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Cormactopia II
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Postby Cormactopia II » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:07 am

Following the return of the Founder of Social Liberal Union, I have withdrawn Osiris' regional vote for this liberation proposal.
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Postby LollerLand » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:27 am

Respecting the wish of the natives and being suspicious of the motives of the ones behind this proposal, The Universal Allegiance has decided to vote against this proposal.

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Postby Europe and Oceania » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:19 am

We voted for this.
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Postby Boghorn » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:07 am

And the situation ended up getting resolved on its own while the SC sat back and did nothing but bicker over a meaningless law. Yep, this really is like the UN.

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The United Muslim Caliphate
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Postby The United Muslim Caliphate » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:13 am

I'm just wondering that this bordering may lead to more tensions and another conflict, which your side cannot handle.

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San Poland
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Postby San Poland » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:13 am

And in a stunning turn of events, the SC did nothing while Social Liberal Union fixed this.

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Selatania
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Postby Selatania » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:42 am

"Impressed, despite the dire situation in Social Liberal Union, that Marshal T E Lawrence of The Invaders, in cohorts with other elite raiders, was able to conduct this seemingly-impossible invasion,"

I smell a rat

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Postby San Poland » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:59 pm

Selatania wrote:"Impressed, despite the dire situation in Social Liberal Union, that Marshal T E Lawrence of The Invaders, in cohorts with other elite raiders, was able to conduct this seemingly-impossible invasion,"

I smell a rat

You have a good nose. I have never heard of raiders trying to liberate the region that have raided...

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:31 pm

I don't know which is more sad, Cormac throwing a fit about the notion of Raider Unity, an ideology The Invaders do not ascribe to, or this attempt at a 'brazen stealth operation' within the Security Council by TI.
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Ravnabbor
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Postby Ravnabbor » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:43 pm

Member of the USSD here, I'm voting against this. Filthy Casualz has been really shady and I can see the natives don't want this.
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Postby Drasnia » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:53 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:I don't know which is more sad, Cormac throwing a fit about the notion of Raider Unity, an ideology The Invaders do not ascribe to, or this attempt at a 'brazen stealth operation' within the Security Council by TI.

Why raiders gotta make BT sad? :(
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East Antegria
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Postby East Antegria » Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:01 am

East Antegria has voted AGAINST this resolution.

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Postby Horsean » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:08 am

Firstly, how is a native supposed to be......IMPRESSED by a coup that restricts them.

Next, every time I looked at the resolution I see the word RAIDER so......how can anyone explain this, coincidence?

Finally, I have been told by a......refugee that the occupying delegate voted for this resolution, but it is your opinion and your vote.

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Ainland
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Postby Ainland » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:26 am

The invading delegate did vote for this resolution. However the democratically elected delegate has now returned and voted against the resolution, in accordance with the wishes of the native nations of the region.

This resolution is troublesome and brings no benefit to our region. I hope that Security Council members will vote against it.

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Postby The Republic People » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:48 am

In concern for Filthy Casualz, the submitter of the proposal, The Republic of Terosa has actually submitted them for commendation.

I get the feeling they're one of the nations that voted Yes for this proposal. All of this seems incredibly suspicious.
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Postby Twilight Imperium » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:06 am

Boghorn wrote:And the situation ended up getting resolved on its own while the SC sat back and did nothing but bicker over a meaningless law. Yep, this really is like the UN.


To be fair, the only thing they coulda done is pass/not pass the law, which takes a specific amount of time. It was still a very silly process though yes. :p

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Postby Syolore » Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:01 pm

As a delegate of Syolore, it is to my greatest sorrow to inform the assembly that our nation is relatively new, and has been isolated for some time. As such, I am unsure if our nation has the context necessary to make a decision.

I thought we might be able to glean some information as to what is going on from the resolution and the discussion thereof, but no such luck.

It sounds like a region known the Social Liberal Union has been invaded by several invader groups, and this bill is about whether to "liberate" this invaded region.

However, this bill is suspicious because it's likely that it was proposed by a member of the invading groups.

In addition, it appears every member of the SLU that has appeared before us has advised us to vote against the bill. Thus, it is sounding like that is the desirable course of action.

How accurate is this?

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:11 pm

Syolore wrote:As a delegate of Syolore, it is to my greatest sorrow to inform the assembly that our nation is relatively new, and has been isolated for some time. As such, I am unsure if our nation has the context necessary to make a decision.

I thought we might be able to glean some information as to what is going on from the resolution and the discussion thereof, but no such luck.

It sounds like a region known the Social Liberal Union has been invaded by several invader groups, and this bill is about whether to "liberate" this invaded region.

However, this bill is suspicious because it's likely that it was proposed by a member of the invading groups.

In addition, it appears every member of the SLU that has appeared before us has advised us to vote against the bill. Thus, it is sounding like that is the desirable course of action.

How accurate is this?

That's what happened, so it's pretty much 100% accurate.
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Renge Sun
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Trust those who are in SLU

Postby Renge Sun » Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:20 pm

Eggy216 wrote:
New Zacharianasville wrote:I Voted for. Frankly I dont care how the bill was written, but as soon as I saw the word liberation, I checked out the region that was invaded, and saw some terrible stuff occuring, hence I made my decision. Although I do find it odd that the delegate for the invaders voted for it, fishy stuff...


As a long time member of the Social Liberal Union, I would implore you to change your vote to against. Frankly the bill as it is constructed right now serves to pump the tires of the invaders more than it serves to do anything to help the SLU. At the same time, without any password instituted on the region by the invaders it doesn't do anything to hurt the invasion strategy, and actually makes it harder for us to wrest control back if we have a liberation in the World Assembly preventing us from temporarily locking the region once we get control back in order to expel all of the invaders.

Please, if you seek stand with the SLU, vote against the resolution currently at vote.


I trust the multiple members of the Social Liberal Union and with accordance the newly formed country of the Commonwealth of Renge Sun will be voting against this resolution until new information is presented and better execution has been performed on behalf of the SLU.

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The Skrall
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Postby The Skrall » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:03 am

The region in the proposal, Social Liberal Union, has a FOUNDER!!!
Why the hell do they need a liberation? The Founder can free the region.
This proposal was a waste of the Security Council's time.
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Postby Drasnia » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:06 am

The Skrall wrote:The region in the proposal, [region=Social Liberal Union], has a FOUNDER!!!
Why the hell do they need a liberation? The Founder can free the region.
This proposal was a waste of the Security Council's time.

The founder resurrected after this proposal went to vote.
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The Skrall
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Postby The Skrall » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:15 am

If the region is already recovered, won't a liberation open it up to attack?
Also, it seems peculiar that the people living in the region want this defeated.
I am voting against this.
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Postby Drasnia » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:27 am

The Skrall wrote:If the region is already recovered, won't a liberation open it up to attack?
Also, it seems peculiar that the people living in the region want this defeated.
I am voting against this.

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Postby UED » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:30 am

"Liberate Social Liberal Union" was defeated 14,858 votes to 2,659.
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Syolore
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Postby Syolore » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:49 am

Welp, looks like I didn't get to vote. But since apparently my explanation of what happened was correct, I would have voted no, and no won. So I wasn't needed...this time.

Hopefully I'll get in on things next time.

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