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Cidade de kremmel
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Postby Cidade de kremmel » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:59 am

I do not like the ban because a sovereign country should be able to get rid of potentially dangerous, criminal or illegal individuals.

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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:10 am

Cidade de kremmel wrote:I do not like the ban because a sovereign country should be able to get rid of potentially dangerous, criminal or illegal individuals.

Neville: It is still able to, Ambassador.

Fairburn: Next time, we're just going to go with the title 'National Sovereignty Regarding Everything'.

Araraukar wrote:EDIT: I think the majority of non-forum-goers' against votes may be in fact because they think this is about gameside regional bans.

OOC: I would add in a clause clarifying this issue, but such a clarification would almost certainly violate the metagaming rule.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:35 am

States of Glory WA Office wrote:Fairburn: Next time, we're just going to go with the title 'National Sovereignty Regarding Everything'.

"You should title it 'Resolution 405'." Blackbourne advises.
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:35 am

States of Glory WA Office wrote:
Fauxia wrote:"We will not support, as this puts too much limitation on banishment, and largely wrong ones."

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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:13 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:
States of Glory WA Office wrote:Fairburn: Next time, we're just going to go with the title 'National Sovereignty Regarding Everything'.

"You should title it 'Resolution 405'." Blackbourne advises.

Barbera: Ambassador Blackbourne, our Delegation does not wish to infringe on the interests of your Delegation by plagiarising resolution titles.

Harold: Wait, are Fairburn and Neville still ignoring the Excidium Planetis delegation after all this time?

Barbera: The actions committed by Ambassador Schultz against our Delegation necessitates such a response until such time as the Excidium Planetis Delegation formally apologises for the former Ambassador's actions.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:41 pm

Alright, whose bright idea was it to build a prison right nextdoor to our HQ to house the world's unwanted criminal scum? Someone who wants property values to plummet (and I would remind everyone that this campus is convenient to a number of luxury hotels, shopping centers, car dealerships, and amusement parks?) -- or just someone who felt sorry for Capt. Chiang being so bored lately with having no one to torture? I'm positive the prison warden would make great use of her talents to interrogate inmates plotting riots or escapes.

All the same, the Kennyite delegation votes against.
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:42 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:
Araraukar wrote:EDIT: I think the majority of non-forum-goers' against votes may be in fact because they think this is about gameside regional bans.

OOC: I would add in a clause clarifying this issue, but such a clarification would almost certainly violate the metagaming rule.

OOC: Or you could just call exile "exile" and avoid the confusion. :roll:

EDIT: Also LOL at Kenny's response. :D
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:58 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Alright, whose bright idea was it to build a prison right nextdoor to our HQ to house the world's unwanted criminal scum? Someone who wants property values to plummet (and I would remind everyone that this campus is convenient to a number of luxury hotels, shopping centers, car dealerships, and amusement parks?) -- or just someone who felt sorry for Capt. Chiang being so bored lately with having no one to torture? I'm positive the prison warden would make great use of her talents to interrogate inmates plotting riots or escapes.

All the same, the Kennyite delegation votes against.

Fairburn: It was him!

Fairburn points at Harold and promptly leaves.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:58 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:Barbera: Ambassador Blackbourne, our Delegation does not wish to infringe on the interests of your Delegation by plagiarising resolution titles.

Harold: Wait, are Fairburn and Neville still ignoring the Excidium Planetis delegation after all this time?

Barbera: The actions committed by Ambassador Schultz against our Delegation necessitates such a response until such time as the Excidium Planetis Delegation formally apologises for the former Ambassador's actions.

"I'm going to be honest," Blackbourne admits, "I no longer remember what it is that your delegation is upset about."
Current Ambassador: Adelia Meritt
Ex-Ambassador: Cornelia Schultz, author of GA#355 and GA#368.
#MakeLegislationFunnyAgain
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:50 am

Excidium Planetis wrote:
States of Glory WA Office wrote:Barbera: Ambassador Blackbourne, our Delegation does not wish to infringe on the interests of your Delegation by plagiarising resolution titles.

Harold: Wait, are Fairburn and Neville still ignoring the Excidium Planetis delegation after all this time?

Barbera: The actions committed by Ambassador Schultz against our Delegation necessitates such a response until such time as the Excidium Planetis Delegation formally apologises for the former Ambassador's actions.

"I'm going to be honest," Blackbourne admits, "I no longer remember what it is that your delegation is upset about."

Barbera: Our Delegation has made it clear that the actions performed by former Ambassador Schultz have necessitated this response.
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:10 am

States of Glory WA Office wrote:
Excidium Planetis wrote:"I'm going to be honest," Blackbourne admits, "I no longer remember what it is that your delegation is upset about."

Barbera: Our Delegation has made it clear that the actions performed by former Ambassador Schultz have necessitated this response.

You should just have a duel and get over the hurt egos. (OOC: Non-lethal duel, mind you.)
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The Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper
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Postby The Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:13 am

Excidium Planetis wrote:"I'm going to be honest," Blackbourne admits, "I no longer remember what it is that your delegation is upset about."

AHUME: (mumbles) Perhaps it's the ten thousand votes against.

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:39 am

States of Glory WA Office wrote:Barbera: Our Delegation has made it clear that the actions performed by former Ambassador Schultz have necessitated this response.

