[DEFEATED] Condemn Anarchestan

[Sedgistan]

Mod Edit: proposal text:

Condemn Anarchestan

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Anarchestan

Proposed by: Patrimonium Petri

The Security Council of the World Assembly,

Noting the unjust takeover, forcible closure of borders, and imposition of martial law upon The Arab League perpetrated by The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan as outlined in the Security Council resolution Liberate The Arab League (SCR 213),

Distraught at the undiplomatic and barbarous means used by The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan in holding on to their ill-gotten power, especially in their dealings with well-meaning nations and allies of The Arab League, some examples of which include Hatay and Khorason,

Incensed at The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan's attempt to destroy The Arab League from the inside, partially by denying the unjustly exiled World Assembly delegate Al-Maghrebi their rightful rank and authority, and also by their aforementioned imposition of martial law and other repressive measures,

Convinced that the actions of The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan are completely incompatible with justice, democracy, morality/ethics, and the rule of law,

Commending the measures already in place to destroy The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan's illegitimate rule over The Arab League and return the legitimate, democratic regime to power there,

Hereby condemns The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan.

how can I contribute to getting more support for this proposal:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1484283102

there are only 13 hours left.

[LollerLand]

Set up a telegram campaign.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

how can I contribute to getting more support for this proposal:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1484283102

there are only 13 hours left.

In terms of the game at large Anarchestan is pretty small beer. No support for your condemnation.

[The Arab League Congress]

how can I contribute to getting more support for this proposal:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1484283102

there are only 13 hours left.

In terms of the game at large Anarchestan is pretty small beer. No support for your condemnation.

sorry but im only asking for support from delegates, you are a former delegate.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

In terms of the game at large Anarchestan is pretty small beer. No support for your condemnation.

sorry but im only asking for support from delegates, you are a former delegate.

Yes, but I have the ear of the current Delegate and will ensure that you get no support from the West Pacific.

[Drasnia]

In terms of the game at large Anarchestan is pretty small beer. No support for your condemnation.

sorry but im only asking for support from delegates, you are a former delegate.

Generally it is a good idea to listen to people like BBD for a colt reasons. Like they said, they can influence his large delegate vote. Secondly, many regions have official positions in their government to advise the delegate and member nations how to vote on each resolution, so not are you just getting an against vote by a delegate, but also many against votes by individual nations.

Secondly regulars of the SC are a great barometer of public opinion. If everybody gets sites is not worth our time, you should bet on it being a waste of time to everyone else.

[Wallenburg]

No draft, no support. I will vote against if this winds up reaching quorum.

[Tinhampton]

Le petite campaign telegram, from Islaamistan:

Greetings, please take some time out of your day to approve of this condemnation proposal to condemn Anarchestan who brutally oppressed The Arab League and forcibly ousted the natives, before imposing martial law and claiming the region to be a Nazi Europa protectorate.

page=UN_view_proposal/id=patrimonium_petri_1484283102

[Kaboomlandia]

This crap is actually going to make quorum. Shoot.

Time to go lobby for a Nay vote.

[States of Glory]

sorry but im only asking for support from delegates, you are a former delegate.

Yes, but I have the ear of the current Delegate and will ensure that you get no support from the West Pacific.

Hey, now. That's my job. How would you like it if I started using the trebuchet without permission?

Jokes aside, Anarchestan realised that the game was up and voluntarily surrendered to the liberation force. I have to agree with BBD that this condemnation is unnecessary. Heck, if anything, we ought to be commending Anarchestan's honourable actions and apparent astuteness*.

*This statement should not be taken as an endorsement of a commendation of Anarchestan and I will not accept any responsibility in the event that someone actually decides to commend Anarchestan.

No draft, no support. I will vote against if this winds up reaching quorum.

This isn't the GA. There may be legitimate reasons why someone doesn't post a draft on the forum. Granted, those reasons are few, but they do exist.

[Wallenburg]

No draft, no support. I will vote against if this winds up reaching quorum.

This isn't the GA. There may be legitimate reasons why someone doesn't post a draft on the forum. Granted, those reasons are few, but they do exist.

Um...no, there really aren't. There is no legitimate reason whatsoever for a condemnation to not undergo a drafting process. Even if condemnations could be time sensitive--and they cannot--the proposal would spend at least four and a half days attempting to pass, a very, very wide time period for people to do whatever they feel is necessary in response to the condemnation attempt.

