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by Cormac Stark » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:36 am
by Wallenburg » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:39 am
We Are Not the NSA wrote:Alarmed at the assertions that Vandoosa participated in raiding Alternate World History and is its current delegate to the World Assembly, both of which are incorrect,
I think focusing on the fact that there was no raid on AWH would be smart. Either way this sentence does not flow well.
Dismissing the claim that the Glorious Nations of Iwaku have fallen apart due to Vandoosa's actions. On the contrary, the region has not fallen at all, and is actually quite healthy;
I'm not liking the word "healthy" here. "Doing well" or something like that would sound better.
Questioning Vandoosa's true impact on the international community, and the lack of evidence for many of the claims in the condemnation of Vandoosa.
This clause interupts a chain of thought, and should be moved. Switching it with the clause above would be best.
Noting the dissonance of condemning Vandoosa for supposedly injuring the Glorious Nations of Iwaku, yet explicitly stating the further injury of this region's activity as one of the condemnation's main goals;Believing that nations should not be condemned on false pretenses;Observing no benefit to any nation but Vandoosa itself in the continued existence of SC#188;
I still dislike this clause.
by Emprie » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:23 pm
by Wallenburg » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:36 pm
Emprie wrote:This is where I go on a little rant about these kinds of shenanigans. But first, a few constructs I want to lay down.
1. Anyone who takes pleasure in harming others is a filthy *words that would get me banned*. If you think your funny or cute by doing that, then by all means burn in hell.
2. I got a message to vote for this measure, but nothing to vote against it. I sense copious amounts of whippersnapperism.
3. Simply put, I am all for the idealism of "Republic Sovereignty", of which in short, means that nations may rule themselves however they please outside of following international law.
What I see here is a dramatic flame war that makes no sense in hell.
If you have issues with people and regions, than lock them down with a password. If you have issues with other nations, block them.
This, in my opinion, is limiting 1) a nations republic sovereignty,
2) creating drama thick enough to cut, bottle, and sell for $2.50 at the dollar store,
and 3) creating blacklists against players,( which seems to be the only useful purpose of the Security Council, which could be good, but also quite harmful if used in the wrong application), is a perfect mixture for making any sane man, woman, or child raise an eyebrow.
Now, with that said, I have an issue with the author solicitation to nations that have just joined the Assembly.
Personally, I have read up on all WA resolutions and the last month of drama from SC,
and I think everything has been in good judgement with a few exceptions. This is one of them.
Personally, I think you should simply ignore the foo who is messing up your regions, and carry on. However, at the same time, it seems like if the issue is not dealt with at this negotiating table, then issues will arise.
Personally, I will not endorse this measure, but if its gets to the voting floor, then I will decide. But as of now all I see is drama, bs, and a bunch of salty *more words that would get me banned*.
As far as anyone else who is reading this forum and also got a message lobbying for votes, I would advise to do the same, as I do not think it is wise for a new member of the WA to join a lynch mob such as this (regardless if its lynching or un-lynching as in this case).
by We Are Not the NSA » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:38 pm
Emprie wrote:This is where I go on a little rant about these kinds of shenanigans. But first, a few constructs I want to lay down.
1. Anyone who takes pleasure in harming others is a filthy *words that would get me banned*. If you think your funny or cute by doing that, then by all means burn in hell.
2. I got a message to vote for this measure, but nothing to vote against it. I sense copious amounts of whippersnapperism.
3. Simply put, I am all for the idealism of "Republic Sovereignty", of which in short, means that nations may rule themselves however they please outside of following international law.
Now...
What I see here is a dramatic flame war that makes no sense in hell.
If you have issues with people and regions, than lock them down with a password. If you have issues with other nations, block them. This, in my opinion, is limiting 1) a nations republic sovereignty,
2) creating drama thick enough to cut, bottle, and sell for $2.50 at the dollar store,
and 3) creating blacklists against players,( which seems to be the only useful purpose of the Security Council, which could be good, but also quite harmful if used in the wrong application), is a perfect mixture for making any sane man, woman, or child raise an eyebrow.
Now, with that said, I have an issue with the author solicitation to nations that have just joined the Assembly.
Personally, I have read up on all WA resolutions and the last month of drama from SC, and I think everything has been in good judgement with a few exceptions. This is one of them. Personally, I think you should simply ignore the foo who is messing up your regions, and carry on. However, at the same time, it seems like if the issue is not dealt with at this negotiating table, then issues will arise.
So........
