Cadilux wrote:Im anti nazi im anti nazi
And CAIN isn't Anti-Nazi. Its Anti-Competency.
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by Indo-Malaysia » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:00 pm
Cadilux wrote:Im anti nazi im anti nazi
by Cerian Quilor » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:36 pm
by Drittes Deutsches Reich » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:05 pm
by Consular » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:27 pm
Drittes Deutsches Reich wrote:Consular wrote:This thread isn't necessarily about whether or not condemning CAIN is the right thing to do. There's no rule that nations or regions have to vote according to what they, or anyone else, considers to be "right".
Generally speaking, people do vote according to what they think is right...
by The Atlae Isles » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:20 am
by Drittes Deutsches Reich » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:13 am
The Atlae Isles wrote:Consular wrote:I generally vote based on whether the resolution is well written or not. That's about it really.
...That's terrible! You don't weigh its merits, just looking at the format, looking at the vocabulary and connotations, feeling the heartfelt words? You don't check whether it fits your values? You don't check whether it's a good resolution?
by Cerian Quilor » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:50 am
by Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:50 am
Condemn The CAIN" was defeated 13,654 votes to 3,417.
Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.
RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.
Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..
by Proctopeo » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:52 am
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Condemn The CAIN" was defeated 13,654 votes to 3,417.
May I be the first to say "We told you so!"
by Cerian Quilor » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:28 am
by Kitzerland » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:00 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:What statement? Please, enlighten me.
by Aimdar-Goomdar » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:40 pm
by Drittes Deutsches Reich » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:51 pm
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:Kitzerland wrote:Their statement is "We're going to keep trying in order to make a statement."
CAIN is not Condemnable and shouldn't be Condemned; however, I have the feeling that this proposal will be submitted again - wasting the SC's time once more.
Please, just so you know: this Condemnation and the result of its voting just comes to show that the opposition isn't powerful nor a majority of NS opinion - no matter what, the largest regions in NationStates will ensure that CAIN cannot be Condemned, even if you tried.
by Proctopeo » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:52 pm
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:Kitzerland wrote:Their statement is "We're going to keep trying in order to make a statement."
CAIN is not Condemnable and shouldn't be Condemned; however, I have the feeling that this proposal will be submitted again - wasting the SC's time once more.
Please, just so you know: this Condemnation and the result of its voting just comes to show that the opposition isn't powerful nor a majority of NS opinion - no matter what, the largest regions in NationStates will ensure that CAIN cannot be Condemned, even if you tried.
by Indo-Malaysia » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:01 pm
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:Kitzerland wrote:Their statement is "We're going to keep trying in order to make a statement."
CAIN is not Condemnable and shouldn't be Condemned; however, I have the feeling that this proposal will be submitted again - wasting the SC's time once more.
Please, just so you know: this Condemnation and the result of its voting just comes to show that the opposition isn't powerful nor a majority of NS opinion - no matter what, the largest regions in NationStates will ensure that CAIN cannot be Condemned, even if you tried.
Proctopeo wrote:Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
CAIN is not Condemnable and shouldn't be Condemned; however, I have the feeling that this proposal will be submitted again - wasting the SC's time once more.
Please, just so you know: this Condemnation and the result of its voting just comes to show that the opposition isn't powerful nor a majority of NS opinion - no matter what, the largest regions in NationStates will ensure that CAIN cannot be Condemned, even if you tried.
Combing the rules of the WASC, I see no reason why it's not Condemnable - I instead found a potential argument for such. A nation could perceive their actions as being unethical and, along with other points, express that in a condemnation.
The statement here is "Approximately 101 regional delegates and a few thousand votes' worth of nations have negative opinions about CAIN". It's something, and a good place to begin... something else.
by Cerian Quilor » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:43 pm
Kanuadu wrote:Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
CAIN is not Condemnable and shouldn't be Condemned; however, I have the feeling that this proposal will be submitted again - wasting the SC's time once more.
Please, just so you know: this Condemnation and the result of its voting just comes to show that the opposition isn't powerful nor a majority of NS opinion - no matter what, the largest regions in NationStates will ensure that CAIN cannot be Condemned, even if you tried.
Wasting the Security Council's time? I suppose the master would know better than anyone else.
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:11 pm
by Indo-Malaysia » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:14 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:This proposal just goes to show that no matter what happens, everyone will claim that the people are for them.
by Consular » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:27 pm
Drittes Deutsches Reich wrote:The Atlae Isles wrote:
...That's terrible! You don't weigh its merits, just looking at the format, looking at the vocabulary and connotations, feeling the heartfelt words? You don't check whether it fits your values? You don't check whether it's a good resolution?
I wouldn't say it's "terrible". It's just pointless; it defeats the purpose of the entire political discourse. The entire thing becomes a contest of grammar, rather than a contest of ideas.
by Drittes Deutsches Reich » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:04 pm
Consular wrote:Drittes Deutsches Reich wrote:I wouldn't say it's "terrible". It's just pointless; it defeats the purpose of the entire political discourse. The entire thing becomes a contest of grammar, rather than a contest of ideas.
Or perhaps it's just the attitude of someone who has no real agenda at this particular moment, aside from making sure some semblance of quality is maintained in our resolutions.
by Freemasonator » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:06 am
by Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:07 am
Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.
RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.
Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..
by Indo-Malaysia » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:23 am
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Start a new thread if you wish to write a "Condemn The CAIN" proposal - this thread's for Indo-Malaysia's one. Also yours looks like an almost complete word for word copy. Submit that and you'll be done for plagiarism and booted from the WA.
Unless, of course, you're a puppet of I-M.
Edit: As you have submitted this I have filed a GHR asking for its removal for plagiarism.
by Crazy girl » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:47 am
by Indo-Malaysia » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:50 am
Crazy girl wrote:Indo-Malaysia, did you give permission to this player to use your text?
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