[DEFEATED] Liberate Antalia

[Sedgistan]

Mod Edit: At vote proposal text:

Liberate Antalia

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.

Category: Liberation

Nominee (region): Antalia

Proposed by: Aimdar-Goomdar

The World Assembly,

Acknowledging Imperialist Battalions' invasion of Antalia, a small but growing region;

Observing that the native Founder of Antalia, The Incorporated States of CyanX, has done nothing to protect the region;

Alarmed by the fact that the misinformed natives seem to be inadvertently supporting the Imperialist Battalions' occupation of their region unknowingly;

Fearing that Imperialist Battalions' occupation of Antalia may potentially lead to regional destruction;

Anticipating that without Security Council intervention, Antalia may become irreversibly refounded into Imperialist Battalions' control;

Hereby Liberates Antalia.

Co-Authored with The Empire of The Hidden Shadows.

To the World Assembly,

Recognizing that The Imperialist Battalions have raided Antalia, a small but growing region.

Condemning The Imperialist Battalions for invading a peaceful region and infringing upon our rights and freedom; they have stripped the native nations of their power and say in Antalia by taking away our role as officers of the region.

Fearing that a password will be set on the border, keeping friendly nations from joining and giving fellow raiders the password into the region, as well as banning native nations from Antalia.

Realizing that if they are not removed from the region, chaos will ensue and discrimination against the native nations will cause instability, which may spread to neighboring nations.

Asking that the World Assembly Security Council help liberate Antalia for the sake of peace and stability.

[Kitzerland]

To the World Assembly,

Recognizing that The Imperialist Battalions have raided Antalia, a small but growing region.

Condemning The Imperialist Battalions for invading a peaceful region and infringing upon our rights and freedom; they have stripped the native nations of their power and say in Antalia by taking away our role as officers of the region.

Fearing that a password will be set on the border, keeping friendly nations from joining and giving fellow raiders the password into the region, as well as banning native nations from Antalia.

Realizing that if they are not removed from the region, chaos will ensue and discrimination against the native nations will cause instability, which may spread to neighboring nations.

Asking that the World Assembly Security Council help liberate Antalia for the sake of peace and stability.

Liberations simply remove a password. They can't remove raiders from your region, tho you may be able to get some defenders to do so.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

To the World Assembly,

Recognizing that The Imperialist Battalions have raided Antalia, a small but growing region.

Condemning The Imperialist Battalions for invading a peaceful region and infringing upon our rights and freedom; they have stripped the native nations of their power and say in Antalia by taking away our role as officers of the region.

Fearing that a password will be set on the border, keeping friendly nations from joining and giving fellow raiders the password into the region, as well as banning native nations from Antalia.

Realizing that if they are not removed from the region, chaos will ensue and discrimination against the native nations will cause instability, which may spread to neighboring nations.

Asking that the World Assembly Security Council help liberate Antalia for the sake of peace and stability.

A simple "Hereby Liberates Anatalia" would suffice here. As you've written it the active clause isn't particularly strong and so could be an R3 violation.

[Tinhampton]

To the World Assembly,

Recognizing that The Imperialist Battalions have raided Antalia, a small but growing region.

Condemning The Imperialist Battalions for invading a peaceful region and infringing upon our rights and freedom; they have stripped the native nations of their power and say in Antalia by taking away our role as officers of the region.

Fearing that a password will be set on the border, keeping friendly nations from joining and giving fellow raiders the password into the region, as well as banning native nations from Antalia.

Realizing that if they are not removed from the region, chaos will ensue and discrimination against the native nations will cause instability, which may spread to neighboring nations.

Asking that the World Assembly Security Council help liberate Antalia for the sake of peace and stability.

Liberations simply remove a password. They can't remove raiders from your region, tho you may be able to get some defenders to do so.

However, Liberations are effective on regions with no password (as the one recently passed for the Kingdom of Ireland will testify).

[The Hidden Shadows]

Liberations simply remove a password. They can't remove raiders from your region, tho you may be able to get some defenders to do so.

However, Liberations are effective on regions with no password (as the one recently passed for the Kingdom of Ireland will testify).

Will this be a valid submission to the Security Council then, including what is said with the password?

[The Hidden Shadows]

To the World Assembly,

Recognizing that The Imperialist Battalions have raided Antalia, a small but growing region.

Condemning The Imperialist Battalions for invading a peaceful region and infringing upon our rights and freedom; they have stripped the native nations of their power and say in Antalia by taking away our role as officers of the region.

Fearing that a password will be set on the border, keeping friendly nations from joining and giving fellow raiders the password into the region, as well as banning native nations from Antalia.

Realizing that if they are not removed from the region, chaos will ensue and discrimination against the native nations will cause instability, which may spread to neighboring nations.

