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Urlskate
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Postby Urlskate » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:22 pm

As the spokesman for the glorious leader of Urlskate himself we must agree to condemn this. The great leader in his benevolence knows that attacking dictatorships and capitalist states to enforce their filthy communist beliefs is an affront to the ideals in which Urlskate stands for. The glorious leader is also wise enough to know that the commendation of the red fleet was another attempt of the communist/socialist Junta that controls the world assembly to enforce its radically anti capitalist views among other members.

This will not stand for the Glorious leader.
From his dominating concrete fortress palace the world will fear the Glorious leader!

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:29 pm

Urlskate wrote:As the spokesman for the glorious leader of Urlskate himself we must agree to condemn this. The great leader in his benevolence knows that attacking dictatorships and capitalist states to enforce their filthy communist beliefs is an affront to the ideals in which Urlskate stands for. The glorious leader is also wise enough to know that the commendation of the red fleet was another attempt of the communist/socialist Junta that controls the world assembly to enforce its radically anti capitalist views among other members.

This will not stand for the Glorious leader.

"Ambassador, I suggest you inform your Glorious Leader' that he is in violation of World Assembly law, and aught to explore standing resolutions, specifically those regarding freedom of speech and religion."
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Postby Ratateague » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:22 am

LAWLOSLOVAKIA wrote:Ugh, all this groupthink.

Right? All these sheeple, and with ~70% of the vote. The cognitive dissonance must be unbearable for you.
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Bastetopia
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Postby Bastetopia » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:53 am

I would enjoy helping out the people that go against Fascism, Nazism and similar ideologies. The more who battle against them, the better.
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The Democratic Empire of Dirt
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Postby The Democratic Empire of Dirt » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:07 am

BPSR wrote:I find it funny how desperate these capitalists are to take us down. You know the majority of NS is left-wing, right?


The majority of politically themed regions actually, not nations. A lot of those regions could just be created by the puppets of nations in The Red Fleet.

I just wanna condemn them for invading non-fascist regions and non-invader regions.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:16 am

LAWLOSLOVAKIA wrote:Ugh, all this groupthink.

I have a feeling that you would say differently if the votes were switched.
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Postby The Democratic Empire of Dirt » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:19 am

Bastetopia wrote:I would enjoy helping out the people that go against Fascism, Nazism and similar ideologies. The more who battle against them, the better.


Nazism exists and you can't really remove something like thst from a game which lots of new people join, someone who's a nazi. Also people who are nazis in NationStates aren't necessarily nazis IRL.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:19 am

The Democratic Empire of Dirt wrote:
BPSR wrote:I find it funny how desperate these capitalists are to take us down. You know the majority of NS is left-wing, right?


The majority of politically themed regions actually, not nations. A lot of those regions could just be created by the puppets of nations in The Red Fleet.

I just wanna condemn them for invading non-fascist regions and non-invader regions.

Actually considering the fact you can only have one WA nation at a time, and that 71% of WA nations voted "for" Commend TRF, that means a majority of players in fact support them, or at the very least are anti-fascist.
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Postby The Democratic Empire of Dirt » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:22 am

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
The Democratic Empire of Dirt wrote:
The majority of politically themed regions actually, not nations. A lot of those regions could just be created by the puppets of nations in The Red Fleet.

I just wanna condemn them for invading non-fascist regions and non-invader regions.

Actually considering the fact you can only have one WA nation at a time, and that 71% of WA nations voted "for" Commend TRF, that means a majority of players in fact support them, or at the very least are anti-fascist.


Did they commend them for invading non-fascist regions just because they have fascist embassies though?

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Postby The Democratic Empire of Dirt » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:26 am

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
The Democratic Empire of Dirt wrote:
The majority of politically themed regions actually, not nations. A lot of those regions could just be created by the puppets of nations in The Red Fleet.

I just wanna condemn them for invading non-fascist regions and non-invader regions.

Actually considering the fact you can only have one WA nation at a time, and that 71% of WA nations voted "for" Commend TRF, that means a majority of players in fact support them, or at the very least are anti-fascist.


Not everyone has a nation in the WA. Actually at one point 100 people I know IRL were playing nationstates and only about 12 had WA nations. :\

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Postby Redsection » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:28 am

I wish to know why the communists must attack innocent fascist Allies ?
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:57 am

The Democratic Empire of Dirt wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:Actually considering the fact you can only have one WA nation at a time, and that 71% of WA nations voted "for" Commend TRF, that means a majority of players in fact support them, or at the very least are anti-fascist.


Not everyone has a nation in the WA. Actually at one point 100 people I know IRL were playing nationstates and only about 12 had WA nations. :\

Well, if someone doesn't have a WA nation, they don't really get to complain about which Resolutions are passed, now do they? Since they had the option to vote on the issue, but didn't, it's on them not the rest of the site. ;)
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Postby Godless Munky » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:11 pm

The Democratic Empire of Dirt wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:Actually considering the fact you can only have one WA nation at a time, and that 71% of WA nations voted "for" Commend TRF, that means a majority of players in fact support them, or at the very least are anti-fascist.


