[PASSED] Repeal "Liberate The Place That Has No Big Banks"

[Yodle]

This could all be avoided if you

a, Got a Defender region to help, that's not hard.

b, Read NSA's Dispatch on how to fix your region after tag raiding.

But seeming as you ran off very quickly after spamming, It's really not the raiders who can be blamed. They wanted to tag raid it, but when you left they saw an easy target.
So really, it's all your fault.

Also, if you are the owner of the bernie bros, you can ressurect it by logging in as it, then you can banject all the raiders yourself.

I would resurrect The Bernie Bros, but.. It was deleted by a mod and that means permanent CTE

[DAFT Universe]

On the graveyard it says the name is pernamently reserved. Nothing about Mods.

[Yodle]

On the graveyard it says the name is pernamently reserved. Nothing about Mods.

I bought post-master with it which is probably why I'm guessing

[The Stalker]

Soooo your trying to repeal this liberation against the native and former founder's wishes? Strongly opposed.

Believing that a region that has done absolutely nothing to even attempt to liberate their homeland should not receive the aid of the Security Council;

This bit seems super inaccurate to me. The region's founder authored the liberation resolution! lol, he literally wrote a resolution to try and liberate his region.

And that's like the only tool he really has, unless your suggesting he should have gotten a 30+ WA army all online at the update somehow. Cause if that's the standard, no founderless region deserves the SC's aid.

Also noting that the invading forces, HYDRA Command, never intended to even attempt a refound, making Clause 3 factually untrue;

This line also makes my eyes roll. Whether a raider is thinking of refounding a region or not, they're never gonna broadcast that, of course they're gonna say they don't plan to, but repealing this resolution will certainly give them that option again.

This whole thing is rather absurd, and i'm rather surprised no one has pointed it out yet.

[DAFT Universe]

I was a member of HYDRA during this raid. Everything on the petition is true.

[Yodle]

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=yodl ... /id=655963 This is a Factbook I made detailing the history and context of The Place that has No Big Banks (from the perspective of the founder, aka me), it may be of use since it seems like there are some misconceptions on events that have happened in the recent past.

[DAFT Universe]

Makes sense.

[The German Democratic Reich]

This has my full support.

[Yodle]

The natives of the region, few as they are, have asked this not be revoked. We will not go against their wishes. We vote Against.

So, since this seems to be the precedent of Liberation Resolutions, as the head of the natives from TPTHNBB I formally state my opposition and wish for the attempted repeal to fail if/when it comes to vote. It's the natives' wish after all, you all follow native wishes right?

[Tsukuyomi-no-mikoto]

The natives of the region, few as they are, have asked this not be revoked. We will not go against their wishes. We vote Against.

So, since this seems to be the precedent of Liberation Resolutions, as the head of the natives from TPTHNBB I formally state my opposition and wish for the attempted repeal to fail if/when it comes to vote. It's the natives' wish after all, you all follow native wishes right?

When the natives dont willfully abandon the region and admit to harassment of the raiders by telegram spam. In this case, I'm more than willing to make an exception.

[Kaboomlandia]

^

I would have respected your wishes had you:

1. made an attempt to at least help your own region rather than ordering everyone to jump ship within one update of the raid
2. not TG-spammed Hydra.

[Liddell Hart]

I fully support this repeal.

[Dodum]

If im reading this right, you want any country that has no banks or are not trying to get money to be removed or ambushed? Also the title to me states that if they have a small bank to remove them?

This could not be fair if they are trying their hardest to get more money or solve a issue. If I had a choice I would decline this.

(Just a side note, when I read Liberate :Set free of something: I think of get rid of)

[DAFT Universe]

If im reading this right, you want any country that has no banks or are not trying to get money to be removed or ambushed? Also the title to me states that if they have a small bank to remove them?

This could not be fair if they are trying their hardest to get more money or solve a issue. If I had a choice I would decline this.

(Just a side note, when I read Liberate :Set free of something: I think of get rid of)

No no, The Region That has no big banks is a region name.

[We Are Not the NSA]

If im reading this right, you want any country that has no banks or are not trying to get money to be removed or ambushed? Also the title to me states that if they have a small bank to remove them?

This could not be fair if they are trying their hardest to get more money or solve a issue. If I had a choice I would decline this.

(Just a side note, when I read Liberate :Set free of something: I think of get rid of)

"The Place That Has No Big Banks" is the name of a region.

6 days ago I telegrammed Kaboomlandia to ask when he was planning on submitting this, and he asked me to submit it for him due to his busy schedule irl and inability to run an effective campaign at that time. I said no, because my WA nation was the point in the invasion there, and I don't think I need to explain the issue that would have arisen from that.

However, now that Hydra has successfully refounded the region, negating any reason whatsoever for the Liberation to remain on the books, I'm more confident in my ability to get the repeal passed. I've updated/tweaked Kaboom's original proposal, and will be listing him as the co-author.

