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[DEFEATED] Liberate United Defenders League

Postby HUDLQ » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:33 pm

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Liberate United Defenders League

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region.

Category: Liberation | Nominee: United Defenders League | Proposed by: HUDLQ

Description: RECOGNIZING the United Defenders League as a paramount defender organization founded in 2011 by the ever-illustrious Unibot III, commended by the now-redacted Security Council Resolution #78, in order to promote and revitalize the noble work and missions of the dying defender cause,

ESTABLISHING the number of famous and infamous nations presently and formerly involved in the leadership of the United Defenders League, including Ravania Ultra, Eluvatar, Solm, Zwangzug, Sovreignry, Feux, A Mean Old Man, Mahaj, Fischistan, Lyanna Stark, Mallorea and Riva, Belschaft, Tim-Opolis, Spartzerium, Johz, Milograd, Hodori, Hileville, Astarial, Cormactopia II, and Mekhet,

DETERMINING that, while the United Defenders League ultimately failed to achieve their goals in spectacular fashion and even damaged defender relations within the political world, as demonstrated by multiple attempts to subvert the legitimate governments of The North Pacific, The South Pacific, Osiris, and Balder, the United Defenders League remains an important and influential part of history,

APPALLED that the destructive military organization known as The Invaders has conquered the once-proud organization known as the United Defenders League and with it, the entire physical and spiritual essence of the defender cause and subjugated the organization behind a massive wall to prevent both entry into the region and the resuscitation of defending,

VIEWING the necessity of intervention to revert defender apathy as severely urgent, as The Invaders continue to destroy innocent communities exemplified by Singapore, Social Liberal Union, Sweden, California, and The Grey Wardens, before more grief is wrought upon such thriving regions,

NOTING that such an intervention may well be the last hope of ever successfully combating The Invaders, a massive region of over 800 nations,

ILLUSTRATING the above points as justification for intervention; thus, hereby liberates the United Defenders League.


Resubmitted with a R4b correction and an honorary mention of Mekhet, as per request.

You may show your support by approving the proposal here.
Last edited by Wrapper on Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:43 am, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: MODEDIT: At vote. MODEDIT: Defeated.

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Postby Varvuk » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:51 pm

so, we need to liberate one country in region? :eek: :blink: :lol:

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:51 pm

So we need to liberate a region with an active founder who has a founder-imposed password when Liberation proposals cannot affect founder-imposed passwords? What a great plan.

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Postby Malmberget » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:14 pm

Sweden as mentioned in this liberation is doing quite well and is in fact not destroyed as claimed. It also is under no threat of destruction.
I will of course be requesting our delegate vote against if this reaches quorum. Please do not pull innocent regions into your pursuit of propaganda and negativity. At a bare minimum try not to outright lie in your proposal.

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Postby Crazy girl » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:11 pm

Haven't looked into this deeper, but if you could get some sort of confirmation here from the original author that you have permission to submit it that would be great. Otherwise I might have to ding you for plagiarism.

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Postby HUDLQ » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:54 pm

Crazy girl wrote:Haven't looked into this deeper, but if you could get some sort of confirmation here from the original author that you have permission to submit it that would be great. Otherwise I might have to ding you for plagiarism.

I am the original author.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:59 pm

HUDLQ wrote:
Crazy girl wrote:Haven't looked into this deeper, but if you could get some sort of confirmation here from the original author that you have permission to submit it that would be great. Otherwise I might have to ding you for plagiarism.

I am the original author.

Saying you are the original author doesn't prove anything - the original author is the puppet that was used to submit the liberation the first time.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:34 am

HUDLQ wrote:
Crazy girl wrote:Haven't looked into this deeper, but if you could get some sort of confirmation here from the original author that you have permission to submit it that would be great. Otherwise I might have to ding you for plagiarism.

I am the original author.

"Liberate Defender-dom" submitted the previous version of this proposal. We need confirmation from that nation that you had permission to re-submit it.

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Postby Varvuk » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:56 am

im giving up on voting on security councils resolutions, because resolutions are just bad or not important whatsoever.

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Postby Liberate Defender-dom » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:50 pm

She is the original author...

