DEFEATED: Commend Yelda

[Mad Sheep Railgun]

And yes, that is very true.

OK, is this a just game you like playing? What is very true?

I think he meant "Commend Sedgistan" ought to be deleted.

[Mousebumples]

If the World Assembly wishes to consider Commendations in the forms of poems, and commend someone for harboring puppets (last time I checked was agaisnt game rules) and being funny, than it surprises me how stupid mods could've been to let this qeue, and how we must not take our Assembly seriously at all.

Compared to a lot of the dreck that is submitted (and isn't removed), I think that this proposal is fantastically written/composed. For one, there isn't the multitude of spelling errors that often exist in such proposals. Secondly, it lays out numerous reasons for it's support - and does so in a very creative manner.

Secondly, puppets are more than legal under game rules. Having multiple WA nations is illegal, yes, but Yelda does not have more than one WA nation. He does, however, have multiple nations discussing proposals on the forums - which, again, is not illegal, so long as only one of them is a WA nation.

Thirdly, there is "taking the Assembly seriously" (as this proposal does - it simply lays out serious topics in a more creative manner) - and there is "taking a game too seriously." I am saddened to realize that you are unable to appreciate the innovative crafting of this proposal - even if you may disagree with the overall message/aim. You're certainly welcome to disagree that Yelda deserves a commendation, but I really enjoy the fact that AMOM decided to move in a non-traditional direction with this proposal. I don't know that I could write a poetic proposal (I'm not much of a poet, to be honest), but I like that we don't have to be as restricted by standard form within the Security Council.

Yours,
Ambassador Lizzy Hall
Leader of the Doctoral Monkey Feet of Mousebumples
WA Delegate for Monkey Island

[0rville Redenbacher]

Orville Redenbacher! Where are you?'

You called?

Hey folks, why doesn't everyone head over to 0rville's House of Popcorn? After a hard day of mud-slinging, backstabbing and other highly dramatic pursuits, there's nothing better than a huge tub of buttered popcorn and a cold drink.

Come on over!

[A mean old man]

I too have that TG from Mr Speer who seems to have overlooked my vote for. (At no point does he suggest I should change sides). But I also doubt he knew that I am also Fuaidh Mor.

The old boys club could conceivably include many of the regular posters on this forum including myself; after all I do believe that a debated and thus properly amended motion tends to be better than the ones knocked out in a few seconds by a newbie.

Did this "Mr Speer" send this bullshit around to every nation in the world or something?

[Yelda]

Jones explodes.

Snarling and roaring, the "dog" rips the horse costume to shreds, leaving Felix standing alone at the microphones wearing only the horse's head.

Quynn Olver sputters, leaps to his feet and points at the TV screen.

Olver: It's........

Aüþgæþ Spøtyiú sighs, leans back in his chair, and takes a sip of beer.

They watch the mayhem unfolding on the floor of the Security Council as Jones rampages about destroying furniture. A man, possibly the Diatraban ambassador, runs past the camera screaming in French with a dozen Destructor Bunnies hanging off of him.

Periodically, the vote tally flashes on the screen.

For: 1,669. Against: 2,168.

Olver: Well, that's good news. The cowards seem to have reconsidered their folly and backed down.

Spøtyiú: Of course they've backed down. Felix is destroying their base of operations and the war is over before it ever got started. I've got to hand it to you, sending him there was a stroke of genius. I had my doubts but it seems to have worked.

Olver: Oh ye of little faith. Felix always gets the job done, even if his methods are...unconventional.

Spøtyiú: Indeed. So what do we do about the cartoon people? They openly speculated about an attack on The Pleiades. I'd say that implicates them as a ring leader of this plot, even if they did lead the efforts to back away from it.

Olver: Hmm, yes, they got cold feet. However, even if they did come to their senses and call off this fiasco I think they'll have to be the ones to pay the price for it. It doesn't really matter who the ring leader was, we just need to make an example of someone and they'll do I suppose. We'll deal with them later.

Spøtyiú: OK, well, I suppose I should be going then.

Olver: Yeah it's getting late. We'll meet in Chairman Diřgę's office at noon tomorrow to discuss this.

Quynn Olver turns off the television and the two walk out of the office.

[Begnion Senate]

Why is it relevant what the masses think about Yelda? I can understand a small group voting on this proposal, but how does it pertain to the entire WA?

[Lowell Leber]

Becasue that is how the WASC works.

[A mean old man]

Why is it relevant what the masses think about Yelda? I can understand a small group voting on this proposal, but how does it pertain to the entire WA?

If you've read ANY of the shit I bother to spend hours writing up...

[Oh my Days]

Why is it relevant what the masses think about Yelda? I can understand a small group voting on this proposal, but how does it pertain to the entire WA?

If you've read ANY of the shit I bother to spend hours writing up...

You expect people to read your proposal? Don't be ridiculous

With regards to the allegations about AMOM forming an "Old Boys Club", when I was TGing delegates, Potato World mentioned that AMOM is currently helping him with a proposal.

[Crabulonia]

Why is it relevant what the masses think about Yelda? I can understand a small group voting on this proposal, but how does it pertain to the entire WA?

If you've read ANY of the shit I bother to spend hours writing up...

You expect people to read your proposal? Don't be ridiculous

With regards to the allegations about AMOM forming an "Old Boys Club", when I was TGing delegates, Potato World mentioned that AMOM is currently helping him with a proposal.

I've never seen him stifle people. If he is part of an "Old Boys Club" it is because he is excellent at what he does and he always takes n00b proposal writers under his wing so that they can become more apt writers.