Did they commend them for invading non-fascist regions just because they have fascist embassies though?

Go ask each person who voted for the TRF Commendation & report back. This is important statistical information.
Redsection wrote:I wish to know why the communists must attack innocent fascist Allies ?

For the same reason I fight a dragon every morning, because they don't exist! :unsure:
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Postby Redsection » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:13 pm

Godless Munky wrote:
The Democratic Empire of Dirt wrote:
Did they commend them for invading non-fascist regions just because they have fascist embassies though?

Go ask each person who voted for the TRF Commendation & report back. This is important statistical information.
Redsection wrote:I wish to know why the communists must attack innocent fascist Allies ?

For the same reason I fight a dragon every morning, because they don't exist! :unsure:


But they do,all fascists are not your enemies.
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Agree 2 Valvendia

Postby Al-Hind Indus » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:17 pm

Support u
Valvendia wrote:
Recognizing the numerous raids conducted by The Red Fleet against: capitalist, fascist, and imperialistic regions;

Further recognizing the countless regions held hostage, threatened, and destroyed due to their political stance, by The Red Fleet;

Noting that these regions were raided regardless of their activity or neutrality;

Further noting the blatant and inexcusable persecution and intolerance of capitalists, fascist, and imperialistic regions, at the hands of The Red Fleet;

Appalled that not only has the Security Council not condemned the region, but in fact commends them;

Believing that the actions conducted by The Red Fleet are motivated by prejudice and intolerance;

Convinced that The Red Fleet will only continue to cause more destruction and dismay to other innocent regions, unless action is taken;

Further believing it is The Security Councils duty to condemn a destructive, prejudice, and dictatorial region, to further preserve and protect the political rights of all nations and regions.

Hereby condemns The Red Fleet.


This was my recent proposal to condemn The Red Fleet, it recently got taken down.
I was hoping someone could point out the mistakes, or why it was taken down, and maybe how to correct it, as it is something I'd like to follow through with.
Thank you.
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Postby Godless Munky » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:28 pm

Redsection wrote:
Godless Munky wrote:Go ask each person who voted for the TRF Commendation & report back. This is important statistical information.

For the same reason I fight a dragon every morning, because they don't exist! :unsure:


But they do,all fascists are not your enemies.

In what alternate universe?
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Postby Redsection » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:30 pm

Godless Munky wrote:
Redsection wrote:
But they do,all fascists are not your enemies.

In what alternate universe?


Ask some that I have spoken with.

Here is one.

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Postby Ratateague » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:02 pm

Redsection wrote:
Godless Munky wrote:In what alternate universe?


Ask some that I have spoken with.

Here is one.

(memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=591586)

1. They identify as a Luxemburgist and communist sympathizer in their sig.
2. They reside in The Internationale.
3. The discussion in the RMB that I've been following for weeks alludes to everything but fascism.
4. Let them speak for themselves.

I get it though. You're just following orders and trying your best to turn lefties against each other.
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Postby Chostea » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:18 pm

How on earth this resolution is not only being rejected, but so fiercely is beyond me. Disgusting. Nice propaganda, reds, you've clearly got everyone fooled.
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:21 pm

Chostea wrote:How on earth this resolution is not only being rejected, but so fiercely is beyond me. Disgusting. Nice propaganda, reds, you've clearly got everyone fooled.

Could be because it's not very well-written. At least, that's why I voted against it. I'll vote against every such proposal regardless of ideology.

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Postby Redsection » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:24 pm

Ratateague wrote:
Redsection wrote:
Ask some that I have spoken with.

Here is one.

(memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=591586)

1. They identify as a Luxemburgist and communist sympathizer in their sig.
2. They reside in The Internationale.
3. The discussion in the RMB that I've been following for weeks alludes to everything but fascism.
4. Let them speak for themselves.

I get it though. You're just following orders and trying your best to turn lefties against each other.


You are very misguided.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:35 pm

Chostea wrote:How on earth this resolution is not only being rejected, but so fiercely is beyond me. Disgusting. Nice propaganda, reds, you've clearly got everyone fooled.

Funny, since the opponents of this resolution have launched no countercampaign, whereas its proponents promptly sent out a mass propaganda piece to every World Assembly delegation.

Get your fucking facts straight.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:38 pm

Redsection wrote:
Ratateague wrote:1. They identify as a Luxemburgist and communist sympathizer in their sig.
2. They reside in The Internationale.
3. The discussion in the RMB that I've been following for weeks alludes to everything but fascism.
4. Let them speak for themselves.

I get it though. You're just following orders and trying your best to turn lefties against each other.

You are very misguided.

Even if he was, it appears that the pot is calling the kettle black.
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

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Postby Wrapper » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:48 pm

Wallenburg wrote:...whereas its proponents promptly sent out a mass propaganda piece to the entire World Assembly.

They did? I didn't see anything, except the delegate TG asking for approval three days ago.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:55 pm

Wrapper wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:...whereas its proponents promptly sent out a mass propaganda piece to the entire World Assembly.

They did? I didn't see anything, except the delegate TG asking for approval three days ago.

Oh, that's what I meant. I guess I only saw it after it went to vote.
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

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