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Postby Bears Armed » Tue May 24, 2016 9:10 am

{OOC: Unfortunately my internet time is even more limited than usual this week, but I've taken a copy of your suggestions to look at in detail while I'm offline.)
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(OOC: I plan on reviving this fairly soon.)
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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:07 am

(OOC; Title changed, one typo fixed; FAQ added to first post; other comments, & possibly changes, to follow...)
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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:07 am

Atomic Utopia wrote:OOC: I would like to give a IRL example of multicellular life that wouldn't give a damn if exposed to copious amounts of hard UV, "Water Bears" (Tardigrades). They can survive huge ionizing radiation dosages in comparison with humans and thus would be fine on a world without an ozone layer.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade

OOC: This is true. Tardigrades can indeed survive incredibly high levels of ionizing radiation. (Also, at least in their dormant 'tun' state, you can boil them in water for a while or keep them in temperatures only slightly above absolute zero, or expose them to the vacuum of space, and at least some of them will probably survive!)
However, bearing in mind how long Tardigrades have existed for and how little they seem to have diversified or otherwise evolved during that time, I suspect strongly that this resistance to radiation involves a DNA-repair mechanism so effective that it also makes them pretty much mutation-proof... meaning that the development of either a more complex ecosystem or sapient beings from such an origin would be rather unlikely.

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Anyway,it looks as though I'll finally get around to submitting this -- with a TG campaign to all of the WA Delegates who don't have blocks in place (using stamps kindly donated to me, earlier this year, by World Assembly Improvement Foundation) -- on Tuesday 02nd January.
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Postby Oresland » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:29 am

"You can be sure that this proposal gets an approval from us, full support"

OOC: Like the reference to bears in the preamble
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Postby Bears Armed » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:00 am

Oresland wrote:"You can be sure that this proposal gets an approval from us, full support"

OOC: Like the reference to bears in the preamble

OOC: Thank you...
... And because I started that word with a lower case 'b' I can argue that it refers to bears in general, rather than specifically to my nation's sapient ones, so it doesn't make the proposal illegal for either Branding or Meta-gaming.
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The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:43 pm

OOC: Just a couple of suggestions from me.

Firstly, having two verbs in Clause Three doesn't sit right with me and I don't see why the clause couldn't be split up.

Secondly, trying to look up what the IMO was was a pain in the neck as I couldn't find it in Scion's WA bureaucracy guide (as it happens, he included it but forgot to include the acronym as well); I'd recommend including the name in full to avoid any confusion.

Also, full support. :)
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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:34 am

We support this proposal, but we think that it could be somewhat more concise. Our recommendation is to reduce the proposal to three sections: (1) discouraging use of ozone-depleting chemicals, (2) requiring use of alternative chemicals where they're available, and (3) establishing the agency that conducts research and enforces Section 2.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:25 am

States of Glory WA Office wrote:Secondly, trying to look up what the IMO was was a pain in the neck as I couldn't find it in Scion's WA bureaucracy guide (as it happens, he included it but forgot to include the acronym as well); I'd recommend including the name in full to avoid any confusion.

^ This. It's a convention to note the full name of some initialism before referencing it in abbreviated form.

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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:00 am

States of Glory WA Office wrote:OOC: Just a couple of suggestions from me.

Firstly, having two verbs in Clause Three doesn't sit right with me and I don't see why the clause couldn't be split up.
I'll take another look at that.

Secondly, trying to look up what the IMO was was a pain in the neck as I couldn't find it in Scion's WA bureaucracy guide (as it happens, he included it but forgot to include the acronym as well); I'd recommend including the name in full to avoid any confusion.
Done.. but that might push the length to just over the limit, so I'll probably have to make other changes to balance it.

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Submission now pushed back to the weekend, as that's the next occasion when I'll have time to get things properly organised.
BTW, if I'm using stamps to target all of the delegates how do I address the TG?
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Postby Laeral » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:59 pm

OOC: The telegrams that I've seen addressed to me use 'Honorable Delegate' or 'Esteemed Delegate' or something similar.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:05 pm

Laeral wrote:OOC: The telegrams that I've seen addressed to me use 'Honorable Delegate' or 'Esteemed Delegate' or something similar.

OOC: Whaaaat? All the ones I get are prefaced with "yo, dumbass," or some variation therein.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:35 am

Bears Armed Mission wrote:OOC
Submission now pushed back to the weekend, as that's the next occasion when I'll have time to get things properly organised.
BTW, if I'm using stamps to target all of the delegates how do I address the TG?

