by Canton Empire » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:09 am
by Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:54 am
Canton Empire wrote:Condemn Elite Region of Global Command.
The World Assembly Security Council,
Noting the aggressive nature of Elite Region of Global Command,
Asserting that this aggressive nature is used for hatred and bigotry,
Observing that Elite Region of Global Command calls Islam "frankenstein",
Further observing that Elite Region of Global Command calls for the "systematic annihilation" of Communists and Muslim bases,
Further noting that Elite Region of Global Command plotted and carried out a sleeper mission in the peaceful Muslim region of Islamya,
Observing that the same was done, not once, but twice to The Arab League simply because the region possessed and "Anti Fascist" tag,
Noting, that Elite Region of Global Command intercepted a native refound attempt in The Union,
Disgusted that Elite Region of Global Command would call Muslims "muzzies",
Horrified that the World Factbook Entry of Elite Region of Global Command reads "Glory to Nazism",
Resolved that these actions will face an unequivocal response from the Security Council,
Hereby Condemns Elite Region of Global Command
NOTE: I know that this is probably nowhere near being submission good, so don't get all salty if you don't like it please.
Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.
RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.
Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..
by Sygian II » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:17 am
Benevolent Thomas wrote:The Black Hawks continue to be the largest and most successful invader organization in NationStates
by Canton Empire » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:04 am
Sygian II wrote:Aside from what BBD said, it's also doesn't have very good content. The only reason you're condemning them is because they raided a region and they have a thing against anti-fascists and Muslims. What is it these days with people disgracing the condemnation and commendation values of the SC? These guys have worked with Nazi Europa, they're both obviously "Nazis", and giving them or their accomplices any more publicity than they are already get from CAIN is a terrible idea. I currently reside in The Black Hawks, a raider region that is proudly condemned by the Security Council for raiding, and these proposals are the thing that ruin that value.
No support.
by Brunhizzle » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:49 am
Canton Empire wrote:Sygian II wrote:Aside from what BBD said, it's also doesn't have very good content. The only reason you're condemning them is because they raided a region and they have a thing against anti-fascists and Muslims. What is it these days with people disgracing the condemnation and commendation values of the SC? These guys have worked with Nazi Europa, they're both obviously "Nazis", and giving them or their accomplices any more publicity than they are already get from CAIN is a terrible idea. I currently reside in The Black Hawks, a raider region that is proudly condemned by the Security Council for raiding, and these proposals are the thing that ruin that value.
No support.
The point in creating the commendation/condemnation system is to create awareness of a region that does bad things. If you take pride in a condemnation, then the entire system should be scrapped because the condemnation is pointless.
anyways, that's just my opinion.
by Canton Empire » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:53 am
Brunhizzle wrote:Canton Empire wrote:The point in creating the commendation/condemnation system is to create awareness of a region that does bad things. If you take pride in a condemnation, then the entire system should be scrapped because the condemnation is pointless.
anyways, that's just my opinion.
Then the entire system should be scrapped because it is pointless.
by Mallorea and Riva » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:15 pm
by Canton Empire » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:48 am
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Canton Empire wrote:Condemn Elite Region of Global Command.
The World Assembly Security Council,
Noting the aggressive nature of Elite Region of Global Command,
Asserting that this aggressive nature is used for hatred and bigotry,
Observing that Elite Region of Global Command calls Islam "frankenstein",
Further observing that Elite Region of Global Command calls for the "systematic annihilation" of Communists and Muslim bases,
Further noting that Elite Region of Global Command plotted and carried out a sleeper mission in the peaceful Muslim region of Islamya,
Observing that the same was done, not once, but twice to The Arab League simply because the region possessed and "Anti Fascist" tag,
Noting, that Elite Region of Global Command intercepted a native refound attempt in The Union,
Disgusted that Elite Region of Global Command would call Muslims "muzzies",
Horrified that the World Factbook Entry of Elite Region of Global Command reads "Glory to Nazism",
Resolved that these actions will face an unequivocal response from the Security Council,
Hereby Condemns Elite Region of Global Command
NOTE: I know that this is probably nowhere near being submission good, so don't get all salty if you don't like it please.
The two highlighted sections may not be R2(c) compliant. If these are thought to be breaches of NS rules and haven't been reported, then they fail R2(c) as I understand it.
by Canton Empire » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:13 am
by LollerLand » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:51 am
Made some changes. The first one is just a small typo. The second one is just to clarify why "Glory to Nazism" is bad..Canton Empire wrote:Condemn Elite Region of Global Command.
The World Assembly Security Council,
Noting the aggressive nature of Elite Region of Global Command,
Asserting that this aggressive nature is used for hatred and bigotry,
Observing that Elite Region of Global Command calls Islam "frankenstein",
Further observing that Elite Region of Global Command calls for the "systematic annihilation" of Communists and Muslim bases,
Further noting that Elite Region of Global Command plotted and carried out a sleeper mission in the peaceful Muslim region of Islamya,
Observing that the same was done, not once, but twice to The Arab League simply because the region possessed an "Anti Fascist" tag,
Noting, that Elite Region of Global Command intercepted a native refound attempt in The Union,
Disgusted that Elite Region of Global Command would call Muslims "muzzies",
Recognizing Nazism as an ideology that promotes racist Nationalism,
Horrified that the World Factbook Entry of Elite Region of Global Command reads "Glory to Nazism",
Resolved that these actions will face an unequivocal response from the Security Council,
Hereby Condemns Elite Region of Global Command
by Canton Empire » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:36 am
LollerLand wrote:Made some changes. The first one is just a small typo. The second one is just to clarify why "Glory to Nazism" is bad..Canton Empire wrote:Condemn Elite Region of Global Command.