[Unowtican]

When there are inaccuracies in the proposal, I hope people do vote against this

[Wallenburg]

Since this is going to arrive at vote:

Condemn Anarchestan

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation - Nominee: Anarchestan - Proposed by: Patrimonium Petri

The Security Council of the World Assembly,

Noting the unjust takeover, forcible closure of borders, and imposition of martial law upon The Arab League perpetrated by The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan as outlined in the Security Council resolution Liberate The Arab League (SCR 213),

Distraught at the undiplomatic and barbarous means used by The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan in holding on to their ill-gotten power, especially in their dealings with well-meaning nations and allies of The Arab League, some examples of which include Hatay and Khorason,

Incensed at The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan's attempt to destroy The Arab League from the inside, partially by denying the unjustly exiled World Assembly delegate Al-Maghrebi their rightful rank and authority, and also by their aforementioned imposition of martial law and other repressive measures,

Convinced that the actions of The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan are completely incompatible with justice, democracy, morality/ethics, and the rule of law,

Commending the measures already in place to destroy The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan's illegitimate rule over The Arab League and return the legitimate, democratic regime to power there,

Hereby condemns The Anarchist Republic of Anarchestan.

[States of Glory]

This isn't the GA. There may be legitimate reasons why someone doesn't post a draft on the forum. Granted, those reasons are few, but they do exist.

Um...no, there really aren't. There is no legitimate reason whatsoever for a condemnation to not undergo a drafting process. Even if condemnations could be time sensitive--and they cannot--the proposal would spend at least four and a half days attempting to pass, a very, very wide time period for people to do whatever they feel is necessary in response to the condemnation attempt.

I can think of examples, though due to their nature, it would be beneath me to give specific details at this time.

[Nilla Wayfarers]

Due to the fact that, as the resolution itself admits, this nation's power is already being diminished, a condemnation seems quite unnecessary. Opposed.

[Vaniri]

"Good god i wonder if these pointless WA Proposals getting to vote are a raider conspiracy..."[x-files music plays]
Vanirian WA Ambassador

[Wallenburg]

This resolution is now at vote.

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"Good god i wonder if these pointless WA Proposals getting to vote are a raider conspiracy..."[x-files music plays]
Vanirian WA Ambassador

Sometimes they actually are.

[The Atlae Isles]

You know, when you see a resolution that sounds good, but see the AGAINST votes piling up, I just go to the forums to see if it's crap. Seems like it is. Now I'm wondering if some of the WA regulars didn't read the forums yet.

EDIT: I looked in Nazi Europa's RMB, and Anarchestan doesn't care whether they are condemned or not. In fact, they would see it as a badge of honor. Yet another reason why I voted AGAINST.

[The Stalker]

I find it very annoying this made it to vote.

We need like a Security Council Czar who can veto poor resolutions like this that only make it to vote by telegram campaigning.

[The Atlae Isles]

I find it very annoying this made it to vote.

We need like a Security Council Czar who can veto poor resolutions like this that only make it to vote by telegram campaigning.

The mods already remove poor resolutions in the GA after the Secretariat releases their decision. Should there be a SC Seabiscuit?

[The Stalker]

I find it very annoying this made it to vote.

We need like a Security Council Czar who can veto poor resolutions like this that only make it to vote by telegram campaigning.

The mods already remove poor resolutions in the GA after the Secretariat releases their decision. Should there be a SC Seabiscuit?

Haha I never did pay enough attention to GA, but yea apparently what they already have is basically what I am suggesting.

[Bohemund]

Even if a condemnation isn't strictly necessary due to Anarchestan voluntarily giving up TAL territory, it's worth voicing a condemnation of the action itself. If a thief were to give up what was stolen, that might make them an honourable thief but doesn't change the fact that stealing is wrong and shouldn't have been attempted in the first place. I refuse the advice of my region's ambassador and will vote for such a condemnation.

As to the representative of the Atlae Isles who've mentioned Anarchestan viewing such a condemnation as a 'badge of honour' only illustrates a contempt for the World Assembly. If they should derive pride from such a condemnation, then so be it but I would prefer this institution recognize a mischief-maker and malcontent for what they are and have a record noting as such. A diminished annoyance today becomes a problematic annoyance down the road.

[Unowtican]

Even if a condemnation isn't strictly necessary due to Anarchestan voluntarily giving up TAL territory, it's worth voicing a condemnation of the action itself. If a thief were to give up what was stolen, that might make them an honourable thief but doesn't change the fact that stealing is wrong and shouldn't have been attempted in the first place. I refuse the advice of my region's ambassador and will vote for such a condemnation.

As to the representative of the Atlae Isles who've mentioned Anarchestan viewing such a condemnation as a 'badge of honour' only illustrates a contempt for the World Assembly. If they should derive pride from such a condemnation, then so be it but I would prefer this institution recognize a mischief-maker and malcontent for what they are and have a record noting as such. A diminished annoyance today becomes a problematic annoyance down the road.

Thing is, Anarchestan didn't steal anything.

[Wallenburg]

The mods already remove poor resolutions in the GA after the Secretariat releases their decision. Should there be a SC Seabiscuit?

Haha I never did pay enough attention to GA, but yea apparently what they already have is basically what I am suggesting.

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[The Parron Republic]

Due to the fact that, as the resolution itself admits, this nation's power is already being diminished, a condemnation seems quite unnecessary. Opposed.

And the raiders take a badge of condemnation like it is a badge of honor.