I have consistently used,

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FROM: Foreign Office, Greyhall, Londinium

And coached the matter in-character.

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Separatist Peoples wrote:
Laeral wrote:OOC: The telegrams that I've seen addressed to me use 'Honorable Delegate' or 'Esteemed Delegate' or something similar.

OOC: Whaaaat? All the ones I get are prefaced with "yo, dumbass," or some variation therein.

OOC: Maybe that's because people send GenSec members hate mail:
"yo, dumbass, my draft didn't have a category violation"
The telegrams I get are (generally) respectful.

Also, I will support this resolution by approving it and voting in favor once it reaches the GA floor.
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:17 am

OOC: What I meant was, how do I set the TG so that [as long as I have enough stamps] it will be sent to all Delegates? Presumably i don't have to list all of their individual names?
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(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:10 pm

Bears Armed wrote:OOC: What I meant was, how do I set the TG so that [as long as I have enough stamps] it will be sent to all Delegates? Presumably i don't have to list all of their individual names?

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Postby Moronist Decisions » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:00 pm

How would this affect planets and sapient species where ozone plays a different role than on Earth?
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:18 am

Bears Armed wrote:OOC: What I meant was, how do I set the TG so that [as long as I have enough stamps] it will be sent to all Delegates? Presumably i don't have to list all of their individual names?

On the New Telegram screen, click on the pulldown to the right of the "To:" box, then on the "Add:" line click on "Special". The pulldown menu to the right of that includes options such as WA Delegates and WA Members. Be sure to click the box below and select "This is a campaign telegram."

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Postby United Massachusetts » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:24 am

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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:37 am

OOC post

States of Glory WA Office wrote:OOC: Just a couple of suggestions from me.

Firstly, having two verbs in Clause Three doesn't sit right with me and I don't see why the clause couldn't be split up.
I've now taken another look at it. Splitting the clause without dropping anything whose inclusion I considered necessary would almost certainly increase the overall length, but this is pushing the limit already.

Moronist Decisions wrote:How would this affect planets and sapient species where ozone plays a different role than on Earth?
From the FAQ in this thread's first post:
4. What if my nation’s people actually need the higher levels of UV light, and so don’t need an Ozone Layer?
Then presumably your people are on an entire world [or plural worlds] where this is the case, in which case those worlds’ atmospheres are “closed systems from which escapes cannot threaten any other nation’s atmosphere” and IC the committee has to grant you a waiver. (Yes, unfortunately, the OOC effects on your nations’ stats would still happen: The system isn’t sensitive enough to check people’s RP before applying changes…)


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Bears Armed wrote:OOC: What I meant was, how do I set the TG so that [as long as I have enough stamps] it will be sent to all Delegates? Presumably i don't have to list all of their individual names?

On the New Telegram screen, click on the pulldown to the right of the "To:" box, then on the "Add:" line click on "Special". The pulldown menu to the right of that includes options such as WA Delegates and WA Members. Be sure to click the box below and select "This is a campaign telegram."

Thank you.
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Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:14 am

OOC
Re the question from Moronist Decisions:
By the way, in order to naturally not have an Ozone Layer a planet would probably either have to lack a significant level of Oxygen in its atmosphere (because Ozone is simply a form of Oxygen with three atoms, rather than the usual two, per molecule) or lack exposure to strong Ultraviolet light (because that is a major source of energy for the conversion of diatomic Oxygen into Ozone): in the former case, life-forms from those worlds probably couldn't live easily on the planets with atmospheres suitable for Oxygen-breathing species such as humans or bears, and in the latter case species evolving on those worlds would probably have even fewer natural defenses against UV light than species evolving on more Earth-like worlds...
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The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:01 am

Submitted

I am doing a TG campaign for approval (although I had to use Bears Armed itself rather than this nation to send the TG, because it was the one that had the stamps...), but -- if it reaches the floor -- there will not be a further lobbying campaign for the actual vote as well.
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Postby Wolfhawk » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:44 pm

sorry didn't read thru the replies (and have supported already) but is their any current committee that can just do the job instead of setting up a new one?

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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:40 am

Quorum!

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Wolfhawk wrote:sorry didn't read thru the replies (and have supported already) but is their any current committee that can just do the job instead of setting up a new one?
There wasn't an obvious match... but note that the new agency is within the existing WASP (World Assembly Science Programme), rather than totally separate from all of the earlier committees.
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