Still we're talking about Yelda, who shows much the same MO, and debate should be focussed as such. Apparently some good natured joking gets taken the wrong way? Hmm, seems likely. Good natured joking is often misunderstood by those sour types of person who are completely without fun or humour. I'd say that postings of the Yeldan standard are very likely the pinnacle of this site, the exact sort of humorous side-notes that keep this site on the edge of nation simulators.

[A mean old man]

I have apparently been thoroughly slandered by this "Mr Speer" fellow, whoever the hell he is and whatever the hell he has done for the WA. God knows how many idiot lemmings have fallen for his low and filthy personal swipes. It's time for me to take a break.

[Crabulonia]

I have apparently been thoroughly slandered by this "Mr Speer" fellow, whoever the hell he is and whatever the hell he has done for the WA. God knows how many idiot lemmings have fallen for his low and filthy personal swipes. It's time for me to take a break.

They will soon be begging for you back when all the boredom reaches suicidal levels. That or they will all commit suicide.

In any case, you seem to be the winner here.

[Ardchoille]

I'm inclined to agree.

If the World Assembly wishes to consider Commendations in the forms of poems, and commend someone for harboring puppets (last time I checked was agaisnt game rules) and being funny, than it surprises me how stupid mods could've been to let this qeue, and how we must not take our Assembly seriously at all.

If you seriously believe a player has more than one WA nation, report it through a Getting Help Request. To save clogging the Tasklist, I can assure you that Yelda has only one WA nation, nor is he guilty of puppetwank during At Vote debates.

As to the format of the proposal, with a Commendation, provided it breaks none of the three rules SC proposals must meet and has the essential text "The WA commends @nation@", mods leave it in the list. Whether it then gets into the queue is the decision of delegates. The emphasis of the SC is as much as possible on members shaping the body. It was the delegates who voted this into the queue, and it's them you're calling stupid.

[Puppetwank]

nor is he guilty of puppetwank during At Vote debates.

[Ardchoille]

... nor is he guilty of serious, intentionally deceptive puppetwank during debates ...

[Begnion Senate]

Becasue that is how the WASC works.

Thanks for actually ANSWERING my question instead of yelling at me like SOME people *cough*a mean old man*cough .* I am aware that I am a newb, but hey I just joined the WA today .

[Poree]

I too have that TG from Mr Speer who seems to have overlooked my vote for. (At no point does he suggest I should change sides). But I also doubt he knew that I am also Fuaidh Mor.

The old boys club could conceivably include many of the regular posters on this forum including myself; after all I do believe that a debated and thus properly amended motion tends to be better than the ones knocked out in a few seconds by a newbie.

Did this "Mr Speer" send this bullshit around to every nation in the world or something?

Simple answeer: Yes.

[The Rich Port]

I vote FOR just because it's in poetry form.

[A mean old man]

Becasue that is how the WASC works.

Thanks for actually ANSWERING my question instead of yelling at me like SOME people *cough*a mean old man*cough .* I am aware that I am a newb, but hey I just joined the WA today .

Apologies. I've been on edge as of late.

Did this "Mr Speer" send this bullshit around to every nation in the world or something?

Simple answeer: Yes.

I'm apparently going to have to do some telegramming, then. I don't know who the hell this guy is or why he wants to piss on me, but I already fuckin' hate him.

[Kalibarr]

Sounds like someone hiding behind a puppet if you ask me.

[Fuaidh Mor]

I'm inclined to agree.

If the World Assembly wishes to consider Commendations in the forms of poems, and commend someone for harboring puppets (last time I checked was agaisnt game rules) and being funny, than it surprises me how stupid mods could've been to let this qeue, and how we must not take our Assembly seriously at all.

If puppets are banned I guess I'll just have to shuffle off then....nice knowing you all....

[Fuaidh Mor]

Only kidding.

[Fensake]

I'm just curious...Uhm...do commendations or condemnation...benefit anyone in any way? I'm new but I haven't see any gains beyond a pat on the back.

If it really is just the pat on the back...who...cares if he gets commended or not. Hell I still don't know who this dude is or why'd you gotta hate on him. But if your really gonna hate for something that is the equivalent of a "good job" from your dad maybe take a step back and look at what your arguing for.

[Mousebumples]

I'm just curious...Uhm...do commendations or condemnation...benefit anyone in any way? I'm new but I haven't see any gains beyond a pat on the back.

If it really is just the pat on the back...who...cares if he gets commended or not. Hell I still don't know who this dude is or why'd you gotta hate on him. But if your really gonna hate for something that is the equivalent of a "good job" from your dad maybe take a step back and look at what your arguing for.

Nations (or regions) awarded a commendation (or condemnation) are awarded a little banner/logo for their main NS page.

AND

Generally, commendations are given to nations (and/or regions) as a sign of respect and recognition for what they've done for NS and/or the WA (or, historically, the UN). I can understand your "who cares?" comment, to some extent. I can absolutely understand why a nation (such as AMOM) who went through the effort of carefully crafting such a proposal would care about wanting to see this proposal succeed. And I can understand that some nations (apparently Mr. Speer, for one) may be against this proposal. While GA proposals can get heated on both sides, I don't know that I've seen an SC proposal that had quite this level of campaigning against. (AMOM's commendation was definitely an interesting case, but since it was submitted, I believe, mostly in jest, it's not really a comparable situation.)

Hopefully that helps answer whatever questions you had regarding the C&C's. Welcome to NS/WA/etc. - if you have further questions, feel free to give a yell.

Yours,
Ambassador Lizzy Hall
Leader of the Doctoral Monkey Feet of Mousebumples
WA Delegate to Monkey Island

[Fensake]

Grazi, very helpful.

my nation thanks you for the assistance