PASSED: Dignified End-of-Life Choices

[Musicolo]

You guys are making it sound like the WA is forcing people to be euthanized. It's sort of like saying that people who are in favor of arbotion choice are in favor of abortion. I'm in think this resolution is a good idea because it's really about granting people more freedom. And the argument saying that freedom isn't always good (freedom to molest children, murder, etc.) Is a valid one but I don't think it applies here. The difference is that murdering people or molesting children can hurt other people so the government has a responsibility to prevent those things from happening. But choosing to end your own life if you are suffering and have little chance of surviving I believe is more of a personal choice.

[Stragonubius]

You guys are making it sound like the WA is forcing people to be euthanized.

I agree with Voluntary Euthanasia, That's not a problem.
The wording of this Particular Bill however leaves too much out. For instance; if there is a reasonably painless option of pallitive care, the individual nation should be allowed to excuse themselves from permissing this person to end life.
Perhaps more people should be included in this intial bill that currently have none, eg. degenerating mental conditions.

6 months or less from death the patient mat not be able to Orally request this "death pill" twice in one business week, May not be able to write or sign the document pertaining to his "release." 2 separate Physicians must both come to the conclusion that the patient is indeed Terminally ill and is voluntarily requesting the medication of his/her own free will. Four times must this patient be informed about the pill by a physician before it is administered; on Four separate appointments.

I would continue, but your getting the point I hope.

Creating increased waiting times and Pain on the side of the patients, Wasting Taxpayer money (unless your healthcare is privatized) and increasing caseloads for the Physician.
It's a rather poorly worded Bill, albeit a Great idea, it needs more thought before it should be passed.

[Goobergunchia]

We are curious if the nations making the tired claims of national sovereignty as their reason for opposition have any substantive objections to the language in this resolution. In fact, section 5 of this resolution allows member nations exceptionally wide latitude in implementing this resolution. While we would prefer not to see such latitude in resolutions (we feel that making the previous sections optional results in a waste of verbiage), we feel that the active sections of the resolution is nonetheless commendable.

Goobergunchia votes in favor.

[float=right][/float][Lord] Michael Evif
Ambassador to the United Nations and any successor organizations
Liberal Unitary Republic of Goobergunchia
Resident, the Rejected Realms

[Velite]

I would personally like to commend Ambassador Studly Penguins and Ambassador Absolvability, this resolution is an excellent idea and has been spoken for admirably.

Whilst our nation is quite religiously minded, we respect the rights of an individual (within reason) and would concur that no person should be forced to endure excruciating pain and live in misery should they wish not to.

This resolution isnt forcing euthenasia upon any individual, it is simply enabling them to have that option, and there are many ways in which a nation can move around this resolution if they feel that they absolutely must. The Holy Empire Of Velite will be voting in favour of this resolution.

[Jdskinny]

The Distinguished and Maverick peoples of jdskinny believe the two conditions a patient must meet to terminate their own life are inadequate. Many terminal diseases cause muteness in patients, either pathologically, through contagion, or physical response. Further, this resolution does not provide for lapses in mental clarity caused by psychological disorders such as depression or bipolar disorder. We believe this mandate should be rescripted to account for these variables.

[President mccarthy]

I'm sorry but my nationjust don't think this is an issue that should be forced upon the internaional community. My nation support the issue but we also think it should be left up to a nations own intrests. International law like this one forces people to take one side of an issue. The WA should be a place for inclusion not exclusion

[President mccarthy]

sorry for the grammer mistakes

[Stragonubius]

I directly have no opposition to this resolution, only the cost incurred to nations not already having such a program in place.
I've changed my vote just recently, having discovered that I'm not really against this issue, I'd just really like to see a more in-depth coverage of how, why and the waiting times. All of which are national issues...

Your right
Thank you!

[Inchwellion]

I don't believe that it should just be allowed for terminally ill people but also people who are in extreme agony with no hope of it ending for years to come until they die naturally. What about these people?