Personally, I will not endorse this measure, but if its gets to the voting floor, then I will decide. But as of now all I see is drama, bs, and a bunch of salty *more words that would get me banned*.
As far as anyone else who is reading this forum and also got a message lobbying for votes, I would advise to do the same, as I do not think it is wise for a new member of the WA to join a lynch mob such as this (regardless if its lynching or un-lynching as in this case).
Raiding History | Security Council | Dear Natives | TWP Raid |
by Emprie » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:38 pm
by We Are Not the NSA » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:20 pm
Emprie wrote::shock: I didn't think that people on here were that near-sighted as to completely miss the point of my little 2 cents.
Oh well, your going to have to marinate on it if you want a clarification, because the text I typed up speaks for itself.
*walks out*
Raiding History | Security Council | Dear Natives | TWP Raid |
by Wallenburg » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:05 pm
Emprie wrote::shock: I didn't think that people on here were that near-sighted as to completely miss the point of my little 2 cents.
Oh well, your going to have to marinate on it if you want a clarification, because the text I typed up speaks for itself.
*walks out*
by Normlpeople » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:10 pm
by Vandoosa » Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:20 am
Normlpeople wrote:Do you have any idea how many innocent souls Vandoosa has sacrificed to Ozoi, Belldandy, Azunyan and various other heathen dieties they worship?
They are evil personified and deserve to be condemned in the.strongest possible terms!
by Wallenburg » Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:33 am
by Leppikania » Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:18 am
Vandoosa wrote:I've never done anything evil ever.. especially raiding and setting fires.. and knocking over embassies in stuff.. I am 100% mostly innocent angel!
by Vandoosa » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:59 am
Leppikania wrote:Vandoosa wrote:I've never done anything evil ever.. especially raiding and setting fires.. and knocking over embassies in stuff.. I am 100% mostly innocent angel!
I assume that means Vandoosa Sechsunddreissig is not your puppet?
by Leppikania » Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:41 am
Vandoosa wrote:Leppikania wrote:I assume that means Vandoosa Sechsunddreissig is not your puppet?
Oh.. that might be mine.. *blink*
by The Silver Sentinel » Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:26 pm
by Leppikania » Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:41 pm
by Herby » Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:55 pm
Vandoosa wrote:Normlpeople wrote:Do you have any idea how many innocent souls Vandoosa has sacrificed to Ozoi, Belldandy, Azunyan and various other heathen dieties they worship?
They are evil personified and deserve to be condemned in the.strongest possible terms!
No sacrifices for Belldandy! She is my weakness! As for the others listed I won't say..
I just found this topic.. *blink*
*Stares at Wallenburg* Hewwo!
I've never done anything evil ever.. especially raiding and setting fires.. and knocking over embassies in stuff.. I am 100% mostly innocent angel!
by Wallenburg » Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:57 pm
Herby wrote:Vandoosa wrote:
No sacrifices for Belldandy! She is my weakness! As for the others listed I won't say..
I just found this topic.. *blink*
*Stares at Wallenburg* Hewwo!
I've never done anything evil ever.. especially raiding and setting fires.. and knocking over embassies in stuff.. I am 100% mostly innocent angel!
Okay that's just creepy. Against.
by Herby » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:13 pm
by Wallenburg » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:31 pm
Herby wrote:Wallenburg wrote:Wait...is everyone's favorite Volkswagen a puppet?!?
You just realized this now?
I gotta ask why you want to repeal this so bad. Like I said before I'm not buying the badge of honor argument. The rest is all iffy. Maybe it got a single fact wrong, on AWH. Big deal. Show me more.
by Herby » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:46 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Herby wrote:You just realized this now?
I gotta ask why you want to repeal this so bad. Like I said before I'm not buying the badge of honor argument. The rest is all iffy. Maybe it got a single fact wrong, on AWH. Big deal. Show me more.
It also states an intent to punish the Glorious Nations of Iwaku for their founder's actions.
by Wallenburg » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:58 pm
Understanding the importance of educating those who may seek to join The Glorious Nations of Iwaku in the future, as to the region founder’s true colors.
Wishing that those who may later seek to join the region, will think twice before doing so, having seen the condemned founder, and not wishing to affiliate themselves with such a nation.
by ChingisOtchigin » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:27 am
by Wallenburg » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:42 am
ChingisOtchigin wrote:I really don't see any problem here, it obviously states that it seeks to end any false pretenses that nations joining Iwaku may have. It never states that its target is to save the region or anything like that. The people joining should know who's region they're joining.
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