc. So the proposal brings in all of IA's accomplishments.

[Lemmingtopias]

It seems to the Lemmingtopian Delegation that, while the information presented here certainly makes us believe the nominee's efforts should be recognised in some way, most of it is either efforts more appropriately commended on a regional level or efforts already noted through the Resolution Author stamp.

We feel that the bits that may be worthy of commendation by the SC are lost in the crowd of other information.

Therefore we are currently undecided on this proposal.

Well, the proposal basically brings in all the information that IA has done; more than extended work in the GA forum (14 resolutions and has helped multiple authors with their proposals), improving NationStates by developing programs for it, improving Europe by enacting several laws, etc. So the proposal brings in all of IA's accomplishments.

Yes, I am not against fleshing it out with the context of one's career. But it is difficult to see what, other than is already recognisable by other means, there is left as well as that.

[Wallenburg]

It seems to the Lemmingtopian Delegation that, while the information presented here certainly makes us believe the nominee's efforts should be recognised in some way, most of it is either efforts more appropriately commended on a regional level or efforts already noted through the Resolution Author stamp.

We feel that the bits that may be worthy of commendation by the SC are lost in the crowd of other information.

Therefore we are currently undecided on this proposal.

Well, the proposal basically brings in all the information that IA has done; more than extended work in the GA forum (14 resolutions and has helped multiple authors with their proposals), improving NationStates by developing programs for it, improving Europe by enacting several laws, etc. So the proposal brings in all of IA's accomplishments.

You timed your submission rather poorly, however, given that IA shit on the GA community less than 2 weeks ago.

[Elke and Elba]

It seems to the Lemmingtopian Delegation that, while the information presented here certainly makes us believe the nominee's efforts should be recognised in some way, most of it is either efforts more appropriately commended on a regional level or efforts already noted through the Resolution Author stamp.

We feel that the bits that may be worthy of commendation by the SC are lost in the crowd of other information.

Therefore we are currently undecided on this proposal.

Well, the proposal basically brings in all the information that IA has done; more than extended work in the GA forum (14 resolutions and has helped multiple authors with their proposals), improving NationStates by developing programs for it, improving Europe by enacting several laws, etc. So the proposal brings in all of IA's accomplishments.

And my question would be - why not The Dourian Embassy, or SkyDip?

Seriously I don't really give a flying flute what one does intra-region. It's none of my business what he did to Europe, because that's not unique. Many others do stuff for their own region as well.

Both wrote more GA and SC resolutions than IA ever did.

[Sciongrad]

Well, the proposal basically brings in all the information that IA has done; more than extended work in the GA forum (14 resolutions and has helped multiple authors with their proposals), improving NationStates by developing programs for it, improving Europe by enacting several laws, etc. So the proposal brings in all of IA's accomplishments.

You timed your submission rather poorly, however, given that IA shit on the GA community less than 2 weeks ago.

I mean, how many votes does the GA community have, really? And I don't mean that in a snide way, it's just that the forum is basically inconsequential when it comes to actually passing things. And frankly, we all bash on the GA community all the time. And rightfully so -- we usually deserving a good bashing.

Both wrote more GA and SC resolutions than IA ever did.

It's not really about quantity. I don't know enough about SkyDip to comment, but Douria's impact on the GA was basically ephemeral and his play style didn't leave any impact on the community. IA has had a much larger role in shaping the modern GA game.

[Willania Imperium]

Both wrote more GA and SC resolutions than IA ever did.

You could write a million resolutions and only have a minority pass, but it would be worth nothing compared to having written less resolutions but having a majority pass.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Well, the proposal basically brings in all the information that IA has done; more than extended work in the GA forum (14 resolutions and has helped multiple authors with their proposals), improving NationStates by developing programs for it, improving Europe by enacting several laws, etc. So the proposal brings in all of IA's accomplishments.

And my question would be - why not The Dourian Embassy, or SkyDip?

Seriously I don't really give a flying flute what one does intra-region. It's none of my business what he did to Europe, because that's not unique. Many others do stuff for their own region as well.

Both wrote more GA and SC resolutions than IA ever did.

SkyDip was Commended (SC #118). Dourian wasn't, but he did get the other badge (SC#140).

[Elke and Elba]

Both wrote more GA and SC resolutions than IA ever did.

It's not really about quantity. I don't know enough about SkyDip to comment, but Douria's impact on the GA was basically ephemeral and his play style didn't leave any impact on the community. IA has had a much larger role in shaping the modern GA game.

Like, putting numbers before "GA"?

Both wrote more GA and SC resolutions than IA ever did.

You could write a million resolutions and only have a few pass, but it would be worth nothing compared to having written less resolutions but having all of them pass.

All?

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SkyDip was Commended (SC #118). Dourian wasn't, but he did get the other badge (SC#140).

Yep indeed, my mistake on SkyDip. I don't think Douria wants the badge anyway from what I recall in previous discussions - but it goes to show how shallow the reasons stipulated in this entire resolution is.

I don't mind if this pass or not (although the Elba, has voted against from how the region has voted). In fact, it's quite a hilarious show indeed - IA going against Europe's policies and voting for his own commendation an hour into voting, IA being the first to approve this proposal when it was tabled, just for a bunch of applauses for writing resolutions, being delegate and doing a few stuffs for Europe. No other (passed/going to pass) commendation could have been any worse.

[Holy Tedalonia]

I was ok for it until it started talking about what they voted for. I think commending a region because they voted for certain things is silly. It's literally, "here have a trophy for voting for the subatomic cats law!"

[Sciongrad]

Like, putting numbers before "GA"?

... What?

[Spaartaa]

for.
imperium anglorum has gone too long without being noticed

[Europe and Oceania]

We voted for this.

Thanks for your support!

No problem comrade!

[Utopia42]

Further acknowledging that Imperium Anglorum enacted several laws for Europe, including Europe's Basic Law, which constitutes and organizes how the region is run, and has extensively wrote and introduced other policies for Europe,

I belive that should be "written", not wrote. Wrote is the simple past tense form, using "has" makes it present perfect tense instead. But of course it doesn't really matter now, since this is already at vote.

[Jakker]

SkyDip was Commended (SC #118). Dourian wasn't, but he did get the other badge (SC#140).

Yep indeed, my mistake on SkyDip. I don't think Douria wants the badge anyway from what I recall in previous discussions - but it goes to show how shallow the reasons stipulated in this entire resolution is.

I don't mind if this pass or not (although the Elba, has voted against from how the region has voted). In fact, it's quite a hilarious show indeed - IA going against Europe's policies and voting for his own commendation an hour into voting, IA being the first to approve this proposal when it was tabled, just for a bunch of applauses for writing resolutions, being delegate and doing a few stuffs for Europe. No other (passed/going to pass) commendation could have been any worse.

It's clear IA wants himself commended and I mean nothing wrong with that. He has made it clear in the past that he believes that Europe is deserving of a commendation for their GA resolutions.

^ 16 General Assembly resolutions. Europe has 14 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 20 ! (And probably a few more which I cannot recall off the top of my head.) I'd love a commendation for Europe.

[Abhichandra]

The proposal has passed! Thank you to everyone who has supported it!