Imperium Anglorum wrote:Yea, that isn't happening.
OOC: I appreciate that. I still think this committee needs to be removed never to be spoken of again for OOC reasons, so I'm voting no on this one, Sorry.
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by United Irish Counties » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:23 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Yea, that isn't happening.
by Gremlinsburg » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:57 am
by Imperium Anglorum » Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:28 am
The laws of some countries, who may not be World Assembly members, may require a person to renounce their citizenship with their current country before pursuing citizenship with another. The clause in the resolution, "Prohibits nations from depriving a national of their nationality should such an action leave that national stateless," could be interpreted to mean that a state could not accept a person's renunciation, as it would leave the person stateless during the change in citizenship, which may not be guaranteed by the new nation.
by Frances Francis the First of France » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:28 am
by Bears Armed » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:54 am
Gremlinsburg wrote:This also opens yet another door for corruption where the GESTAPO can assign passports that could state a person is from any nation in the WA.
by MuhFreedomville » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:40 am
by LollerLand » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:49 am
After discussing with our community The Universal Allegiance has decided to vote FOR this proposal
Lollerland
WA Delegate
by Imperium Anglorum » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:58 am
MuhFreedomville wrote:The individuals of MuhFreedomville in divided individuality unanimously vote against this resolution. Our rights are secured by our country and our sovereignty will not be infringed upon by international powers. If countries deny rights to their own citizens, it is up to those people within their countries to solve their own problems. Voluntary associations with GESTAPO are the only interactions that are legitimate and forcing nations' compliance is entirely immoral.
by MuhFreedomville » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:30 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:MuhFreedomville wrote:The individuals of MuhFreedomville in divided individuality unanimously vote against this resolution. Our rights are secured by our country and our sovereignty will not be infringed upon by international powers. If countries deny rights to their own citizens, it is up to those people within their countries to solve their own problems. Voluntary associations with GESTAPO are the only interactions that are legitimate and forcing nations' compliance is entirely immoral.
PARSONS: Then resign from the WA. All actions taken by the WA are legitimate because you have consented into the World Assembly structure. What you're doing is like joining a sports club and then complaining that you have to abide by club regulations and pay dues.
by Wealthatonia » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:50 am
by Northeast North Korea » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:18 pm
by Imperium Anglorum » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:27 pm
by Mediobogdum » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:57 pm
by Wealthatonia » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:00 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:So it seems that the nations which don't respect human rights are clamouring against this resolution which forces people to respect, in some fashion, human rights. I can't really say I am convinced.
by MuhFreedomville » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:39 pm
Wealthatonia wrote:Imperium Anglorum wrote:So it seems that the nations which don't respect human rights are clamouring against this resolution which forces people to respect, in some fashion, human rights. I can't really say I am convinced.
what does this have to do with human rights? they can be free to join another nation.
by States of Glory WA Office » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:25 pm
Mediobogdum wrote:However has this GA Proposal got this far? Surely with:
"Expands the remit of the Global Emigration, Security, Travel And Passport Organisation, hereafter referred as the Passport Organisation, to include the issuance of World Assembly identification documents and passports to the former nationals of member states who have been deprived of their nationality by their government;"
this should have failed to get to a vote at any stage?
by Silky Smooth » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:37 pm
by Wallenburg » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:45 pm
Mediobogdum wrote:However has this GA Proposal got this far? Surely with:
"Expands the remit of the Global Emigration, Security, Travel And Passport Organisation, hereafter referred as the Passport Organisation, to include the issuance of World Assembly identification documents and passports to the former nationals of member states who have been deprived of their nationality by their government;"
this should have failed to get to a vote at any stage?
by Wealthatonia » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:51 pm
by Sandaoguo » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:23 am
by Wealthatonia » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:12 am
Sandaoguo wrote:This is an otherwise great resolution. Unfortunately, the use of "GESTAPO" is unacceptably offensive, and I cannot in good conscience support the extension of its offensiveness into more resolutions.
by Sandaoguo » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:50 am
Wealthatonia wrote:Sandaoguo wrote:This is an otherwise great resolution. Unfortunately, the use of "GESTAPO" is unacceptably offensive, and I cannot in good conscience support the extension of its offensiveness into more resolutions.
there is nothing good about this resolution, Why should a citizen who has not lived or worked in their original country for years be regarded as that nation's citizen? they're not contributing to the economy of that nation at all.
by Wallenburg » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:02 pm
Sandaoguo wrote:This is an otherwise great resolution. Unfortunately, the use of "GESTAPO" is unacceptably offensive, and I cannot in good conscience support the extension of its offensiveness into more resolutions.
Wallenburg wrote:The GESTAPO was created by another resolution. This resolution simply uses it because it is the appropriate committee for the job.
Wealthatonia wrote:there is nothing good about this resolution, Why should a citizen who has not lived or worked in their original country for years be regarded as that nation's citizen? they're not contributing to the economy of that nation at all.
by G0P » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:14 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Sandaoguo wrote:This is an otherwise great resolution. Unfortunately, the use of "GESTAPO" is unacceptably offensive, and I cannot in good conscience support the extension of its offensiveness into more resolutions.Wallenburg wrote:The GESTAPO was created by another resolution. This resolution simply uses it because it is the appropriate committee for the job.Wealthatonia wrote:there is nothing good about this resolution, Why should a citizen who has not lived or worked in their original country for years be regarded as that nation's citizen? they're not contributing to the economy of that nation at all.
Perhaps they should be considered a citizen because they are one?
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