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John Turner
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Postby John Turner » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:09 am

The Greater Siriusian Domain wrote:
John Turner wrote:Why did you leave executive power to your delegate?


I was still in the process of configuring my region. DEN basically jumped me almost as soon as I established the Orion Arm.

They couldn't have, because your region wouldn't have showed up on their target list for at least one update. When you initially establish the region, you have the ability to remove executive control from your delegate then, yet your left it enabled for four days. That is not in the process of configuring your region at the point any longer. According to the history log of your region, they tagged you four days after your founding, which is not immediately by any stretch.

The point being, if you leave executive power to your delegate, and aren't prepared to defend your region and get tagged, it is your own fault.
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Postby Vexuar » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:57 am

I remember when I had a region with my friends. We got hit by the black riders. I don't think they knew what they were doing as we had them removed as soon as I noticed.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:00 pm

Vexuar wrote:I remember when I had a region with my friends. We got hit by the black riders. I don't think they knew what they were doing as we had them removed as soon as I noticed.

That is of absolutely zero relevance to this resolution.
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Postby United Augusta » Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:12 pm

A Million Dollars why are you proposing to condemn dem? If they could do harm to any nation, why don't you solve your own problems. I mean, I'm sorry but could you mind your nation to not be hacked or something? I could condemn Den but why should we condemn our world neighbors. We should help our citizens to be happy.

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Postby Eumantia » Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:22 pm

At last, the New DEN begins to garner a few of the accolades that Old DEN earned during its High Age. From the bottom of my heart, it has been a deep honor to assist them, even in small ways, in bringing such terrorism and emotional violence straight into the home-and-hearth regions of the [expletives deleted] sandboxers who are physically incapable of screaming bloody murder enough. And I think I can speak for all true NS terrorists when I say to them...

More, more more!!

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EDIT: Oh, and the Condemnation Award itself is hilariously worded. Terrified, eh?
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YES!

Postby Antagniza » Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:37 pm

My region (The Saczasa Alliance) was recently raided by DEN, so I support this fully.
Also, Knot is a mannerless fellow

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Pakturkghazi
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Postby Pakturkghazi » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:55 pm

I personally believe that this is an opportunity interesting way to get the military forces of countries involved in the game more. Rather than just having them there, why not include a way to wage war on another country? We can do it differently than DEN, but I see no harm in it. However, I choose not to vote on the matter. I merely suggest consideration of this idea.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:00 pm

Pakturkghazi wrote:I personally believe that this is an opportunity interesting way to get the military forces of countries involved in the game more. Rather than just having them there, why not include a way to wage war on another country? We can do it differently than DEN, but I see no harm in it. However, I choose not to vote on the matter. I merely suggest consideration of this idea.

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Postby The Greater Siriusian Domain » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:19 pm

John Turner wrote:
The Greater Siriusian Domain wrote:
I was still in the process of configuring my region. DEN basically jumped me almost as soon as I established the Orion Arm.

They couldn't have, because your region wouldn't have showed up on their target list for at least one update. When you initially establish the region, you have the ability to remove executive control from your delegate then, yet your left it enabled for four days. That is not in the process of configuring your region at the point any longer. According to the history log of your region, they tagged you four days after your founding, which is not immediately by any stretch.

The point being, if you leave executive power to your delegate, and aren't prepared to defend your region and get tagged, it is your own fault.


You know what, screw it... DEN is a model of our society and us peacemongers have no place in the world. As such, anyone who believes in peace should be branded a heretic and executed. [/sarcasm]
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Postby ROM » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:44 pm

Antagniza wrote:My region (The Saczasa Alliance) was recently raided by DEN, so I support this fully.
Also, Knot is a mannerless fellow

So them tag raiding a tiny region is supposed to change my opinion that this is a awfully written resolution? Honestly people - if writing a resolution and slapping DEN IS BAD!1! on it, and that can pass, then my expectations of quality in the SC have sunk.
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:03 pm

The Greater Siriusian Domain wrote:
John Turner wrote:They couldn't have, because your region wouldn't have showed up on their target list for at least one update. When you initially establish the region, you have the ability to remove executive control from your delegate then, yet your left it enabled for four days. That is not in the process of configuring your region at the point any longer. According to the history log of your region, they tagged you four days after your founding, which is not immediately by any stretch.

The point being, if you leave executive power to your delegate, and aren't prepared to defend your region and get tagged, it is your own fault.


You know what, screw it... DEN is a model of our society and us peacemongers have no place in the world. As such, anyone who believes in peace should be branded a heretic and executed. [/sarcasm]

But of course. After all strawmen are the ultimate ace in hole for winning debates.

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Postby Wrapper » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:01 pm

Condemn DEN was passed 12,505 votes to 5,290.

