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[Passed] Liberate Kingdom of Ireland

Postby Grezantime » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:01 pm

Liberate Kingdom of Ireland


Category: Liberation | Nominee: Kingdom of Ireland | Proposed By: Grezantime



World Assembly,

Noting the region of Kingdom of Ireland’s numerous relationships with other regions including embassies;

Citing the World Factbook Entry imposed by the raiders, instructing members to “move a W.A. puppet to Kingdom of Ireland and endorse Indian Russia as well as all regional officers, immediately”;

Observing that Kingdom of Ireland was recently invaded and its numerous embassies closed without stating reason, as well as the expulsion of the regional natives;

Believing that it is the intention of the raider groups to take permanent control of the region;

Concerned that there is a high probability that a password will be placed upon Kingdom of Ireland, effectively eliminating all chances for natives to return and regain control;

Resolved to prevent further damage from occurring;

Hereby Liberates Kingdom of Ireland.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:08 pm

Oh my god that formatting. *twitches*

Here, I'll fix it for you:

Category: Liberation | Nominee: Kingdom of Ireland | Proposed By: Grezantime


World Assembly,

Noting the region of Kingdom of Ireland’s numerous relationships with other regions including embassies;

Citing the World Factbook Entry imposed from the Raiders, instructing members to “move a W.A. puppet to Kingdom of Ireland and endorse Indian Russia as well as all regional officers, immediately”;

Observing that Kingdom of Ireland was recently invaded and the region of Kingdom of Ireland suddenly removing numerous embassies, without stating reason, As well as expelling those who don't endorse the raiding parties authorities

Believing that it is the intention of the raider groups to take permanent control of the region;

Concerned that there is a high probability that a password will be placed upon Kingdom of Ireland, effectively eliminating all chances for natives to return and regain control;

Resolved to prevent further damage from occurring;

Hereby Liberates Kingdom of Ireland.
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Postby Grezantime » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:12 pm

Sorry about that just fixed the BB code :unsure:
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Postby Greater Soviet Ukraine » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:14 pm

Grezantime wrote:Sorry about that just fixed the BB code :unsure:

No you didn't... actually...

Grezantime wrote:Hi, I would like my proposal to be looked at for errors. So if you notice any please reply on it. A quick side note this proposal has not been proposed yet.
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Category: Liberation | Nominee: Kingdom of Ireland | Proposed By: Grezantime


World Assembly,


Noting the region of Kingdom of Ireland’s numerous relationships with other regions including embassies;



Citing the World Factbook Entry imposed from the Raiders, instructing members to “move a W.A. puppet to Kingdom of Ireland and endorse Indian Russia as well as all regional officers, immediately”;




Observing that Kingdom of Ireland was recently invaded and the region of Kingdom of Ireland suddenly removing numerous embassies, without stating reason, As well as expelling those who don't endorse the raiding parties authorities;






Believing that it is the intention of the raider groups to take permanent control of the region ;








Concerned that there is a high probability that a password will be placed upon Kingdom of Ireland, effectively eliminating all chances for natives to return and regain control;




Resolved to prevent further damage from occurring;




Hereby Liberates Kingdom of Ireland.[background]

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Postby Grezantime » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:58 pm

Is there anything else to fix before proposing?
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:59 pm

Grezantime wrote:Is there anything else to fix before proposing?

Looking at it for legality issues right now, stay tuned.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:07 pm

Grezantime wrote:Hi, I would like my proposal to be looked at for errors. So if you notice any please reply on it. A quick side note this proposal has not been proposed yet.
Liberate Kingdom of Ireland


Category: Liberation | Nominee: Kingdom of Ireland | Proposed By:


World Assembly,

Noting the region of Kingdom of Ireland’s numerous relationships with other regions including embassies;

Citing the World Factbook Entry imposed by the raiders, instructing members to “move a W.A. puppet to Kingdom of Ireland and endorse Indian Russia as well as all regional officers, immediately”;

Observing that Kingdom of Ireland was recently invaded and its numerous embassies closed without stating reason, as well as the expulsion of the regional natives;

Believing that it is the intention of the raider groups to take permanent control of the region;

Concerned that there is a high probability that a password will be placed upon Kingdom of Ireland, effectively eliminating all chances for natives to return and regain control;

Resolved to prevent further damage from occurring;

Hereby Liberates Kingdom of Ireland.



No legality issues, all I did was fix grammar. Nice job on the proposal! :clap:
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Postby Grezantime » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:47 pm

Thanks for the help! I'm sure you realized it but it was my first proposal.
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Postby Grezantime » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:48 pm

Do I just repost this with the flair [Proposal] now?
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Postby Sygian II » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:16 pm

The custom is to usually keep it at [DRAFT] until submission, in which you'd remove [DRAFT] and mark it [SUBMITTED].
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Postby Grezantime » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:17 pm

Sygian II wrote:The custom is to usually keep it at [DRAFT] until submission, in which you'd remove [DRAFT] and mark it [SUBMITTED].

Thanks!
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:28 pm

You do generally have to submit the proposal... :p

You need 2 endorsements to submit a proposal.

