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[PASSED] Repeal "Liberate Eternal Scholars"

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[PASSED] Repeal "Liberate Eternal Scholars"

Postby Louisistan » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:33 am

Link to the original resolution: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7503&start=200#p29648981

Repeal "Liberate Eternal Scholars"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal | Resolution: SC #203 | Proposed by: <Insert WA nation here>


ACKNOWLEDGING that the Liberation of Eternal Scholars was necessary at the time of its passing,

ASSERTING that SC #203 was successful in preventing the occupying Nazi forces from making Eternal Scholars their trophy,

NOTING however, that the native population of Eternal Scholars has decided to relocate to a more secure region, The Eternal Scholars,

ACKNOWLEDGING the wish of the native population to preserve their history in Eternal Scholars,

RESOLVING to enable the native population of Eternal Scholars to preserve their legacy by protecting the region through border control measures,

THE WA SECURITY COUNCIL

hereby REPEALS SC #203 "Liberate Eternal Scholars".


The liberation of Eternal Scholars was passed to prevent Nazi forces from locking down the region and has accomplished that goal as intended. But after having been subjected to invasion after invasion, the natives (or those who remain of the former natives) have chosen to move to a new region with an active founder.The original region Eternal Scholars was founded by a group of people who knew each other in real life. It is understandable that they want to preserve their history and legacy by locking down the original region.
I propose to enable them to do just that by repealing the liberation that's currently in place on Eternal Scholars.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:44 am

Ticks all the boxes for me, nicely written repeal. I assume you'll get a native member of ES to post their support here?
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Postby Louisistan » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:57 am

Yes, such a statement of support is forthcoming and the proposal will not be submitted before that.
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:28 am

I still feel like that liberations in general, should not be repealed, when they're this kind of thing. Ya break it, ya bought it, and the same principle applies here. They could have moved, they decided to liberate instead. Thus, they gotta deal with it.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:57 am

I'm in support, just as long as we make sure the region doesn't get raided again. :p
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Postby Louisistan » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:54 am

Cerian Quilor wrote:I still feel like that liberations in general, should not be repealed, when they're this kind of thing. Ya break it, ya bought it, and the same principle applies here. They could have moved, they decided to liberate instead. Thus, they gotta deal with it.

I'm not entirely sure what it is you're saying. They should've just left the region to be refounded and defaced by Nazis instead of saving what has been their in-game home for years?

And now that there is an SC Liberation badge on the region, they have to stick around and get invaded again and again?

Boy, those sound like two excellent choice, can't imagine why they would want it any other way.

Kaboomlandia wrote:I'm in support, just as long as we make sure the region doesn't get raided again. :p

That is why a lockdown is desired.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:04 am

Louisistan wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:I'm in support, just as long as we make sure the region doesn't get raided again. :p

That is why a lockdown is desired.


No, I mean, I'm in support as long as the delegate has enough endorsements to ensure it doesn't get raided midway through the vote again.
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Postby Sygian II » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:06 am

Good luck. Feel free to use my original draft for further reference, if you feel like adding anything else there. :)
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Postby Altos » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:12 am

Altos, as the most senior remaining representative of Eternal Scholars, agrees with the proposed plan of action.

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Postby Louisistan » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:50 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Louisistan wrote:That is why a lockdown is desired.


No, I mean, I'm in support as long as the delegate has enough endorsements to ensure it doesn't get raided midway through the vote again.

Oh, I see.

It's looking good right now. Of course I don't know what raiders are up to, but defenders are having an eye on the region to ensure things go smoothly this time around.
Given that the feedback thus far has been predominantly positive and Altos has spoken up on behalf of the natives, I'm going to submit this.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:11 am

I don't understand. You say that the natives are moving to The Eternal Scholars, but absolutely nobody has moved there yet.
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Postby Pauly » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:35 am

Wallenburg wrote:I don't understand. You say that the natives are moving to The Eternal Scholars, but absolutely nobody has moved there yet.


Yet being the key word here. As long as the old region isn't secured. Natives are helping to secure it. Once the region can be locked we will move.

The constant raiding hasn't done the region well and a lot of natives have stopped playing, so the remaining group of natives is rather small.

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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:06 pm

Pauly wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:I don't understand. You say that the natives are moving to The Eternal Scholars, but absolutely nobody has moved there yet.


Yet being the key word here. As long as the old region isn't secured. Natives are helping to secure it. Once the region can be locked we will move.

The constant raiding hasn't done the region well and a lot of natives have stopped playing, so the remaining group of natives is rather small.

Ah, I understand. Approved and marked for our support at vote.
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Postby Louisistan » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:20 am

Wow, this went rather smoothly, even though there was a glaring mistake in the TG campaign (of course Eternal Scholars was invaded, not Nazi Europa :rofl: ).

My thanks to all the Delegates who approved this. Now to wait until it hits the floor.
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Postby Consular » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:45 am

Ivo isn't about so it should be easy sailing.

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Postby Goto Mototsugu » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:15 pm

Consular wrote:-snip-

Now, you just sent out a challenge to raiders.

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Postby Sygian II » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:51 pm

I would be disappointed in any raider organization that claims sloppy seconds (or thirds) on this region. Just let the repeal go through. :P
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Postby Kresshland » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:51 pm

what about having defenders stationed there as peacekeepers to ensure that raiders cant ruin the repeal?

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Postby Sygian II » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:14 pm

Kresshland wrote:what about having defenders stationed there as peacekeepers to ensure that raiders cant ruin the repeal?

That is more than likely what will happen. Defenders usually swoop in right before it updates.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:02 pm

Kresshland wrote:what about having defenders stationed there as peacekeepers to ensure that raiders cant ruin the repeal?

Have you seen the delegate by chance? :P
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Postby Sygian II » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:27 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Kresshland wrote:what about having defenders stationed there as peacekeepers to ensure that raiders cant ruin the repeal?

Have you seen the delegate by chance? :P

Don't underestimate the power that a raider will utilize to get free publicity. :P
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Postby Moral States » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:10 am

What is more Conservative Thing to do?
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Postby Maljaratas » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:20 am

It is now at vote, and Big Bad Badger and Trinnien have provided nearly 900 votes combined.
I voted FOR.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:00 am

Moral States wrote:What is more Conservative Thing to do?

You could always read the resolution and form your own opinion on it that way.
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:08 am

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Tinhampton has not approved this proposal. In addition, Delegate-Ambassador Smith (in lieu of any resolutions passed by The Other Chamber of the World Assembly, especially the one hundred and twenty-second one) has used his common sense to analyse this resolution. He has determined that Tinhampton - in their status as a World Assembly Delegate with 21 votes as of the time of writing - should vote AGAINST "Repeal "Liberate Eternal Scholars"". These were the reasons that D-A Smith gave:
Eternal Scholars - the class region that wasn't - has experienced incredible resilience to a number of invasions as of late. In its two-year history, it has survived invasions from The Invaders, Lone Wolves United, The Black Hawks, DEN, and Nazi Europa, and could well fall under more yet - a sure sign that the Eternal Scholars deserve their liberation, in spite of my usual stance against them. After all, a raider could jack the delegacy from the current defender leadership at any time. In addition, the switch-over to The Eternal Scholars has not started.

Tinhampton is voting against this resolution, and also strongly urges other members of the Federation's Assembly of Nations to vote against it. However, this opinion is not binding, and Tinhampton cannot and will not throw you into the flames of the Rejected Realms for failing to vote the same way as them.
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