NationStates

Posted: **Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:17 am**

United Massachusetts wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:No draft, no support. I am not familiar with the history of this proposal, but from what I have heard so far, this thing has been a train wreck from the beginning.

You know, there's a reason people tend to avoid the forums here. There are many people who are quite rude to authors, and they instead want to do private drafting. Is this that wrong?

I'm sorry, but demanding basic standards to receive my personal approval is my prerogative. I have yet to see a decent proposal come to vote without a drafting process, and I doubt I ever will. Drafting has an essential role in providing time for players to offer input, suggestions, or criticism before submission to the proposal queue. This results in not only a less illegal proposal, but one that is better written in nearly every way. If you are so disinterested in what voters have to say about your draft, then I question why you should expect support at all.

Is there a "you need a draft rule?"

No, but there should be.

Posted: **Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:27 am**

Cepcecic Ghost wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:
"Questionable" isn't about the author's SC experience, but about the fact that the author has multied repeatedly in the past.

When did I multi repeatedly? I have one recent charge which I contest to this date.

Okay, maybe my memory is iffy on that point, but the other point is that you're also banned from the region I reside in for a lot of prolonged RMB spamming.

In addition, this lists accomplishments that aren't really unique to TRR (including that they have a newspaper - Hell's Bells says hi) and commending them just for defending.

Posted: **Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:44 am**

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Cepcecic Ghost wrote:When did I multi repeatedly? I have one recent charge which I contest to this date.

Okay, maybe my memory is iffy on that point, but the other point is that you're also banned from the region I reside in for a lot of prolonged RMB spamming.

In addition, this lists accomplishments that aren't really unique to TRR (including that they have a newspaper - Hell's Bells says hi) and commending them just for defending.

Alright then. I capitulate. What now?

Posted: **Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:46 am**

Cepcecic Ghost wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Okay, maybe my memory is iffy on that point, but the other point is that you're also banned from the region I reside in for a lot of prolonged RMB spamming.

In addition, this lists accomplishments that aren't really unique to TRR (including that they have a newspaper - Hell's Bells says hi) and commending them just for defending.

Alright then. I capitulate. What now?

We celebrate.

Posted: **Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:22 am**

The Marsupial Illuminati wrote:
Cepcecic Ghost wrote:Alright then. I capitulate. What now?

We celebrate.

How decent.

Posted: **Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:27 pm**

The Marsupial Illuminati wrote:
Cepcecic Ghost wrote:Alright then. I capitulate. What now?

We celebrate.

Let's crack open the champagne!

Posted: **Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:22 pm**

Only 2 Days Left for Voting

For: 36.6% (5,110)
Against: 63.64 (8,834)

GO VOTE >

Posted: **Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:12 pm**

Cepcecic Ghost wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:
"Questionable" isn't about the author's SC experience, but about the fact that the author has multied repeatedly in the past.

When did I multi repeatedly? I have one recent charge which I contest to this date.

Your appeal was denied, wasn't it? Your continuing to contest it just looks like a lack of remorse to me.

Posted: **Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:26 am**

United Massachusetts wrote:You know, there's a reason people tend to avoid the forums here. There are many people who are quite rude to authors, and they instead want to do private drafting.

Internet communities are not healthy places for the thin-skinned.

United Massachusetts wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:Poorly written. Doesn't fully capture TRR's accomplishments. Very questionable author. Shouldn't have even made quorum.

AGAINST.

Is your definition of "very questionable" based on number of resolutions authored or status as a SC regular? If so, that seems quite elitist.

No. In this instance, it's based on his recent history while attempting to author this resolution.

He seems to have developed a poor reputation with moderation, accruing at least one World Assembly ban. It is a ban which he attempted to lie to everyone about only a few pages ago.

Crazy girl wrote:
Cepcecic Ghost wrote:And b. Moderators are looking into to whether it was a false WA Ban. They believe that there is a high probability.

No, no we do not. We never said such a thing, and I do believe you have received a telegram saying your appeal has been denied.

Posted: **Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:03 am**

So then now what? I've been completely shit-talked to oblivion here, so now what? Delete my nation? Eat my shoe? Go join Anonymous?

(I'm honestly just waiting for the vote to be over so that I can re-draft this one year or many months from now. It will look SO much better.)