Asking that the World Assembly Security Council help liberate Antalia for the sake of peace and stability.

A simple "Hereby Liberates Anatalia" would suffice here. As you've written it the active clause isn't particularly strong and so could be an R3 violation.

I'll be sure to fix that if this becomes a proposal. Thanks!

[Kitzerland]

However, Liberations are effective on regions with no password (as the one recently passed for the Kingdom of Ireland will testify).

Will this be a valid submission to the Security Council then, including what is said with the password?

I... Think so? As long as it's liberated, they won't be able to place a password.

[We Are Not the NSA]

This has been posted for almost a week, how has no one pointed out all the R4d violations yet?

To the The World Assembly,

Recognizing that The Imperialist Battalions have raided Antalia, a small but growing region.

Condemning The Imperialist Battalions for invading a peaceful region and infringing upon our the natives' rights and freedom; they have stripped the native nations of their power and say in Antalia by taking away our the natives' role as officers of the region.

Fearing that a password will be set on the border, keeping friendly nations from joining and giving fellow raiders the password into the region, as well as banning native nations from Antalia.

This clause is a bit cluttered, requires a rewrite.

Realizing that if they the raiders are not removed from the region, chaos will ensue and discrimination against the native nations will cause instability, which may spread to neighboring nations.

Asking that the World Assembly Security Council help liberate Antalia for the sake of peace and stability.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

This has been posted for almost a week, how has no one pointed out all the R4d violations yet?

Must admit I missed them.

[Crazy girl]

Been busy Christmas shopping, but yeah, those definitely need clearing up, as well as the rule 3 one already pointed out. Fashionably late as ever.

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

I truly believe this is not very important, but due to what appears to be an inactive Founder and helpless natives, I will proceed to see what can be done about Antalia and this proposal to Liberate. I would strongly recommend, however, to make sure there is actually native approval!

The World Assembly,

Acknowledging Imperialist Battalions' invasion of Antalia, a small but growing region;

Observing that the native Founder of Antalia, CyanX, has done nothing to protect the region;

Alarmed by the fact that the natives seem to be inadvertently supporting the Imperialist Battalions' occupation of their region unknowingly and while misinformed;

Fearing that Imperialist Battalions' occupation of Antalia may potentially lead to regional destruction;

Anticipating that without Security Council intervention, Antalia may become irreversibly refounded into Imperialist Battalions' control;

Hereby Liberates Antalia.

Co-Authored with Aimdar-Goomdar.

I'd also politely like to ask that if you do use my edit, please add the "Co-Authored" phrase. Thank you.

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

On a second note, why is your nation and the region's founder endorsing the WA Delegate from Imperialist Battalions? If you really are a native, than if you stop endorsing Coalition of the Bloodbath, your region's founder, CyanX, will become WA Delegate. If you are part of Imperialist Battalions... wow.

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

Official Statement from the High Government of DankMemes

The above draft, revised by our nation Aimdar-Goomdar, will be submitted with the full permission of The Hidden Shadows... It is assumed, however, that The Hidden Shadows most likely has developed interests with the invaders that oppress the <mostly slient> majority, and is detracting from the interests of the majority of the natives. Therefore, despite the potentially controversial circumstances, this draft shall be submitted to the Security Council.

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

Official Statement from the High Government of DankMemes

The below draft, revised by our nation Aimdar-Goomdar, will be submitted with the full permission of The Hidden Shadows, the original author of the resolution... It is assumed, however, that The Hidden Shadows most likely has developed interests with the invaders that oppress the <mostly slient> majority, and is detracting from the interests of the majority of the natives. Therefore, despite the potentially controversial circumstances, this draft shall be submitted to the Security Council.

The World Assembly,

Acknowledging Imperialist Battalions' invasion of Antalia, a small but growing region;

Observing that the native Founder of Antalia, CyanX, has done nothing to protect the region;

Alarmed by the fact that the natives seem to be inadvertently supporting the Imperialist Battalions' occupation of their region unknowingly and while misinformed;

Fearing that Imperialist Battalions' occupation of Antalia may potentially lead to regional destruction;

Anticipating that without Security Council intervention, Antalia may become irreversibly refounded into Imperialist Battalions' control;

Hereby Liberates Antalia.

Co-Authored with Aimdar-Goomdar.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Why bother? There is an active Founder in the region. If he wants to password the region then a Liberation will have no effect.

With any luck this attempt will sink without trace.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

To repeat what I said in the other thread, why bother?

The Founder is active - if he decides to set a password a liberation will have no effect on it. While the Founder is active the region can't be refounded. There appears to be nothing happening in the region, the last RMB post was 33 days ago.

Basically your proposal is a waste of time.

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

To repeat what I said in the other thread, why bother?

