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Goto Mototsugu
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Postby Goto Mototsugu » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:05 pm

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
Goto Mototsugu wrote:Really? Because I'm pretty sure it's the opinion that most of the people who have read this thread and have any knowledge whatsoever of GP are thinking.


Because I tried to get Liberate Antalia to pass and tried to warn against Liberate The Arab League, both of which significantly damaged my already shredded reputation.

Let's move on from your reputation. It's so destroyed that it's irrelevant now.

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Postby Benjabobaria » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:20 pm

"Mortified by Femdom Empire's collaboration with Nazi regions to defend against The CAIN through suspicious methods in a recent conflict;"
Awww, you mad? Dang, we were so suspicious weren't we.

"Observing that Femdom Empire has enforced border control and had the assistance of multiple fascist, especially Nazi, regions during the aforementioned conflict;"
Well, of course we need to enforce border control or we'll be destroyed. We'd like to exist, thank you very much. Eh, there's not that many Nazis in NS, the CAIN just labels everyone that won't support them as Nazi. Even if we did work with Nazis who cares? We just wanted to save ourselves from destruction.

"Seeing that most of these fascist and Nazi regions are connected to Nazi Europa, which has already almost destroyed The Arab League;"
Again, trashing our allies. How is this relevant?

"Noting that most of these regions are all Authoritarian and connected with Nazism;"
And we deserve to be destroyed why? This is a satirical nation simulator game, being evil is fun.

"Acknowledging the presence of military forces who seek to eradicate Authoritarianism and Nazism;
Aware that these forces may only accomplish their goal if the border controls are struck down;"
Dang at least you're honest. I really do hate these "liberation" resolutions that benefit invaders, no matter what region has a planned invasion... No natives support this. We enjoy our region how it is, and don't need any outsiders to destroy us.

You CAIN scumbags are adorable, losing a battle out of sheer patheticness and having to cry to the SC. We fought once and will fight again if necessary... Besides nobody in their right mind will approve this invasion resolution.
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Postby The Second Moon Rising » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:24 pm

Benjabobaria wrote:"Mortified by Femdom Empire's collaboration with Nazi regions to defend against The CAIN through suspicious methods in a recent conflict;"
Awww, you mad? Dang, we were so suspicious weren't we.

"Observing that Femdom Empire has enforced border control and had the assistance of multiple fascist, especially Nazi, regions during the aforementioned conflict;"
Well, of course we need to enforce border control or we'll be destroyed. We'd like to exist, thank you very much. Eh, there's not that many Nazis in NS, the CAIN just labels everyone that won't support them as Nazi. Even if we did work with Nazis who cares? We just wanted to save ourselves from destruction.

"Seeing that most of these fascist and Nazi regions are connected to Nazi Europa, which has already almost destroyed The Arab League;"
Again, trashing our allies. How is this relevant?

"Noting that most of these regions are all Authoritarian and connected with Nazism;"
And we deserve to be destroyed why? This is a satirical nation simulator game, being evil is fun.

"Acknowledging the presence of military forces who seek to eradicate Authoritarianism and Nazism;
Aware that these forces may only accomplish their goal if the border controls are struck down;"
Dang at least you're honest. I really do hate these "liberation" resolutions that benefit invaders, no matter what region has a planned invasion... No natives support this. We enjoy our region how it is, and don't need any outsiders to destroy us.

You CAIN scumbags are adorable, losing a battle out of sheer patheticness and having to cry to the SC. We fought once and will fight again if necessary... Besides nobody in their right mind will approve this invasion resolution.


All righty, that's all I needed. The natives do NOT want to be liberated. Voting against if this somehow gets to quorum.
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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:30 pm

Benjabobaria wrote:"Mortified by Femdom Empire's collaboration with Nazi regions to defend against The CAIN through suspicious methods in a recent conflict;"
Awww, you mad? Dang, we were so suspicious weren't we.

"Observing that Femdom Empire has enforced border control and had the assistance of multiple fascist, especially Nazi, regions during the aforementioned conflict;"
Well, of course we need to enforce border control or we'll be destroyed. We'd like to exist, thank you very much. Eh, there's not that many Nazis in NS, the CAIN just labels everyone that won't support them as Nazi. Even if we did work with Nazis who cares? We just wanted to save ourselves from destruction.

