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[PASSED] Safeguarding Nuclear Materials

Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:37 pm

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The World Assembly,

Understanding that there are more than six times more non-WA nations than member nations,

Noting that those nations do not have limits on their nuclear arsenals, use conditions, or any restrictions on nuclear arms whatsoever, thereby putting member nations at a considerable military disadvantage against their nearly-unlimited power,

Observing that radical elements of the Assembly could ban the manufacture of nuclear weapons after the repeal of 391 GA 'Securing Nuclear Materials from Dastardly Menaces' and 351 GA 'Nuclear Material Safeguards', meaning that a single legislative mistake could destroy us, and

Giving credence to the necessity of clause 5, as non-inclusion would lead to nuclear materials being unprotected in state collapse, creating a proliferation crisis, in which the purveyors of loose nukes must not become nuclear powers, hereby:

  1. Affirms the right of member nations to possess nuclear weapons and to use them in the case that they are attacked by hostile forces;

  2. Maintains the right of member nations to manufacture and trade nuclear weapons or reactors, to possess the materials required in such manufacture, and to acquire the materials required in such manufacture;

  3. Maintains the right of member nations to have knowledge of the manufacture and trade of nuclear weapons or reactors, to possess such knowledge, and to acquire such knowledge;

  4. Mandates that member nations take all practical actions to stop unauthorised release of the materials or disclosure of the knowledge spoken of in the above two clauses; and

  5. Directs, should no future legislation require otherwise, the Nuclear Energy Safety Commission to ensure that nuclear armaments, materials, and knowledge are secured from weaponisation by providing material assistance and phase-out assistance to nations unable to defend their own nuclear knowledge and technology.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:44 pm

House of Cards! House of Cards!

    I choose now to live as a House of Cards disbeliever. The House of Cards rule exists to stop operative clauses from being unclear or lose their functioning due to repeal of a dependent resolution. Its use outside that scope is unfounded and irrational. Furthermore, even if you don't believe that, the use of references in this resolution's preamble is phrased so to couch such references as matters of historical fact. Historical facts cannot be changed by the repeal of resolutions. Damnatio memoriae are not passed upon resolutions when they are repealed. Moreover, the Assembly permits the use of references of this kind in repeals. To believe otherwise requires the rejection of the operation of memory and an astonishing doublethink.

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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:21 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote: -condemning-

You've raised a fascinating question of GA/SC interpretation here which I'm sure will cause headaches.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:24 pm

Changing the title does not change my opinion on this. Still against.
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Postby Neo Danzig » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:45 pm

While you do address the vagueness of the proposal, you've done nothing to change it, only pointing out hypocrisy, which does not invalidate the argument. Secondly, this whole proposal is somewhat redundant due to GA #10. Against.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:10 pm

You are doing the same thing and expecting different results, IA. Not only is this behavior ridiculous, it is also very irritating. Please, take a hint and stop submitting the same resolution over and over again. I don't want to have to write another repeal on this.
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Postby Bakhton » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:55 pm

Chastising voting members for repealing a past version of this proposal on the basis of vagueness and then immediately voting down repeal of a different resolution, and in so doing, repudiating the basis upon which that past version was repealed (especially true as that different resolution uses the exact same standard as the past version of this proposal),


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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:34 am

Wallenburg wrote:You are doing the same thing and expecting different results, IA. Not only is this behavior ridiculous, it is also very irritating. Please, take a hint and stop submitting the same resolution over and over again. I don't want to have to write another repeal on this.

Agreed. This Proposal in its (many) previous lives has been debated to death, reached quorum, approved, and then repealed. There is something very distasteful about going for a shotgun effect, submitting the same Proposal over and over again in hope of the slim chance that it will not get repealed. Against before, and against now.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:17 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:Changing the title does not change my opinion on this. Still against.

You haven't read it then.



Secondarily, there are very clear internal contradictions in the arguments presented over time. The first was born of an actual belief in nuclear non-proliferation. The current generation of the arguments doubles back on itself without creating any sense distinction nor understanding the policy elements upon which the legislation is built. Each part of the policy element is there for good reason, it's non-inclusion would lead to the policy not functioning as a whole.