"I am neither aware of nor responsible for all of the former Ambassador's actions." Blackbourne replies.
Current Ambassador: Adelia Meritt
Ex-Ambassador: Cornelia Schultz, author of GA#355 and GA#368.
#MakeLegislationFunnyAgain
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:You didn't know about Excidium? The greatest space nomads in the NS multiverse with a healthy dose (read: over 9000 percent) of realism?
Saveyou Island wrote:"Warmest welcomes to the Assembly, ambassador. You'll soon learn to hate everyone here."
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Digital Network Defence is pretty meh
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Adytus
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Postby Adytus » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:12 am

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From the Osiris Fraternal Order
And the office of the Vizier of World Assembly Affairs


“As Ra makes his way across the heavily sky, and the cycle of the universe continues, the people of Osiris and its prosperity of the Nile, after consulting with the community, and the gods Seshat and Ma’at, have determined to vote AGAINST the current resolution. The Pharaoh will vote according to the people, and according to Ma’at. His actions are necessary in maintaining the balance between order and chaos, truth and darkness, and Osiris will follow the Pharaoh’s direction. The government of the Osiris Fraternal Order will consider no proposal without the text meeting the requirements of Ma’at. We will continue to uphold our moral responsibilities to the people, maintaining and voting in favor of any proposals that will forward the truth and honor that is expected of all who call Osiris home. Cosmic harmony is only obtainable through expressing the will of Ma’at, and the will of the Pharaoh. Although we have derived at this decision, the author of the proposal - or any party interested - is welcome to present a case that would enlighten the Pharaoh and the community to the purpose of the proposal, and perhaps change the will of the gods, the Pharaoh, and the community. If this interests you, please visit our kingdom and speak your knowledge here. All information is important, and will be presented to Seshat, the goddess of wisdom, knowledge, and writing to help direct the Pharaoh to make the right decision for the people of fraternal order. If you have any questions about Osiris in the World Assembly, please direct them to the office of the Vizier of World Assembly Affairs by sending Adytus a telegram. For more general questions regarding Osiris, please direct them to the Pharaoh, Neo Kervoskia. Thank you fellow ambassadors, and author of the current proposal at vote, for your time. Osiris, her people, and the office of the Vizier greatly appreciate your time, and patience.

Best Regards,
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:48 am

Adytus wrote:(Image)

OOC: I'm in Osiris, and happen to be a fan of ancient Egypt (though that's not why I'm in Osiris, originally), and that official seal thing still makes me cringe. :P
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Postby Adytus » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:17 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Adytus wrote:(Image)

OOC: I'm in Osiris, and happen to be a fan of ancient Egypt (though that's not why I'm in Osiris, originally), and that official seal thing still makes me cringe. :P

OOC: We have a different one, but I have yet to make the background transparent, and it too could use a little work. So I didn't use it this time. You are welcome to make the department one. :p
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:30 pm

Adytus wrote:-snip-

OOC: Thanks for the offer, but Osiris' 154 votes aren't going to change anything here. Perhaps you could get me in touch with Pallaith? ;)
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:44 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:
Adytus wrote:-snip-

OOC: Thanks for the offer, but Osiris' 154 votes aren't going to change anything here. Perhaps you could get me in touch with Pallaith? ;)

OOC:
I advise you to make an account on TNP's forums, ask for masking so you can post in their World Assembly forum, and argue your case there.
Current Ambassador: Adelia Meritt
Ex-Ambassador: Cornelia Schultz, author of GA#355 and GA#368.
#MakeLegislationFunnyAgain
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:You didn't know about Excidium? The greatest space nomads in the NS multiverse with a healthy dose (read: over 9000 percent) of realism?
Saveyou Island wrote:"Warmest welcomes to the Assembly, ambassador. You'll soon learn to hate everyone here."
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Digital Network Defence is pretty meh
Tier 9 nation, according to my index.Made of nomadic fleets.


News: AI wins Dawn Fleet election for High Counselor.

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The Socialist Democratic Union
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Limitations on Banishment

Postby The Socialist Democratic Union » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:51 pm

The World Assembly has no right coming in to my nation and telling the SDU government how to banish our people

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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:51 am

The Socialist Democratic Union wrote:The World Assembly has no right coming in to my nation and telling the SDU government how to banish our people

Neville: Who's coming into your nation?

Fairburn: Bureaucrats, of course! Everyone knows that bureaucracy is the root of all evil!
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:01 am

"Limitations on banishment" was defeated 10,836 votes to 2,647.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:01 am

Huh. Banishment wasn't capitalised.

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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:08 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Huh. Banishment wasn't capitalised.

OOC: I'd assumed that since it was automatically capitalised when I typed it in, it would be automatically capitalised when it failed or passed. Apparently not.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:01 am

States of Glory WA Office wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Huh. Banishment wasn't capitalised.

OOC: I'd assumed that since it was automatically capitalised when I typed it in, it would be automatically capitalised when it failed or passed. Apparently not.

OOC: Very odd indeed. Well, at least this new feature holds away the Dastardly effects of miscapitalization!
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:48 am

Wallenburg wrote:OOC: Very odd indeed. Well, at least this new feature holds away the Dastardly effects of miscapitalization!

dastardly Menaces!
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