"Seeing that most of these fascist and Nazi regions are connected to Nazi Europa, which has already almost destroyed The Arab League;"
Again, trashing our allies. How is this relevant?

"Noting that most of these regions are all Authoritarian and connected with Nazism;"
And we deserve to be destroyed why? This is a satirical nation simulator game, being evil is fun.

"Acknowledging the presence of military forces who seek to eradicate Authoritarianism and Nazism;
Aware that these forces may only accomplish their goal if the border controls are struck down;"
Dang at least you're honest. I really do hate these "liberation" resolutions that benefit invaders, no matter what region has a planned invasion... No natives support this. We enjoy our region how it is, and don't need any outsiders to destroy us.

You CAIN scumbags are adorable, losing a battle out of sheer patheticness and having to cry to the SC. We fought once and will fight again if necessary... Besides nobody in their right mind will approve this invasion resolution.


Sadly, Femdom Empire has a reputation for allying with the most unmoral and simply hate-founded group ever: the Nazis. We must erase this tolerance for Nazis, as though political freedom is indeed important, advocating for the existence of one "supreme" race with the genocide of all "inferior" individuals shouldn't be something that Feminists should ally with.

There are much better things for Feminists to ally with than Nazis.

This is an offensive liberation against Femdom Empire and Nazism.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:31 pm

Aimdar, does CAIN even want this?
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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:35 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:Aimdar, does CAIN even want this?


What do you think?

They've been "discussing" about this for a very long time, but at this point, the population of Femdom Empire is approaching the high 20s; by the time they finish "discussing" this, and all of those SC Proposals go through, Femdom Empire will have already be refounded.

This is technically a placeholder; if CAIN then decides they want to leave the Empire alone, I'll pull this immediately. However, I must say we are running out of time. And fast.
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:48 pm

I'm really torn, Because on the one hand, I hate the Femdom Empire for some crap that happened a like four years ago, but on the other hand, this helps CAIN and I'd rather not support either this draft or this author.

Probably for, mostly for the shits and giggles
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Postby The Stalker » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:49 pm

Hmm I'd be surprised if CAIN wanted this. Generally people don't support offensive liberations. Only one I think ever passed was Liberate Nazi Europe, which was followed by many repeal attempts and debates before eventually being repealed.

I don't really care for Femdom Empire, but only people likely voting for this would be for the lulz.

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:53 pm

CAIN wants to be able to target FE. They need targets to remain viable.
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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:15 pm

Kanuadu wrote:These are some mighty big words coming from a Nazi collabarator. :rofl:


I have been removed as a Nazi collaborator weeks before.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:25 pm

The Stalker wrote:Hmm I'd be surprised if CAIN wanted this. Generally people don't support offensive liberations. Only one I think ever passed was Liberate Nazi Europe, which was followed by many repeal attempts and debates before eventually being repealed.


There was also the NSIA, but I think that's about it.
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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:36 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
The Stalker wrote:Hmm I'd be surprised if CAIN wanted this. Generally people don't support offensive liberations. Only one I think ever passed was Liberate Nazi Europe, which was followed by many repeal attempts and debates before eventually being repealed.


There was also the NSIA, but I think that's about it.


Just to clear up confusion:

Liberate Femdom Empire is not against Feminism, but it is against Goddess Jadny, an administrator of Femdom Empire, and her collaboration with Nazi regions.

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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:24 pm

Kanuadu wrote:
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
I have been removed as a Nazi collaborator weeks before.

By CAIN? Big deal. You actually collaborated with Nazi's in the past. Unless the whole Dank memes scandal was just a figment of everyones imagination?


I do not deny and will not deny that I've worked with Nazis in the past. However, what came out of working with them was total baloney and Dank Memes is not the center of an entire scandal.

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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:39 pm

Kanuadu wrote:
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
I do not deny and will not deny that I've worked with Nazis in the past. However, what came out of working with them was total baloney and Dank Memes is not the center of an entire scandal.