I'm not 100% confident that a telegram I received 6 days ago (that I initially said no to) would protect me from the plagiarism guidelines listed in Rule 2, so I'm not going to submit it until Kaboom posts here, but until then here is the updated version of the repeal:

The World Assembly,

Noting that the goal of Security Council Resolution #201 “Liberate The Place That Has No Big Banks” was to remove the password applied to The Place That Has No Big Banks by the raider organization known as HYDRA Command, in order to allow the native population a chance at reclaiming their homeland;

Disappointed that a high number of the region’s natives abandoned the region less than 12 hours after the initial invasion, and have not made any attempts to mobilize international forces against the raiders even after SC #201 took effect, thwarting any chance at retaking the region;

Observing that despite the best efforts of this esteemed council, the forces of HYDRA Command have successfully refounded the region, taking away any ability to bring the region back under native control;

Seeing no point in keeping a Liberation in effect over a raider controlled region, especially when the original natives have established a more stable home in The Region That Has No Big Banks;

Hoping that future Liberations will be more effective in combatting raider occupations;

Hereby repeals Security Council Resolution #201, "Liberate The Place That Has No Big Banks".

Co-authored by Kaboomlandia.

[DAFT Universe]

Looks good, NSA.

[Yodle]

Looks good, NSA.

The natives don't agree with this. We have to preserve history and the original region, removing this liberation would destroy history. If the raider founder CTE's later on, I want the security of knowing I can get my region back. This is the logic you all used for Utopia, yes? So it should apply just as well here.

EDIT: When the raider founder CTE's in the future.

[We Are Not the NSA]

Looks good, NSA.

The natives don't agree with this. We have to preserve history and the original region, removing this liberation would destroy history. If the raider founder CTE's later on, I want the security of knowing I can get my region back. This is the logic you all used for Utopia, yes? So it should apply just as well here.

EDIT: When the raider founder CTE's in the future.

Utopia was refounded by a non-raider, Big Banks was refounded by a raider. You don't get any benefit from keeping the region open. In fact, keeping it open will only make it easier to recapture if the founder ctes (which it won't).

[Yodle]

The natives don't agree with this. We have to preserve history and the original region, removing this liberation would destroy history. If the raider founder CTE's later on, I want the security of knowing I can get my region back. This is the logic you all used for Utopia, yes? So it should apply just as well here.

EDIT: When the raider founder CTE's in the future.

Utopia was refounded by a non-raider, Big Banks was refounded by a raider. You don't get any benefit from keeping the region open. In fact, keeping it open will only make it easier to recapture if the founder ctes (which it won't).

Sure I do, I get to keep my region's history alive. People will come across it months from now and be like "wow I wonder what happened to this region," and bam a nice big badge to give all the history one would need in order to understand what happened. You get rid of that and the region becomes just another unknown refound. So yes, I do get a benefit. Also, you won't be on this forever, even if I have to wait multiple years it's worth it.. Regardless of who refounded it, it should stay as the region is still under raider control. Even if it doesn't serve a technical purpose, it doesn't mean it has no symbolic purpose. If you really believed that the Security Council should clean up house for useless resolutions, then you would have voted for The repeal of Utopia.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Full support for this NSA. Nice work on the refound as well.

[Normlpeople]

I hope that this was a lesson to the former natives on what not to do during a raid. Since the natives (NSA and crew) support rhe repeal, I see no reason not to.

[Kaboomlandia]

For the purpose of clarity and dispelling any plagiarism concerns:

I explicitly give We Are Not The NSA permission to submit this proposal, as long as I'm credited as co-author.

[Nohbdy]

I submitted the proposal, but have filed a GHR to have it removed, because it just occurred to me that I can't start a campaign until tomorrow afternoon.

[Yodle]

I hope that this was a lesson to the former natives on what not to do during a raid. Since the natives (NSA and crew) support rhe repeal, I see no reason not to.

New natives?? Are you kidding me? They're not natives, there's no community there and they are invaders. The region is just another trophy now. If you consider holding puppets in a region that you have no intent of actually using or establishing anything as grounds to be called NATIVES then you have no idea what you're talking about.

Also they spelled it wrong lol, good job xD

[Normlpeople]

I hope that this was a lesson to the former natives on what not to do during a raid. Since the natives (NSA and crew) support rhe repeal, I see no reason not to.

New natives?? Are you kidding me? They're not natives, there's no community there and they are invaders. The region is just another trophy now. If you consider holding puppets in a region that you have no intent of actually using or establishing anything as grounds to be called NATIVES then you have no idea what you're talking about.

Also they spelled it wrong lol, good job xD

You willingly abandoned the region and have done literally nothing to attempt to reclaim it, even after your misleading liberation. The region has been re-founded, you are situated in a new, and far more secure region. As its been refounded, it belongs to NSA now. They are the new natives. Such is the vicious circle of R/D life.

The new natives support the repeal, the founder of the region supports the repeal, I support the repeal.