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Postby An Enforcer » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:06 am

Meanwhile the Red Fleet retains a bogus commendation badge in spite that its current treatment of Greece alone including the overzealous sabotage work in suppressing all 81 pages of the RMB calls for a condemnation from the SC.

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Postby Pierconium » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:05 am

An Enforcer wrote:Meanwhile the Red Fleet retains a bogus commendation badge in spite that its current treatment of Greece alone including the overzealous sabotage work in suppressing all 81 pages of the RMB calls for a condemnation from the SC.

Accuracy and fact have never stood in the way for a good commendation or condemnation from this Security Council. Mob rule at its finest.
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Postby The Greater Siriusian Domain » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:45 am

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
The Greater Siriusian Domain wrote:
You know what, screw it... DEN is a model of our society and us peacemongers have no place in the world. As such, anyone who believes in peace should be branded a heretic and executed. [/sarcasm]

But of course. After all strawmen are the ultimate ace in hole for winning debates.


Meh, I was actually just fed up and wanted to end with a bit of over-the-top sarcasm.
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Postby Knot II » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:19 pm

Antagniza wrote:Also, Knot is a mannerless fellow

Oh my, what did I do to deserve this?
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:27 pm

Pierconium wrote:
An Enforcer wrote:Meanwhile the Red Fleet retains a bogus commendation badge in spite that its current treatment of Greece alone including the overzealous sabotage work in suppressing all 81 pages of the RMB calls for a condemnation from the SC.

Accuracy and fact have never stood in the way for a good commendation or condemnation from this Security Council. Mob rule at its finest.


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Postby John Turner » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:59 pm

Ridersyl wrote:
Pierconium wrote:Accuracy and fact have never stood in the way for a good commendation or condemnation from this Security Council. Mob rule at its finest.


For what may be the first time ever, I agree with the Emperor of Pacifica.

HEAR! HEAR!
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:49 am

The author of this resolution was a member of a start up raider organization, and appears to have only moved from that raider region to their current region (The North Pacific) to endotart. Just figured that out and thought it should be put on the public record.

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Postby The Grand Central Paperboy » Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:05 am

Malviet wrote:Currently wondering how this crap of a proposal even reached quorum. For one, DEN does not have the ability to raid TWP; the 'incident' last year was caused by the backstabbing popularity stunt of the cowardly nutwad we had for a Delegate. This poorly written proposal is not only incoherent but also very insulting.


You're one to talk about poor English ability Mal....

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Postby A Million Dollars » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:55 am

So everybody understands,

I purposefully wrote this proposal with poor grammar. The purpose was to condemn DEN with a poorly written proposal so their badge is no longer something to celebrate and be proud of. This proposal is passed to remind DEN about how easily a poorly written proposal can show dismay towards them, which they take as a compliment. They can no longer be proud of their condemnation since it was poorly written, and pretty much false in some standards.

Basically, I try to show DEN they shouldn't be proud of their condemnation, as the purpose is to show how much damage they do to small regions. Since the proposal was passed and hey are condemned with a grammatically-incorrect proposal, they can now be shamed about being condemned by a small nation using a poorly written proposal.

I apologize for the misunderstanding. If you have any more questions, feel free to telegram me, as I will (most likely) no longer be active on this subforum.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:30 am

A Million Dollars wrote:So everybody understands,

I purposefully wrote this proposal with poor grammar. The purpose was to condemn DEN with a poorly written proposal so their badge is no longer something to celebrate and be proud of. This proposal is passed to remind DEN about how easily a poorly written proposal can show dismay towards them, which they take as a compliment. They can no longer be proud of their condemnation since it was poorly written, and pretty much false in some standards.

Basically, I try to show DEN they shouldn't be proud of their condemnation, as the purpose is to show how much damage they do to small regions. Since the proposal was passed and hey are condemned with a grammatically-incorrect proposal, they can now be shamed about being condemned by a small nation using a poorly written proposal.

I apologize for the misunderstanding. If you have any more questions, feel free to telegram me, as I will (most likely) no longer be active on this subforum.

Regards,

A Million Dollars

Yeah... I don't believe that for a second...
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Postby The Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:41 am

Yeah, no, I'm not buying what you're selling either. Seems to me you're trying to negate the arguments for repeal in an attempt to keep your resolution in place. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that.... 8)
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:31 am

I'll take the author for his word that he intentionally disgraced the World Assembly with an amateur and mediocre piece of legislation. It'll make for a good reason to repeal this.
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Postby A Million Dollars » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:43 am

Wallenburg wrote:I'll take the author for his word that he intentionally disgraced the World Assembly with an amateur and mediocre piece of legislation. It'll make for a good reason to repeal this.

I am offended that you would say I would intentionally disgrace the World Assembly.

I did not intentionally use poor grammar to disgrace the WA, I used poor grammar and poor wording to disgrace DEN.

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