The World Assembly Security Council,
Noting the aggressive nature of Elite Region of Global Command,
Asserting that this aggressive nature is used for hatred and bigotry,
Observing that Elite Region of Global Command calls Islam "frankenstein",
Further observing that Elite Region of Global Command calls for the "systematic annihilation" of Communists and Muslim bases,
Further noting that Elite Region of Global Command plotted and carried out a sleeper mission in the peaceful Muslim region of Islamya,
Added
Observing that the same was done, not once, but twice to The Arab League simply because the region possessed an "Anti Fascist" tag,
Noting, that Elite Region of Global Command intercepted a native refound attempt in The Union,
Disgusted that Elite Region of Global Command would call Muslims "muzzies",
Recognizing Nazism as an ideology that promotes racist Nationalism,
Horrified that the World Factbook Entry of Elite Region of Global Command reads "Glory to Nazism",
Resolved that these actions will face an unequivocal response from the Security Council,
Hereby Condemns Elite Region of Global Command
(The changes are highlighted in red obviously)
by Canton Empire » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:46 am
by Sygian II » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:13 am
Canton Empire wrote:If there are no more proposed edits, I will submit this tonight.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:The Black Hawks continue to be the largest and most successful invader organization in NationStates
by Flanderlion » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:50 pm
by Sygian II » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:56 pm
Flanderlion wrote:Agree on not giving publicity, but I think we've kind of lost the hope of that due to CAIN. It'll give them a recruitment boost but most will CTE in a month or two anyway. The lasting effect of condemning regions like this, is condemnations aren't so much badges of honour for other regions.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:The Black Hawks continue to be the largest and most successful invader organization in NationStates
by Flanderlion » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:22 pm
Sygian II wrote:Flanderlion wrote:Agree on not giving publicity, but I think we've kind of lost the hope of that due to CAIN. It'll give them a recruitment boost but most will CTE in a month or two anyway. The lasting effect of condemning regions like this, is condemnations aren't so much badges of honour for other regions.
I thought I, and others, have explained this before. But I see how it could be confusing.
Raiders (individual nations or regions, just raiders regardless) being condemned is condemning their actions, and if your intentions are to raid and destroy regions, being publicly recognized as "condemned" is indeed a proud badge to wear.
by Canton Empire » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:59 pm
Sygian II wrote:Canton Empire wrote:If there are no more proposed edits, I will submit this tonight.
Not that I don't agree with the points made in the proposal, but I don't think that condemning them and giving them more attention than what CAIN is giving them, and literally awarding them what they would consider a "badge of honor" is the best idea.
It's a decent proposal, but there are other regions out there that actually deserve a condemnation. I'd be willing to help you write one.
Flanderlion wrote:Sygian II wrote:I thought I, and others, have explained this before. But I see how it could be confusing.
Raiders (individual nations or regions, just raiders regardless) being condemned is condemning their actions, and if your intentions are to raid and destroy regions, being publicly recognized as "condemned" is indeed a proud badge to wear.
Currently that is. But when you're in the books with the esteemed company of Nazis, Islamic State themed regions, other left wing extremist regions (probably further left than the RL norm because NS is fairly left leaning), man/women hating regions, incest supporters and the like then it's not really as much of a badge of honour. It was to us when we got condemned because we were in the books with raiding greats, but it's kinda annoying having to explain to people about it (thanks Canton for the repeal of it).
by Canton Empire » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:54 pm
by The Stalker » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:05 pm
by Canton Empire » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:10 pm
The Stalker wrote:Against, Nazis should be ignored not brought into the spotlight. Condemnations should be reserved for more classy villains and proper raiders.
by The Stalker » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:23 pm
by Canton Empire » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:29 pm
by Sygian II » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:45 pm
Flanderlion wrote:Currently that is. But when you're in the books with the esteemed company of Nazis, Islamic State themed regions, other left wing extremist regions (probably further left than the RL norm because NS is fairly left leaning), man/women hating regions, incest supporters and the like then it's not really as much of a badge of honour. It was to us when we got condemned because we were in the books with raiding greats, but it's kinda annoying having to explain to people about it (thanks Canton for the repeal of it).
Benevolent Thomas wrote:The Black Hawks continue to be the largest and most successful invader organization in NationStates
by Flanderlion » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:30 pm
Sygian II wrote:Flanderlion wrote:Currently that is. But when you're in the books with the esteemed company of Nazis, Islamic State themed regions, other left wing extremist regions (probably further left than the RL norm because NS is fairly left leaning), man/women hating regions, incest supporters and the like then it's not really as much of a badge of honour. It was to us when we got condemned because we were in the books with raiding greats, but it's kinda annoying having to explain to people about it (thanks Canton for the repeal of it).
Not sure where you're getting those observations. these are the only regions that are condemned by the SC. You shouldn't be putting the regions you mentioned in the spotlight by condemning them anyway. Look at it this way:
1. If you're a raider/invader/imperialist/dictatorship/etc, your condemnation is probably worn as a badge of honor. See: The Black Hawks, The Black Riders, DEN, etc are all examples of raider regions that were condemned and proud of it. The condemnations just pointed out the 'terrible' things that they did, regions they raided, etc. It's like an "Achievement Unlocked" for them.
2. For people that don't follow into the categories that I mentioned above, a condemnation may be worn as a reminder of disgrace or something. But not often.
3. Nazis, Islamic State themed regions, everything else you mentioned, etc should not be given any spotlight in the SC with a condemnation/commendation/liberation or whatever. NONE.
by The Stalker » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:14 pm
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