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[PASSED] Repeal "Liberate Kingdom of Ireland"

Postby Rufford » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:04 am

The World Assembly;

Noting that the region of Kingdom of Ireland was taken over and occupied by raiders,

Applauding the efforts of defenders and natives on restore the region to its former state,

Understanding that the region is now under native control, and that the native delegate, Timmii3 has the region’s well being at heart,

Believing that, with the region back under native control, a liberation is no longer necessary to secure the region,

Knowing that a re-found is not a feasible option without the ability to institute a password, and that the native delegate has enough influence to password the region multiple times,

Remembering that it is the role of the Security Council to ensure safety and peace, and that the liberation prevents this duty from being carried out,

Hereby repeals Security Council Resolution #211 “Liberate Kingdom of Ireland”.

Co-authored with [nation=short]Rufford[/nation] and [nation=short]Neop[/nation]


I think this repeal is needed for the future well being of KoI, and as we thought that it is not likely to be controversial, we opted to submit before putting it through the forums to prevent puppeteering ect.

Note- I didn't submit because my WA is in a puppet right now, Mount Seymour has submitted it.

Edit- So it looks like the [nation=short] only doesn't work in the forums, so my bad.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:10 am

Rufford wrote:I think [nation=short] only works on the RMB.

To quote Donald Trump, "WRONG."
This proposal is quite good. I have approved.
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Postby Mount Seymour » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:16 am

Yes, I have submitted it. I'm doing this as Somyrion, but Mount Seymour is my WA, soooo.....
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Postby Rufford » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:19 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Rufford wrote:I think [nation=short] only works on the RMB.

To quote Donald Trump, "WRONG."
This proposal is quite good. I have approved.

Yeah I thought it only worked in the RMB because it didn't work here, I'll edit the OP.
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Postby Timmii3 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:43 am

Looks good. The time is right. Go for it

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:46 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Rufford wrote:I think [nation=short] only works on the RMB.

To quote Donald Trump, "WRONG."

Speaks the master of getting things wrong.

Timmii3 wrote:Looks good. The time is right. Go for it


And this answers the next question I was going to ask about it having native support. Anyway the repeal looks good, best of luck seeing as you've already submitted it.
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Postby Grezantime » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:45 pm

Not that it matters but I hope this gets through!
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Postby Rufford » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:02 am

Grezantime wrote:Not that it matters but I hope this gets through!

Thanks for your support, but it doesn't look like we're gonna make it, we still need about 70 approvals in a few hours.
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Postby Mount Seymour » Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:39 pm

Ok, so this proposal failed mainly because of a lack of campaigning on our part. We're planning on resubmitting, this time with more of a campaign to get it through. Before another version is submitted, what edits or suggestions do you all have for the draft?

Here's the idea for the new version:

The World Assembly,

Noting that the region of Kingdom of Ireland was taken over and occupied by raiders,

Understanding that the region is now back under native control, and that the native delegate, Timmii3, has the region’s well being at heart,

Believing that, although the liberation was originally passed with the best of intentions, it now would unintentionally harm the community by not allowing the natives to take control of their own region,

Knowing that a refound is not a feasible option without the ability to institute a password, and that the native delegate has enough influence to password the region multiple times,

Remembering that it is the role of the Security Council to ensure safety and peace, and that the liberation prevents this duty from being carried out,

Hereby repeals Security Council Resolution #211 “Liberate Kingdom of Ireland”.

Co-authored with Rufford and Neop
Last edited by Mount Seymour on Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:49 pm

Just a style thing, but I would recommend choosing either a semi-colon or a comma, and then sticking with it for the body of the resolution. If you were trying to mimic the "official" format, so to speak, you'd be wanting to be starting with semi-colons and then switching to commas, but that doesn't particularly work well with the style of resolutions we pass in the Security Council. Traditionally, you'd have your pre-ambulatory clauses opening it up, with those being separated via commas, and then the corresponding operative clauses following those using a separation of semi-colons. As most NS Security Council proposals, for the most part, don't follow a pattern of equal parts pre-ambulatory and operative, and are mostly dominated by pre-amb until the last one or sometimes two clauses, I'd recommend just using commas.

Other than that, it looks alright to me, and the native support means it's good to roll out. I would advise just buying $2 worth of stamps for the campaign. That coupled with a decently-worded telegram should get it vote quick.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:27 am

At the risk of being Captain Obvious if you do decide to telegram campaign then wait until after Christmas before starting it.

Good luck.
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Postby Timmii3 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:53 am

Submit it whenever it is most likely to succeed. We need this one to pass. I support it this proposal all the way.

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Postby Bakhton » Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:44 am

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Postby British Fascist Union » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:42 am

This needs more attention, my support is given.

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Postby Mount Seymour » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:41 pm

Submitted!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1483493743

and yes, there will be campaigning this time around :p
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Postby Altmoras » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:48 am

Mount Seymour wrote:Submitted!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1483493743

and yes, there will be campaigning this time around :p


At 10 approvals I don't really believe that.
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Postby Sygian II » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:51 am

Altmoras wrote:
Mount Seymour wrote:Submitted!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1483493743

and yes, there will be campaigning this time around :p


At 10 approvals I don't really believe that.

Did you anticipate more out of him? :P
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Postby The Atlae Isles » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:53 pm

It is now at vote.
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Postby Eulanai » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:13 am

The only thing keeping this from passing is the North Pacific. The Pacific regions have gathered up WA members like sheep and they've created an unfair voting block that decides which proposals pass, no matter what the majority thinks. An anti-Pacific proposal can only pass if it's submitted at the right time.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:04 am

Well done on getting this to vote.

Eulanai wrote:The only thing keeping this from passing is the North Pacific. The Pacific regions have gathered up WA members like sheep and they've created an unfair voting block that decides which proposals pass, no matter what the majority thinks. An anti-Pacific proposal can only pass if it's submitted at the right time.

How about taking your tinfoil hat conspiracy theories elsewhere hmmm?
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Postby Eulanai » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:54 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Well done on getting this to vote.

Eulanai wrote:The only thing keeping this from passing is the North Pacific. The Pacific regions have gathered up WA members like sheep and they've created an unfair voting block that decides which proposals pass, no matter what the majority thinks. An anti-Pacific proposal can only pass if it's submitted at the right time.

How about taking your tinfoil hat conspiracy theories elsewhere hmmm?


How about saying something to counter what I've said, instead of just belittling me.

I know the truth about you guys, and more and more people are now.

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Postby Aclion » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:27 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Well done on getting this to vote.

Eulanai wrote:The only thing keeping this from passing is the North Pacific. The Pacific regions have gathered up WA members like sheep and they've created an unfair voting block that decides which proposals pass, no matter what the majority thinks. An anti-Pacific proposal can only pass if it's submitted at the right time.

How about taking your tinfoil hat conspiracy theories elsewhere hmmm?

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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:05 am

My usual ask: is there native support for this?
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:32 am

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:My usual ask: is there native support for this?

Yes there is.
Timmii3 wrote:Submit it whenever it is most likely to succeed. We need this one to pass. I support it this proposal all the way.

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Postby Bakhton » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:42 am

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