What would you call it? You were told exactly what would happnen, went ahead and did it, and then complained and tried to cover up what happened. Scandal.


Well, I haven't complained and tried to cover up what happened; in fact, I explicitly stated what I did wrong in the Security Council Resolution #205.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:53 pm

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
Kanuadu wrote:What would you call it? You were told exactly what would happnen, went ahead and did it, and then complained and tried to cover up what happened. Scandal.


Well, I haven't complained and tried to cover up what happened; in fact, I explicitly stated what I did wrong in the Security Council Resolution #205.

But you downplayed it to the extent that what actually went down was way worse than described.
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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:01 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
Well, I haven't complained and tried to cover up what happened; in fact, I explicitly stated what I did wrong in the Security Council Resolution #205.

But you downplayed it to the extent that what actually went down was way worse than described.


I did publicly apologize for it in the Occupation of Dank Memes thread, though.

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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:01 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
Well, I haven't complained and tried to cover up what happened; in fact, I explicitly stated what I did wrong in the Security Council Resolution #205.

But you downplayed it to the extent that what actually went down was way worse than described.


I did publicly apologize for it in the Occupation of Dank Memes thread, though.

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Postby Bedetopia » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:52 am

Straight from the CAIN chat:

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You've already lost a massive 520 votes. The whole Femdom war is causing unrest in CAIN, they'd rather leave it alone.
You should file a GHR and remove that principle-breaking proposal before your reputation is tarnished permanently.
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Postby Benjabobaria » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:09 am

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:The World Assembly is moralistic and may be used for offensive Liberations.

Offensive liberations are sinister, if the World Assembly is moralistic it will ignore this resolution/vote against it.

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:I do not deny and will not deny that I've worked with Nazis in the past. However, what came out of working with them was total baloney and Dank Memes is not the center of an entire scandal.

Well it's good that you're reputation is too bad for this to be passed. The CAIN views you with suspicious and their enemies view you as weak for joining them.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:53 am

Bedetopia wrote:Straight from the CAIN chat:

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You've already lost a massive 520 votes. The whole Femdom war is causing unrest in CAIN, they'd rather leave it alone.
You should file a GHR and remove that principle-breaking proposal before your reputation is tarnished permanently.

Well his reputation was tarnished permanently some time ago, hence BBB's complete and utter refusal to support anything authored by him. I mean you can spin it (and probably will) as unrest in CAIN, whereas in reality it's the author that's the problem.
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Postby Bedetopia » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:06 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Bedetopia wrote:Straight from the CAIN chat:

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You've already lost a massive 520 votes. The whole Femdom war is causing unrest in CAIN, they'd rather leave it alone.
You should file a GHR and remove that principle-breaking proposal before your reputation is tarnished permanently.

Well his reputation was tarnished permanently some time ago, hence BBB's complete and utter refusal to support anything authored by him. I mean you can spin it (and probably will) as unrest in CAIN, whereas in reality it's the author that's the problem.


I'm just going with what Badger said.

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Postby Kitzerland » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:52 am

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:I agree with this. I was in on this op and would support a liberation, but not this liberation proposal.


Believing that I submit proposals based on a want to gain badges and gaining attention is pitiful.

Not if its true. Either you just want a badge or you're so unbelievably clueless about the Security Council that you actually think you're trying to do something helpful.
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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:08 am

Kitzerland wrote:
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
Believing that I submit proposals based on a want to gain badges and gaining attention is pitiful.

Not if its true. Either you just want a badge or you're so unbelievably clueless about the Security Council that you actually think you're trying to do something helpful.


I shall await a final statement from Brunhizzle regarding this Liberation before taking any action.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:42 am

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
Kitzerland wrote:Not if its true. Either you just want a badge or you're so unbelievably clueless about the Security Council that you actually think you're trying to do something helpful.


I shall await a final statement from Brunhizzle regarding this Liberation before taking any action.

You really are completely up yourself aren't you. Why would Brunhizzle make a statement regarding your liberation proposal?
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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:03 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
I shall await a final statement from Brunhizzle regarding this Liberation before taking any action.

You really are completely up yourself aren't you. Why would Brunhizzle make a statement regarding your liberation proposal?


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