There is yet also the further question. If it is the case that this proposal is opposed on ideological grounds, then those grounds don't actually make any sense, from any angle. If one wishes that legislation be passed on the topic of nuclear materials and their security, then one ought also consider the current state where there is no legislation of any kind on the topic, and therefore, no regulatory capacity whatsoever.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:25 pm

"Opposed. Stupid name. Content seems reasonable enough."

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:45 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Opposed. Stupid name. Content seems reasonable enough."

NORTH: 'Safeguarding Nuclear Materials' is, almost certainly, acceptable, perchance?
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:03 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Opposed. Stupid name. Content seems reasonable enough."

NORTH: 'Safeguarding Nuclear Materials' is, almost certainly, acceptable.

Fairburn: Trust you to take advantage of the fact that nobody mentioned the original title by modifying the title and thereby making Ambassador Bell look like an idiot. Opposed.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:14 pm

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Imperium Anglorum wrote:NORTH: 'Safeguarding Nuclear Materials' is, almost certainly, acceptable.

Fairburn: Trust you to take advantage of the fact that nobody mentioned the original title by modifying the title and thereby making Ambassador Bell look like an idiot. Opposed.

NORTH: Wow. That's your response? I hope that 'Securing Nuclear Materials from Rascally Rascals' is acceptable, or is your delegation's attempt to make legislation funny just some kind of absurd Hundred Flowers Campaign? Or, does literally everything have to be qualified with eighteen interpretive statements now? I hope Fairburn's interpretative abilities aren't so categorically bad that his inane interpretation of how CoCR doesn't do anything is some kind of new normal.

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Imperium Anglorum wrote:
States of Glory WA Office wrote:Fairburn: Trust you to take advantage of the fact that nobody mentioned the original title by modifying the title and thereby making Ambassador Bell look like an idiot. Opposed.

NORTH: Wow. That's your response?

Fairburn: No, my response is to jump up and down with a banana peel on my head. Yes, of course that's my response! What did you think it was?

Imperium Anglorum wrote:I hope that 'Securing Nuclear Materials from Rascally Rascals' is acceptable, or is your delegation's attempt to make legislation funny just some kind of absurd Hundred Flowers Campaign?

Fairburn: I never complained about the original title, nor did I have a problem with it. I complained about, and have a problem with, your dishonest smear tactics. There is a clear difference.

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Or, does literally everything have to be qualified with eighteen interpretive statements now? I hope Fairburn's interpretative abilities aren't so categorically bad that his inane interpretation of how CoCR doesn't do anything is some kind of new normal.

OOC: Firstly, you of all people should know not to conflate IC comments with OOC comments. Secondly, show me one time where I stated that CoCR did nothing.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:41 am

Two days.

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:51 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Chastising voting members for repealing a past version of this proposal on the basis of vagueness and then immediately voting down repeal of a different resolution, and in so doing, necessarily repudiating the basis upon which that past version was repealed (something especially true as that different resolution uses the exact same standard as the past version of this proposal),

Annoyed by the fact that if the clause mandating that the World Assembly provide assistance to member nations were not included, that would also be a flaw opponents of this resolution would use for repeal, as non-inclusion would lead to nuclear materials being unprotected in state collapse, hereby:


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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:15 pm

Edited, those sections of the preamble have lost their relevance anyway.

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Imperium Anglorum wrote:Believing that the clause 5 mandating that the World Assembly provide assistance to member nations is necessary, as non-inclusion would lead to nuclear materials being unprotected in state collapse, creating something of a proliferation crisis, hereby:


"Our suggestions. The clause immediately preceding - the one that starts 'Observing...' - is just a monstrosity of run-on sentencing. I imagine this'll be more popular as something besides an imposing brick wall of text.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:03 am

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:imposing brick wall of text.

align = justify !



Anyway, always open for comment. Probable submission after we get through the repeal.

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Postby Bruke » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:20 am

The resolution seems alright to me, balances the need for national security and clean energy with stopping proliferation. I'll probably support it. Excellent work.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Oh noes! This has been submitted! Calling for legality challenges!

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Postby Slavonia and Srijem » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:49 pm

I'm against this, world should totally get rid of WMD's.

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