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[PASSED] Condemn Vandoosa

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:57 am
by Tir-Na-Nog-Ta
Description: The Security Council,

Acknowledging Vandoosa as the founder of the Glorious Nations of Iwaku.

Noting that when it was created, Vandoosa worked tirelessly to recruit and welcome new members into the region, thus bringing it up into the top 30 largest regions of NationStates.

Shocked however, when such a promising nation showed its true colors, and turned to destroying the regions of others, through invasion and slaughter.

Further shocked at the way the young nation readily joined prominent and infamous raiding organisations, in order to help them ruin and ravage the regions of others.

Observing Vandoosa's steep climb through the ranks of the current 2 largest and most active raider organisations - Cimmeria (now The Black Riders) and DEN, in the latter of which it is currently the second highest ranking NCO.

Realizing that the high efficiency of Cimmeria and disgustingly large numbers of tags made by this organisation , could have been avoided without the presence of Vandoosa, who has grown to be the right hand of, and second in command to Cora, the current leader of Cimmeria.

Also realizing, that Vandoosa was once a Captain in The Black Riders, condemned by SC#127. It was while working with TBR, that Vandoosa obtained the current NS point record of 80 delegates ousted from their rightful seat in one update. Since then, Vandoosa has helped to reinstate the organisation and is a TBR Colonel.

Appalled that since becoming a raider Vandoosa has forcefully wrenched delegacy from the rightful rulers of in well over five hundred regions, and has helped others to do so in thousands more. Vandoosa has also participated in five major DEN operations, including the most recent one in the peaceful region of St Abbaddon. There, Vandoosa spearheaded both the major and minor update operations, leading up to the capture of the region by DEN.

Further appalled at Vandoosa's readiness to raid even regions associated with its home region of Iwaku, including the neutral region of Alternate History World, where Vandoosa remains as the current WA Delegate to this point. These actions have also resulted in the severing of any ties with Iwaku, by many disapproving regions, which has greatly influenced the region's inhabitants' ability to interact with the greater political scope of NS.

Horrified at the brutal slaughter of the region of Territory of Finland, in which Vandoosa played a key part, at the time, working with The Greater German Reich which was condemned by SC Resolution #56.

Disgusted that Vandoosa often ridicules the native residents of invaded regions region, flooding the RMB with spam and themed pictures, which reflect badly on those citizens of The Glorious Nations of Iwaku, which are unaware of their founders evildoings.

Concerned that since Vandoosa's degradation, the innocent region of Glorious Nations of Iwaku has begun to fall apart, due to the founder’s lack of attention to the region and its issues, moving down to outside the top 40 largest regions of NationStates.

Understanding the importance of educating those who may seek to join The Glorious Nations of Iwaku in the future, as to the region founder’s true colors.

Wishing that those who may later seek to join the region, will think twice before doing so, having seen the condemned founder, and not wishing to affiliate themselves with such a nation.

Hereby Condemns Vandoosa.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:25 am
by Siberian Districts
I'm confused with your choice of spacing. I don't think you need to split things up mid sentence for no reason whatsoever.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:53 am
by Cimmeria Puppet
You listed uncorrect Finland.. Actually wait I never had relations with that fascist delegate of Territory of Finland!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:26 am
by Consular
Siberian Districts wrote:I'm confused with your choice of spacing. I don't think you need to split things up mid sentence for no reason whatsoever.

They might have pasted it from a word processor with clumsy word wrapping. Notepad does this sort of thing.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:46 am
by We Are Not the NSA
Hehe, Vandy was just complaining that he didn't a condemnation a few days ago.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:52 am
by Bhang Bhang Duc
We Are Not the NSA wrote:Hehe, Vandy was just complaining that he didn't a condemnation a few days ago.

Makes a change - his TWP puppet is always complaining about chickens. :)

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:34 am
by Tir-Na-Nog-Ta
Yeah, I always draft stuff like this on Notepad, and it leaves really annoying breaks in the lines. Should probably start using something a bit more advanced.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:07 pm
by Kaboomlandia
Tir-Na-Nog-Ta wrote:Yeah, I always draft stuff like this on Notepad, and it leaves really annoying breaks in the lines. Should probably start using something a bit more advanced.

NS does have the ability to save drafts, and I find that works fine.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:15 pm
by Godless Munky
This will make Doosa very happy if it passes.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:16 pm
by The Silver Sentinel
Tir-Na-Nog-Ta wrote:Some salty fella told me to do this. He seemed really keen to ridicule my proposal, or at least that's the vibe i got. Lets not disappoint him.