[Aundotutunagir]

The People of Aundotutunagir oppose this! We have accordingly instructed our WA surrogates to vote AGAINST!

Why you may ask? We have perfected procedures which allow females to continue with child-bearing well into their '80s and '90s. One patriotic citizen even gave birth recently at the ripe old age of 103 while being kept alive by a respirator and a feeding tube. Furthermore, during the past year literally thousands of pregnancies have been carried to term by people suffering from painful and debilitating diseases, burn victims, and quadruple amputees. Had this resolution been in place (and had Aundotutunagir been a WA member), many of those births would not have occurred since the mothers might have chosen to take their own lives. We oppose any efforts by the WA to interfere with our Basic National Policy of Birth Rate Maximization.

[Stragonubius]

I don't believe that it should just be allowed for terminally ill people but also people who are in extreme agony with no hope of it ending for years to come until they die naturally. What about these people?

5. This resolution shall not preclude a nation from enacting an assisted suicide law that is less or more restrictive than this resolution, so long as said law complies with Sections 4 (D) and 4 (E).

Which means your nation may individually Choose to include those people suffering other debilitating disorders and diseases

[Stragonubius]

We oppose any efforts by the WA to interfere with our Basic National Policy of Birth Rate Maximization.

Easily Fixed!
The Patient Must on 2 separate occasions request the Pill.
After the first request simply attach the patient to a respirator making a second such attempt Impossible.

[Aundotutunagir]

We oppose any efforts by the WA to interfere with our Basic National Policy of Birth Rate Maximization.

Easily Fixed!
The Patient Must on 2 separate occasions request the Pill.
After the first request simply attach the patient to a respirator making a second such attempt Impossible.

I like the cut of your jib, Ambassador.

[Stragonubius]

I like the cut of your jib, Ambassador.

And I, yours.

[Malikov]

We oppose any efforts by the WA to interfere with our Basic National Policy of Birth Rate Maximization.

Easily Fixed!
The Patient Must on 2 separate occasions request the Pill.
After the first request simply attach the patient to a respirator making a second such attempt Impossible.

It's easy to administer a killing drug with a needle, and it's possible to remove the respirator in about 1 second. Oh Boy!!! A loophole within a loophole!!!!!

[Stragonubius]

It's easy to administer a killing drug with a needle, and it's possible to remove the respirator in about 1 second. Oh Boy!!! A loophole within a loophole!!!!!

The patient must also make a written request which cannot be done without hands, access to a pen and paper, Proof that the patient has not become incapable of making decisions based on pain tolerance, and 2 Viable witnesses that cannot be related to the patient (both of whom would have to gain admittance to a hospital under the goverments control).

2 separate physicians must agree on the diagnosis, whom I assume are on the goverments payroll?
and the patient must also be informed on 4 different occasions about the drug that is to be used...
All in all if you Cannot Stop the request, there is room for Decades of delay, red tape and general mischief.

Thanks for trying

[Qumkent]

The People of Aundotutunagir oppose this! We have accordingly instructed our WA surrogates to vote AGAINST!

Why you may ask? We have perfected procedures which allow females to continue with child-bearing well into their '80s and '90s. One patriotic citizen even gave birth recently at the ripe old age of 103 while being kept alive by a respirator and a feeding tube. Furthermore, during the past year literally thousands of pregnancies have been carried to term by people suffering from painful and debilitating diseases, burn victims, and quadruple amputees. Had this resolution been in place (and had Aundotutunagir been a WA member), many of those births would not have occurred since the mothers might have chosen to take their own lives. We oppose any efforts by the WA to interfere with our Basic National Policy of Birth Rate Maximization.

Mongkha, Khan of Kashgar, laughs quietly

Noble General as much as your evident pride in Aundotutunagir's policies is touching, it does not detract from the essential evil contained in them. What business your government has in forcing a policy of rape upon the invalided and crippled is inexplicable. Aundotutunagir is physically unable to support the populations its nightmarish policies are aimed at achieving and added to mass rape and violation of your people's basic rights your government will quickly become guilty of a new crime of depriving them of the very means to survive if it continues to pursue its criminally negligent and morally reprehensible goals.