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Postby Roavin » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:20 pm

Once again (as initially spotted by BBD elsewhere), read the first letters of each line from bottom to top: "INVADER".
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Postby Wordy » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:41 pm

Actually it says INVADED
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Postby Drasnia » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:48 pm

Wordy wrote:Actually it says INVADED

Depends on whether you consider the system written Description, or the player written Recognizing. I would guess it's the latter, considering that's what they'd be looking at while drafting.
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Postby Anapol » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:52 pm

HUDLQ wrote:RECOGNIZING the United Defenders League as a paramount defender organization founded in 2011 by the ever-illustrious Unibot III...

Ever-illustrious? I find this to be a very odd choice of wording.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:56 pm

There is only one nation in the region, and the password is presumably founder-set (or, at least, set by the new TI founder). Against.
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Postby Leruc » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:25 am

Ok now I'm really confused. Ya'll are all aware that the target region is united defenders league and not the united defenders league, right? That's a really obvious thing, and the reason no one has mentioned it so far is because it's so obvious right? berserked deliberately named his region so that he could pull off a phony liberation proposal, that is what's going on here yeah? Or am I missing something blindingly obvious.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:44 am

Leruc wrote:Ok now I'm really confused. Ya'll are all aware that the target region is united defenders league and not the united defenders league, right? That's a really obvious thing, and the reason no one has mentioned it so far is because it's so obvious right? berserked deliberately named his region so that he could pull off a phony liberation proposal, that is what's going on here yeah? Or am I missing something blindingly obvious.

The blindingly obvious thing you are missing is that this is another advertisement for the Invaders wrapped up as an SC proposal.
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RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Leruc » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:50 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Leruc wrote:Ok now I'm really confused. Ya'll are all aware that the target region is united defenders league and not the united defenders league, right? That's a really obvious thing, and the reason no one has mentioned it so far is because it's so obvious right? berserked deliberately named his region so that he could pull off a phony liberation proposal, that is what's going on here yeah? Or am I missing something blindingly obvious.

The blindingly obvious thing you are missing is that this is another advertisement for the Invaders wrapped up as an SC proposal.


Yeah I got that, but the region being targeted was apparently founded a year ago by a TI nation. They are literally Liberating themselves from nobody. How did this pass quorum?

Edit: On that note, HUDLQ is out and out lying through their teeth, or else not very careful with their [nation] tag. Ravania Ultra and those other nations mentioned were never leaders of united defenders league. I suppose it's too much to hope for, that straight up lying on a proposal is grounds for a moderator to remove it?
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:54 am

Leruc wrote:I suppose it's too much to hope for, that straight up lying on a proposal is grounds for a moderator to remove it?

It's up to WA members to determine accuracy, not us.

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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:57 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Leruc wrote:I suppose it's too much to hope for, that straight up lying on a proposal is grounds for a moderator to remove it?

It's up to WA members to determine accuracy, not us.

Shouldn't this proposal be dinged at the 11th hour? The password was set by the founder (who is the sole resident of the region), not the delegate (of which there is none as I write this).
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Postby Drasnia » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:11 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:It's up to WA members to determine accuracy, not us.

Shouldn't this proposal be dinged at the 11th hour? The password was set by the founder (who is the sole resident of the region), not the delegate (of which there is none as I write this).

Once again it's not an illegality. Just because there's no delegate password now doesn't mean there won't be in the future. This means resolutions could be passed proactively to preempt invasions.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:27 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:It's up to WA members to determine accuracy, not us.

Shouldn't this proposal be dinged at the 11th hour? The password was set by the founder (who is the sole resident of the region), not the delegate (of which there is none as I write this).

Apart from plagiarism the only things I thought it could get dinged on was advertising (the acrostic formed by the first letter of each clause) and it was a little bit baity towards members of the UDL.

However, as both Sedge and CG have seen this proposal and haven't pulled it then you have to assume it passed muster.
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RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Crazy girl » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:42 pm

Don't assume too much, we could miss things as well. :p

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Postby Wordy » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:29 pm

Leruc wrote:Ok now I'm really confused. Ya'll are all aware that the target region is united defenders league and not the united defenders league, right? That's a really obvious thing, and the reason no one has mentioned it so far is because it's so obvious right? berserked deliberately named his region so that he could pull off a phony liberation proposal, that is what's going on here yeah? Or am I missing something blindingly obvious.


Kinda surprised that region did not get dinged for griefing.
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Postby General Knot » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:03 pm

I've noticed that "selfies" seem to be the craze these days. Or at least people have developed an inclination to call proposals "selfies".

Here's an actual selfie then.
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