If that was in reference to me, you got the wrong vibe. I was ready to campaign this into queue, and you kind of need your own thread to assure it's passage, which I am hoping for, as it is very well written.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:23 pm
by Consular
Tir-Na-Nog-Ta wrote:Yeah, I always draft stuff like this on Notepad, and it leaves really annoying breaks in the lines. Should probably start using something a bit more advanced.

I use notepad as well, fancy things annoy me. :P If you go full screen then enable the wordwrap it shouldn't do this. This usually only happens if you've got it windowed.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:06 pm
by Tir-Na-Nog-Ta
It's because I instinctively press enter at the end of a line instead of spacing through to the end. Such an annoying habit :P

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:05 pm
by Tim-Opolis
To actually discuss the resolution, rather than the formatting, to be honest, I don't think Vandoosa has done enough to warrant Condemnation. Frankly, some of the points for condemnation are just bad as well. The one for letting Iwaku decline is the most baffling, as being a bad/bored/whatever Founder should not be condemnable. Hell, maybe Vand was just tired of dropping money on stamps every month, recruitment is expensive. As for messing with natives, that's just a commonplace invader thing. The other points are all the standard invader things that don't really seem to inspire much need for condemnation. There's no real stand-out action, you know?

Also, now that it's on the forum can you please change the formatting :P

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:23 am
by Bears Armed
The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Tir-Na-Nog-Ta wrote:Some salty fella told me to do this. He seemed really keen to ridicule my proposal, or at least that's the vibe i got. Lets not disappoint him.

If that was in reference to me, you got the wrong vibe.

I presumed that it was probably in reference to Vandoosa themselves...

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:17 am
by The Silver Sentinel
Bears Armed wrote:
The Silver Sentinel wrote:If that was in reference to me, you got the wrong vibe.

I presumed that it was probably in reference to Vandoosa themselves...

Erm.... No. Vandoosa wants this condemnm so he would have no reason to ridicule it.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:47 am
by Tir-Na-Nog-Ta
OK, I'll change the formatting. And sorry Sentinel, I was just tired and kinda annoyed at the fact that I was doing the "WA walk of shame", by asking to have my proposal to be taken down.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:49 am
by The Silver Sentinel
Tir-Na-Nog-Ta wrote:OK, I'll change the formatting. And sorry Sentinel, I was just tired and kinda annoyed at the fact that I was doing the "WA walk of shame", by asking to have my proposal to be taken down.

We've all done it. There is nothing wrong with asking to have a proposal pulled, to touch it up.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:29 pm
by Ramaeus
The Silver Sentinel wrote:We've all done it. There is nothing wrong with asking to have a proposal pulled, to touch it up.

Yeah, that. I've asked for 2-3 of mine (possibly more) to be pulled. :)

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:51 pm
by Wallenburg
This proposal is illegal for referring to RMBs, and therefore the game of NationStates.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:01 pm
by Niklas Vorteil
Wallenburg wrote:This proposal is illegal for referring to RMBs, and therefore the game of NationStates.

The beginning of the enforcement of that rule began in late-2010, while the resolution to Commend Krulltopia, which passed in 2013, contains a similar clause in referencing the RMB.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:25 pm
by The Silver Sentinel
Wallenburg wrote:This proposal is illegal for referring to RMBs, and therefore the game of NationStates.

No it isn't.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:30 pm
by Tir-Na-Nog-Ta
Wallenburg wrote:This proposal is illegal for referring to RMBs, and therefore the game of NationStates.

I refer to the SC too, which is also an aspect of the game. RMB's are simply a non RP way of talking about regional communication, and in no way links to NS being a game.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:31 pm
by Idzequitch
It's kind of funny how everyone keeps trying to condemn raiders. It's not a punishment to them. It's an affirmation that they've done their job well enough to garner widespread attention.

Opposed.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:05 am
by -Resdayn-
Opposed. Vandoosa is not a raider. And even if he was, he keeps a well maintained and happy region. Everyone should ignore this thread and it's contents.

Only reason anyone would even post this is if they were a nation that got kicked out of glorious nations of iwaku for doing wrong and are miffed at vandoosa for it.

No one wanting to enter iwaku should think twice about it cause there is nothing wrong with the region or its awesome founder, and I am personally appalled that this thread even exists.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:08 am
by Idzequitch
-Resdayn- wrote:Opposed. Vandoosa is not a raider. And even if he was, he keeps a well maintained and happy region. Everyone should ignore this thread and it's contents.

Only reason anyone would even post this is if they were a nation that got kicked out of glorious nations of iwaku for doing wrong and are miffed at vandoosa for it.

No one wanting to enter iwaku should think twice about it cause there is nothing wrong with the region or its awesome founder, and I am personally appalled that this thread even exists.

Vandoosa's participation in raids suggests otherwise.