The Founder is active - if he decides to set a password a liberation will have no effect on it. While the Founder is active the region can't be refounded. There appears to be nothing happening in the region, the last RMB post was 33 days ago.

Basically your proposal is a waste of time.

It's a waste of time to the minority. It's not - to the oppressed, silent majority.

Also, the Founder might as well just be checking his Issues and not caring for his region. That's what it looks like for the last couple of weeks. There's still a community that actually cares about the region, though, and though it might be small, it's for these issues that the Security Council is dedicated to protect.

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

Why bother? There is an active Founder in the region. If he wants to password the region then a Liberation will have no effect.

With any luck this attempt will sink without trace.

We must at least try to Liberate the region.

If someone really wanted to refound the region, I doubt that they would meet resistance. The Founder would most likely just endorse the refounder.

[Kaboomlandia]

Given that this region has a Founder, who has an infinite pool of influence to kick raiders with, there's no point in pursuing this.

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

Given that this region has a Founder, who has an infinite pool of influence to kick raiders with, there's no point in pursuing this.

Given that this region has a Founder who has absolutely no thought of protecting the region, we should pursue this. It might as well be considered a de facto founderless region.

[The Marsupial Illuminati]

Given that this region has a Founder who has absolutely no thought of protecting the region, we should pursue this. It might as well be considered a de facto founderless region.

That is the fault of the region's founder. It is not the responsibility of the SC to babysit the 1,463 small UCRs in the world against invasion.

During my first week of playing this game, my region was raided. As such, I was introduced to R/D very early on. I read all the guides on R/D and educated myself on the mechanics of the R/D game. I became the delegate of the region for a while because the raiders were clumsy, but the raiders won in the end and the region was refounded and locked behind a password. I was quite sad, but I was patient. During the months following this, the first thing I would do when I logged in was to look at the "Most Recent Government Activity" indicator on the founder nation's page and cross my fingers. I bemoaned the fact that the nation was in Vacation Mode, and I gritted my teeth whenever the player would login at 58 days, but I was still patient. After several months, I refounded my region after the multiple raider puppets in the region ceased-to-exist.

I have no sympathy for players who are too lazy and incompetent to protect their regions against invasion, and I have zero pity for those who are unwilling to educate themselves about how to take their region back from raiders when invaded. Sometimes, I meet players who have played this game for far longer than me, and they still have no idea what how raiding even works. There are many guides that one can read on R/D, and it is your fault if you ignore them.

It is so easy to free this region from its raiders. The raider delegate has 3 endorsements, and the founder has 3. The founder is endorsing the raider delegate. It takes just one endorsement to topple the raider delegate; you could do it yourself with your WA nation. The 26,169 member nations of the World Assembly do not need to have their time wasted voting for a liberation if freeing Antalia can be done with 1 WA nation. Also, Antalia does not seem to want a liberation and has done nothing to warrant the protection of the SC. This is not some big, important UCR that needs saving. Rather, Antalia is a 69-day-old-region with 12 residents and 16 posts overall on its RMB, which less than 1 page.

In short, a Liberation proposal for this small and inactive region is overkill because freeing this region takes only one endorsement.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Given that this region has a Founder, who has an infinite pool of influence to kick raiders with, there's no point in pursuing this.

Given that this region has a Founder who has absolutely no thought of protecting the region, we should pursue this. It might as well be considered a de facto founderless region.

No, it's not. The Founder is there and he can do what he likes as it's his region.

Nobody from the region is requesting a Liberation so your proposal is just a badge hunt.

[Neo Libertalius]

I may have missed this, but is there any proof that the majority of these nations are unhappy or "misinformed" about their leaders?

As others have said, Antalia's RMB hasn't been active for about a month, the founder is still answering issues, and as far as the imperialists' native region goes, out of about 2 and a half pages of nations, I only saw maybe two get removed, one of which seemed disappointed that people did not like his campaign promises.

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

Given that this region has a Founder who has absolutely no thought of protecting the region, we should pursue this. It might as well be considered a de facto founderless region.

No, it's not. The Founder is there and he can do what he likes as it's his region.

Nobody from the region is requesting a Liberation so your proposal is just a badge hunt.

Natives > Founder.

The oppression of the natives by their incompetent Founder, who endorses an invading Delegate, should warrant a Liberation, since the very nature of this region's governance is unethical.

[The Stalker]

Natives > Founder.

Way wrong. Natives < Founder is the proper balance of a user created region.

The founder made the region and can rule it how he/she sees fit. If the residents don't like how the founder runs the region there are tons of other regions to go to, or could easily create a spin off region and recruit the "oppressed" natives to join them.

Not to mention this region is only 70 days old, so it's not like we're talking about a well establish community. While this may reach queue, there no way in Hell of it passing.