[PASSED] Cyber Security Convention

[Tinfect]

Seriously? Was a pedantic comment really necessary? It literally takes about a minute to join the WA.

Perhaps because the impression of a nation writing legislation while outside the body that would be regulated by your resolution seems hypocritical to an extreme?

In fact, I think I shall vote against this solely due to the conviction that you will quit the WA after passing your legislation.

OOC:
Just to clarify, JT is a puppet specifically, of the United Federation of Canada, which, is the Nation he usually proposes with, if I remember correctly.

[John Turner]

Seriously? Was a pedantic comment really necessary? It literally takes about a minute to join the WA.

Perhaps because the impression of a nation writing legislation while outside the body that would be regulated by your resolution seems hypocritical to an extreme?

In fact, I think I shall vote against this solely due to the conviction that you will quit the WA after passing your legislation.

OOC: The reason this nation is not in the WA, is because I am active in military gameplay which requires moving my WA around quite often. Am I to be punished and barred from drafting WA legislation because of that?

[Dooom35796821595]

Perhaps because the impression of a nation writing legislation while outside the body that would be regulated by your resolution seems hypocritical to an extreme?

In fact, I think I shall vote against this solely due to the conviction that you will quit the WA after passing your legislation.

OOC: The reason this nation is not in the WA, is because I am active in military gameplay which requires moving my WA around quite often. Am I to be punished and barred from drafting WA legislation because of that?

No, you lose votes due to appearances and lashing out at those who ask why non WA nations are proposing legislation.

[Wallenburg]

Perhaps because the impression of a nation writing legislation while outside the body that would be regulated by your resolution seems hypocritical to an extreme?

In fact, I think I shall vote against this solely due to the conviction that you will quit the WA after passing your legislation.

OOC:
Just to clarify, JT is a puppet specifically, of the United Federation of Canada, which, is the Nation he usually proposes with, if I remember correctly.

OOC: He propose a repeal of "Preserving Antimicrobials" and "Civilan Aircraft Accord" with JT.

[John Turner]

OOC:
Just to clarify, JT is a puppet specifically, of the United Federation of Canada, which, is the Nation he usually proposes with, if I remember correctly.

OOC: He propose a repeal of "Preserving Antimicrobials" and "Civilan Aircraft Accord" with JT.

Correct. I use my Ambassador nation to propose legislation the same as I did with Chester and Jean Pierre Trudeau.

No, you lose votes due to appearances and lashing out at those who ask why non WA nations are proposing legislation.

How is this even remotely relevant to the draft at hand? I would appreciate this not turning into a massive threadjack over non-wa nations drafting legislation please.

[Wallenburg]

Firmly believing that all member nations need to protect themselves from the perils of the of cyber terrorism, and those that don't risk damage not only to themselves, but to their international trading partners and allies as well;

"Don't' is also quite informal for a piece of international legislation. Lastly, Wallenburg does not need to protect herself from cyber terrorism, and risks no damage to herself or others due to neglecting protections against it. I suggest that you weaken 'all member nations' to 'most' or 'many member nations'."

Thus resolving to enact a sensible policy that allows for the safe usage of cyber technology, whist also ensuring the security of the information contained within that technology;

For the purposes of this convention defines...Cyber technology as computers, software systems, applications or services, electronic communications systems, networks, or services, and the information contained therein,

"This listing is quite confusing, and appears to define all services as cyber technology."

"Overall, we can support the purpose of this proposal. However, it could certainly use some revisions."

[Araraukar]

Perhaps because the impression of a nation writing legislation while outside the body that would be regulated by your resolution seems hypocritical to an extreme?

OOC: I have to side with UFoC on this; since WA status is easy to swap between accounts, it shouldn't be used against the author.

In fact, I think I shall vote against this solely due to the conviction that you will quit the WA after passing your legislation.

That's your prerogative, but you should then also exclude all the people who ever partake Gameplay...

[Araraukar]

OOC: In case you really did put Wallenburg on your foe list, I'm quoting his post where he makes some actually helpful comments about your draft.

Firmly believing that all member nations need to protect themselves from the perils of the of cyber terrorism, and those that don't risk damage not only to themselves, but to their international trading partners and allies as well;

"Don't' is also quite informal for a piece of international legislation. Lastly, Wallenburg does not need to protect herself from cyber terrorism, and risks no damage to herself or others due to neglecting protections against it. I suggest that you weaken 'all member nations' to 'most' or 'many member nations'."

Thus resolving to enact a sensible policy that allows for the safe usage of cyber technology, whist also ensuring the security of the information contained within that technology;

For the purposes of this convention defines...Cyber technology as computers, software systems, applications or services, electronic communications systems, networks, or services, and the information contained therein,

"This listing is quite confusing, and appears to define all services as cyber technology."

"Overall, we can support the purpose of this proposal. However, it could certainly use some revisions."

[Dooom35796821595]

Perhaps because the impression of a nation writing legislation while outside the body that would be regulated by your resolution seems hypocritical to an extreme?

OOC: I have to side with UFoC on this; since WA status is easy to swap between accounts, it shouldn't be used against the author.

In fact, I think I shall vote against this solely due to the conviction that you will quit the WA after passing your legislation.

That's your prerogative, but you should then also exclude all the people who ever partake Gameplay...

It's not so much the WA status, rather the appearance given when instead of explaining the situation, UFoC just insulted the individual who asked it, and acting rather aggressively when he finally does explain it. Lack of diplomacy losing him potentual support.