Posted: **Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:49 am**

The United Federation of Thetos wrote:Only 2 Days Left for Voting

For: 36.6% (5,110)
Against: 63.64 (8,834)

GO VOTE >

Yeah.... It's not going to pass..... ): ..... I like TRR.....

Posted: **Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:13 pm**

NationHelper wrote:
The United Federation of Thetos wrote:Only 2 Days Left for Voting

For: 36.6% (5,110)
Against: 63.64 (8,834)

GO VOTE >

Yeah.... It's not going to pass..... ): ..... I like TRR.....

I'll wait till the vote's over, then I'm not approaching the WA for a while.

Posted: **Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:39 pm**

Cepcecic Ghost wrote:
NationHelper wrote:Yeah.... It's not going to pass..... ): ..... I like TRR.....

I'll wait till the vote's over, then I'm not approaching the WA for a while.

Only 6 hours left

For: 36.8% (6,099)
Against: 63.2 (10,469)

GO VOTE >

Posted: **Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:12 pm**

Posted: **Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:15 pm**

Only 2 Hours Left for Voting

For: 37.0% (6,233)
Against: 63.0 (10,602)

Prediction: Against.

GO VOTE >

Posted: **Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:49 pm**

Commend the Rejected Realms" was defeated 10,680 votes to 6,279.

Can't say I didn't enjoy posting this result.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:33 am**

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Commend the Rejected Realms" was defeated 10,680 votes to 6,279.

Can't say I didn't enjoy posting this result.

*sighs* Well. I'm going to retreat for a while from the World Assembly, not resigning, but not getting too involved. Clearly everyone here hates me and would crack open some champagne if something in the news told you I was dead.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:56 am**

Cepcecic Diplomacy wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Commend the Rejected Realms" was defeated 10,680 votes to 6,279.

Can't say I didn't enjoy posting this result.

*sighs* Well. I'm going to retreat for a while from the World Assembly, not resigning, but not getting too involved. Clearly everyone here hates me and would crack open some champagne if something in the news told you I was dead.

A bit of an exaggeration?

A lot of authors have lost resolution votes.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:16 am**

Cepcecic Diplomacy wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Commend the Rejected Realms" was defeated 10,680 votes to 6,279.

Can't say I didn't enjoy posting this result.

*sighs* Well. I'm going to retreat for a while from the World Assembly, not resigning, but not getting too involved. Clearly everyone here hates me and would crack open some champagne if something in the news told you I was dead.

At least for me, I just hated the resolution you wrote, not you :hug:

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:21 am**

Frattastan II wrote:
Cepcecic Diplomacy wrote:*sighs* Well. I'm going to retreat for a while from the World Assembly, not resigning, but not getting too involved. Clearly everyone here hates me and would crack open some champagne if something in the news told you I was dead.

A bit of an exaggeration?
A lot of authors have lost resolution votes.

To be fair, the WA is very very harsh to newcomers to the point where I could see why people get put off.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:59 am**

Canton Empire wrote:
Frattastan II wrote:
A bit of an exaggeration?
A lot of authors have lost resolution votes.

To be fair, the WA is very very harsh to newcomers to the point where I could see why people get put off.

Maybe if someone else submitted that same proposal, it would get more votes.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:04 am**

NationHelper wrote:
Canton Empire wrote:To be fair, the WA is very very harsh to newcomers to the point where I could see why people get put off.

Maybe if someone else submitted that same proposal, it would get more votes.

Ever heard of plagiarism?

Anyway, even with the author's permission to use his draft it would still fail because it's poorly written and researched.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:13 am**

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
NationHelper wrote:Maybe if someone else submitted that same proposal, it would get more votes.

Ever heard of plagiarism?

Anyway, even with the author's permission to use his draft it would still fail because it's poorly written and researched.

I said "more votes". Also, your right, I know Cepcecic, and he wants the authors badge.....

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:25 am**

Cepcecic Diplomacy wrote: Clearly everyone here hates me and would crack open some champagne if something in the news told you I was dead.

Where in the absolute fuck did that come from?
I sincerely hope you were purposefully overreacting.

Posted: **Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:09 am**

Ridersyl wrote:
Cepcecic Diplomacy wrote: Clearly everyone here hates me and would crack open some champagne if something in the news told you I was dead.

Where in the absolute fuck did that come from?
I sincerely hope you were purposefully overreacting.

I honestly don't know.....

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[DEFEATED] Commend The Rejected Realms