I would wait until after the top of the hour to submit, because if you do that, you'll get an extra 12 hours for it to reach quorum. You'll also need to run a campaign - tip: have that ready to go before submission, and make sure you tag them properly?
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"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Postby Grezantime » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:32 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:You do generally have to submit the proposal... :p

You need 2 endorsements to submit a proposal.

I would wait until after the top of the hour to submit, because if you do that, you'll get an extra 12 hours for it to reach quorum. You'll also need to run a campaign - tip: have that ready to go before submission, and make sure you tag them properly?

I need to get my second endorsement still. *Facepalm*
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Postby Grezantime » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:48 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:You do generally have to submit the proposal... :p

You need 2 endorsements to submit a proposal.

I would wait until after the top of the hour to submit, because if you do that, you'll get an extra 12 hours for it to reach quorum. You'll also need to run a campaign - tip: have that ready to go before submission, and make sure you tag them properly?

How would you suggest going about campaigning(sorry if that seems like a silly question)?
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:53 pm

Grezantime wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:You do generally have to submit the proposal... :p

You need 2 endorsements to submit a proposal.

I would wait until after the top of the hour to submit, because if you do that, you'll get an extra 12 hours for it to reach quorum. You'll also need to run a campaign - tip: have that ready to go before submission, and make sure you tag them properly?

How would you suggest going about campaigning(sorry if that seems like a silly question)?

1. Draft up a telegram.

2. Send it to tag:template, making sure to tag it as a campaign telegram.

3. Copy-paste the template code you get into a telegram to a maximum of 8 delegates at once (max you can get for free).

4. Send. Repeat #3 over and over. (I'm not lying about this - it takes hundreds of telegrams to get something to quorum.

And by the top of the hour, I mean after midnight EST, because that will maximize submission time.

And you could also use stamps (real money), or use an automated program to do it for you. :)
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Co-Author of SC #204
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Postby Sygian II » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:26 pm

APIs are so much easier to use. I used it and it worked very well to get my proposal to quorum. If you need any assistance regarding an API, just shoot me a TG and I'll help you out.
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Postby Grezantime » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:28 pm

Sygian II wrote:APIs are so much easier to use. I used it and it worked very well to get my proposal to quorum. If you need any assistance regarding an API, just shoot me a TG and I'll help you out.

Thanks I agree just set one up and started sending out telegrams for my proposal. Wish me luck!
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Postby Goddess Relief Office » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:37 am

The proposal would read better if you switched the order of the 2nd (Citing the) and 3rd lines (Observing that)
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Postby Grezantime » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:48 am

Goddess Relief Office wrote:The proposal would read better if you switched the order of the 2nd (Citing the) and 3rd lines (Observing that)
Hmm, that would have been a good idea. The thought was to establish that it really is an invasion and not just an influx of people then state it was an invasion
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:32 pm

I'm afraid directly referring to the WFE is a pet peeve of mine, so I will not be able to support this.
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Postby Grezantime » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:27 pm

Wallenburg wrote:I'm afraid directly referring to the WFE is a pet peeve of mine, so I will not be able to support this.

Perhaps citing a disbatch would have been better? On a side note telegrams have been issued to every delegate.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:29 pm

At quorum! Nice job! :clap:

Switch the title tag to [In Queue] to reflect this.
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"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:43 pm

Don't know if anyone actually cares, but I'll note this -

The old delegate alone would take our delegate nearly three months to build up enough influence to eject. Assuming we had RO's take care of the next few most influential nation, we're talking about three and a half months for them. Assuming we held steady at about 50e, faced minimal attrition runs, and got 12 RO's crossed fully ASAP (none of which are given assumptions), I'd assume (considering nothing goes perfectly to plan) that the Hawks would be expecting to spend 4-5 months to move to clear this region out.

Anyone who knows TBH's operating pattern can look at that information and draw the obvious conclusion. And if you're wrong, or I'm being misleading, well, you've got pleeeeeenty of time to realize it. That math won't change.

But sure, earn a badge. When you go to take if off some day so KoI can have a password like it did before we came, I'm sure one group or another will just *love* to pull an Eternal Scholars on it.
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Postby Altmoras » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:34 pm

Contrary to Souls' claims, it would take approximately 1 month for The Black Hawks to impose a hidden password on Kingdom of Ireland. And as shown multiple times in that past, most recently with Heroes Rise, TBH is more than willing to park in-region for a month. A hidden password after all is what Security Council Liberations exist to prevent, not the ejection of natives.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:39 pm

Sure, but then we'd still have to spend months after that. Without any reinforcements to boot, because that'd compromise the password, with the understanding that the high influence natives are all active and won't cte, and knowing that if we did and continued to eject that it'd get liberated at that point anyways. There's a reason that passwords come after ejections, and not just for influence - less time to liberate. To do it at the head end of months of waiting to eject would be an idiotic waste of influence.

The end result here being that you'll got months of forewarning that a liberation is actually needed, and there's no need to move on it this early, Becuase then if we *do* leave in a week or two instead of six months down the road, you've actually left the region in more danger.
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