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: I have to side with UFoC on this; since WA status is easy to swap between accounts, it shouldn't be used against the author.


That's your prerogative, but you should then also exclude all the people who ever partake Gameplay...

It's not so much the WA status, rather the appearance given when instead of explaining the situation, UFoC just insulted the individual who asked it, and acting rather aggressively when he finally does explain it. Lack of diplomacy losing him potentual support.

OOC: Then call it what it is: You don't like the author, so you're voting against.

[Araraukar]

It's not so much the WA status, rather the appearance given when instead of explaining the situation, UFoC just insulted the individual who asked it, and acting rather aggressively when he finally does explain it. Lack of diplomacy losing him potentual support.

OOC: Please mark your OOC posts as OOC, so I'll know how to address them. I'm confused whether the above is IC or OOC.

OOC: Then call it what it is: You don't like the author, so you're voting against.

^This.

[John Turner]

Just bumping this up before it it sent to the floor.

[John Turner]

And this has been sent to the floor.

[Ratateague]

I've been looking forward to some sort of information security bill for some time. If this doesn't reach quorum, I'd like to help you in the drafting process (and I have some background in the subject).

[John Turner]

I see Vancouvia's policy of APPROVING EVERY PROPOSAL only applies if you are not me. Good to know.

8 hours ago: John Turner submitted a proposal to the General Assembly International Security Board entitled "Cyber Security Convention"

4 hours ago: Vancouvia was ranked in the Top 1% of the world for Most Developed.
5 hours ago: Vancouvia lodged a message on the The Western Isles Regional Message Board.
6 hours ago: Vancouvia endorsed The Queendom of Arttemisia.
8 hours ago: Vancouvia endorsed The Republic of Masimau.

One can't say he just didn't get around to it, because he was quite active after it was submitted.

[Wallenburg]

OOC: Currently, nothing on the second page has Vancouvia's approval. If you are going to engage in a personal attack, at least make sure it's accurate.

[The Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper]

I see Vancouvia's policy of APPROVING EVERY PROPOSAL only applies if you are not me. Good to know.

It's not just you, sir. The Vancouvian ambassador refused to endorse our recent proposal as well. Something about us being... what was that word, Wad Ahume? "Leet"? Anyway, you have our approval. Good luck.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Parsons: Ignoring elements with relation to the relationship between our two nations, an approval has been dispatched on the merits of this proposal.

[John Turner]

OOC: Currently, nothing on the second page has Vancouvia's approval. If you are going to engage in a personal attack, at least make sure it's accurate.

And now it's on the first page, and yet still no Vancouvia approval.

Parsons: Ignoring elements with relation to the relationship between our two nations, an approval has been dispatched on the merits of this proposal.

You have The Federations gratitude sir.

[John Turner]

And we're voting. Thank you to all the Delegates that approved this.

[Wallenburg]

You didn't remove the typos? You couldn't possibly spend five seconds to remove the typos? Voting AGAINST.

[John Turner]

You didn't remove the typos? You couldn't possibly spend five seconds to remove the typos? Voting AGAINST.

I go out of my way to be nice and cordial to you, and you come back with yet another snide ass comment. As it now stands diplomatic relations (what there were of them) are hereby terminated between the Wallenburgers and The Federation. (i.e. You are now permanently on the ignore list).

[Excidium Planetis]

"I find it extremely hard to believe that this resolution will boost military and police budgets. It limits the capabilities of the military and security agencies to act against non-government persons or organizations, which would reduce cyber security spending.

"Also, as it would ban complete sections of Excidian national security, which relies on retaliatory strikes against hackers, I cast my vote against and urge my fellow WA members to do the same."

[John Turner]

"I find it extremely hard to believe that this resolution will boost military and police budgets. It limits the capabilities of the military and security agencies to act against non-government persons or organizations, which would reduce cyber security spending.

Requires member nations to outlaw the practice of cyber terrorism, and to actively pursue and prosecute individuals or groups actively engaging in or promoting cyber terrorism by any means necessary;

Pretty much gives nations free reign to use up to and including massive military force to pursue and prosecute cyber terrorists.

"Also, as it would ban complete sections of Excidian national security, which relies on retaliatory strikes against hackers, I cast my vote against and urge my fellow WA members to do the same."

The disingenuous nature of this statement almost boggles the mind. Hackers would no longer be no not-combatants any longer now would they? If they are hacking, they are now engaging in cyber warfare.

[Excidium Planetis]

Requires member nations to outlaw the practice of cyber terrorism, and to actively pursue and prosecute individuals or groups actively engaging in or promoting cyber terrorism by any means necessary;

Pretty much gives nations free reign to use up to and including massive military force to pursue and prosecute cyber terrorists.

"Pretty much bans nations from using 'cyber terrorism' against cyber terrorists, which is how we operate on Reckoner."

The disingenuous nature of this statement almost boggles the mind. Hackers would no longer be no not-combatants any longer now would they? If they are hacking, they are now engaging in cyber warfare.

"Bull****. Let's see the resolution draft, shall we?"

For the purposes of this convention defines:

• Cyber warfare as actions by a nation to penetrate the computers or networks of another nation for the purposes of causing damage or disruption to combatant targets and their supporting infrastructure,

"Individual hackers not affiliated with a nation are not engaging in cyber warfare. Hell, even ones who are affiliated with nation are not engaging in cyber warfare if they attack only non-combat targets."