Hide Aundotutunagir's shame Noble General, do not seek a spotlight for it. The right to die with dignity is vital if one is to uphold the individual human being's right to control what happens to their own body. That your Excellency's government does not understand this is evidence of the fact that Aundotutunagir's government does not even recognise or perhaps even understand its people's most basic and most intrinsic rights and is sunk in a moral decay from which it cannot extricate itself.


The specific merits of this resolution have compelled the government of the Principality of Qumkent to instruct us to abstain from voting in favour of it, though had it been slightly more broad we would have gladly done so. We applaud this statute's authors for their work in this field and though we do not specifically favour this statute we are glad that its authors have seen fit to address what is undoubtedly a morally compelling issue.


Yours sincerely,

[Zifnab]

My country wholeheartedly supports premature death. Nothing better than to die young and leave a good looking corpse for zombification.

Unfortunately Zifnab will not be voting on this issue as the WA is not recognized by the Holy Cult of Nude Zombies as an official organization.

Good day Sirs and Dames,

Zifnab

[Sunlumo]

As the people of Sunlumo can forsee no dire consequences resulting from this motion due to its careful provisions, we have no problem voting FOR to force this upon the International Community.

-The Soviet Socialist Republic of Sunlumo

[Bisgea]

As the people of Sunlumo can forsee no dire consequences resulting from this motion due to its careful provisions, we have no problem voting FOR to force this upon the International Community.

-The Soviet Socialist Republic of Sunlumo

Might I ask why, honored ambassador? This is an immoral action, somethig against the will of God. We vote AGAINST this proposal.
-Freddie Rosland,
Bisgean Ambassador to the WA

[Iron Kris]

This is an excellent piece of legislation, I am greatly impressed with the bravery to create this resolution. I fully agree with the resolution as it is written, and this has been a law in the Republic of Iron Kris for sometime. I am glad that this will hopefully become a WA measure for all countries. You have full support of the Republic of Iron Kris.

Iron Kris
Leader of The Republic of Iron Kris

[Sci-fleet]

I have another reason this shouldn't even come up, THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT LETS EACH COUNTRY DECIDE FOR ITSELF
and I think it should stay each nation's choice.

[Malikov]

It's easy to administer a killing drug with a needle, and it's possible to remove the respirator in about 1 second. Oh Boy!!! A loophole within a loophole!!!!!

The patient must also make a written request which cannot be done without hands, access to a pen and paper, Proof that the patient has not become incapable of making decisions based on pain tolerance, and 2 Viable witnesses that cannot be related to the patient (both of whom would have to gain admittance to a hospital under the goverments control).

2 separate physicians must agree on the diagnosis, whom I assume are on the goverments payroll?
and the patient must also be informed on 4 different occasions about the drug that is to be used...
All in all if you Cannot Stop the request, there is room for Decades of delay, red tape and general mischief.

Thanks for trying

Sure, thats true if your healthcare system is public, and not private. If it's private then none of that red tape will be there. Furthermore, if the doctors are crooked then they administer the drug, and list the offical death as "natural causes". Lastly, it's not hard for a paitent get a hold of a killing drug. Have someone sneak it in, and while the doctors out self-administer it. The visitor just says they saw the needle there when they came in. How will the law be able to check whether the story is true. Are they gonna ask the dead guy?

[Unibot]

Unibot's GA Diplomat, Zhildigo, a lovable tribal barbarian stood up to ask a question - as his armor was suffocating him while sitting down.

"You... ambassa-dors, talk about 'Hippocratic oaths'. What do you mean? Unibot's surgeons offer a range of services including unnecessary amputation and primal therapy, which appear to do the job just fine. Since when do they need these 'oaths' to be called doctors. All you need is a saw, and a liking to blood, in my country."

[Leelan]

What about the (however small) chance of an unexpected recovery?