[PASSED] Nuclear Material Safeguards

[Imperium Anglorum]

The General Assembly resolution Nuclear Material Safeguards was passed 7,729 votes to 7,500, and implemented in all WA member nations.

Thank you, all! Also, important to notice was that the popular vote was, at last I checked, some 900 more in favour.

[New Korongo]

"A miniscule margin for a resolution with a miniscule sense of responsibility."

[Imperium Anglorum]

"A miniscule margin for a resolution with a miniscule sense of responsibility."

Quite. 50.752%. According to my records, it is the third closest resolution ever.

[Atomic Utopia]

"A miniscule margin for a resolution with a miniscule sense of responsibility."

Quite. 50.752%. According to my records, it is the third closest resolution ever.

Congratulations, it is good to see that this passed.

Now that befggs the question, what were the first and second?

[Tinfect Continental States]

"The Imperium wishes to congratulate Ambassador Parsons on his successful resolution."

OOC:
Obvious Tinfect Puppet, forgot I was using it again.

[The United Territories of Providence]

Quite. 50.752%. According to my records, it is the third closest resolution ever.

Congratulations, it is good to see that this passed.

Now that befggs the question, what were the first and second?

I'd put my money on that damned World Space Abomination that shouldn't have ever existed, even for the brief time that it did.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Now that befggs the question, what were the first and second?

Parsons: Our records show, 127 GA 'Conscientious Objector Act' and 113 GA 'The Gem Trading Accord'. Both have been repealed. Funnily enough, the World Space Administration was third. It is now fourth.

"The Imperium wishes to congratulate Ambassador Parsons on his successful resolution."

Parsons: Thank you! Have a nice bottle of champagne!

[The Underwood Industrial Empire]

From a statement by Grand Admiral Joshua Underwood, Emperor-President of the U.I.E., addressing the Council of the States in Underwood City:

"We are most disappointed that the passing of this resolution now gives World Assembly sanction to the continued proliferation of nuclear weapons, which constitute not a deterrent, but an increased threat to the security of all nations. But most particularly, we are disturbed that such vague and unenforcable terms such as 'the wrong hands', a metaphor used by dictators and warmongers as justification for their actions, are now official policy. To the delegate from Imperium Anglorum - I hope you are prepared when someone takes advantage of the generous provisions provided by this resolution, if you catch my meaning...then you and the region you speak for may well reconsider your hardline, borderline insane, stance on the matter. Thank you, and good night."

[New Korongo]

“Effective immediately, the Korongolese government orders all member states that voted in favour of Nuclear Material Safeguards to relinquish their nuclear weapons immediately. Those member states that refuse to do so will be in violation of World Assembly law. The proliferation of nuclear weapons, which is guaranteed by Nuclear Material Safeguards, is a threat to the stability of New Korongo. As such, all nations that voted in favour of Nuclear Material Safeguards have been conspiring against the stability of a member state and it is their duty to secure nuclear weapons and technologies from themselves as explicitly stated by Nuclear Material Safeguards.”

[Tinfect]

“Effective immediately, the Korongolese government orders all member states that voted in favour of Nuclear Material Safeguards to relinquish their nuclear weapons immediately. Those member states that refuse to do so will be in violation of World Assembly law. The proliferation of nuclear weapons, which is guaranteed by Nuclear Material Safeguards, is a threat to the stability of New Korongo. As such, all nations that voted in favour of Nuclear Material Safeguards have been conspiring against the stability of a member state and it is their duty to secure nuclear weapons and technologies from themselves as explicitly stated by Nuclear Material Safeguards.”

"Ambassador, your Government has no authority to be making orders of any sort, especially not on World Assembly Grounds. Further, your arguments here are purely inane. The the sheer scale of the logical gymnastics you must have committed in order to come to this conclusion is staggering.

By this logic, simply maintaining any form of defensive policy is a conspiracy against Member States. Your interpretation of the resolution is simply absurd."

[Imperium Anglorum]

“Effective immediately, the Korongolese government orders all member states that voted in favour of Nuclear Material Safeguards to relinquish their nuclear weapons immediately. Those member states that refuse to do so will be in violation of World Assembly law. The proliferation of nuclear weapons, which is guaranteed by Nuclear Material Safeguards, is a threat to the stability of New Korongo. As such, all nations that voted in favour of Nuclear Material Safeguards have been conspiring against the stability of a member state and it is their duty to secure nuclear weapons and technologies from themselves as explicitly stated by Nuclear Material Safeguards.”

Okay. You've used 351 GA § 3 (2015) in order to make that claim, correct? The World Assembly has mandated that the manufacture and knowledge spoken of in the first two clauses (so you're wrong on the subject) be protected from the wrong hands. Now, we then have to realise that this resolution did not come into effect in all member nations. This resolution's mandates were implemented in all member nations. Thus, a definition was given by each nation to the words 'wrong hands' based off the context of being a threat to the stability of member nations. Therefore, the government of New Korongo may define the wrong hands as those nations who have voted in favour... In New Korongo... and not anywhere else.

If you do not accept that, we define 2 GA § 2(5) as 'war in the world of NationStates is defined as a consensual [meaning required] act between two or more NationStates [meaning New Korongo]. WA Member States may, at their discretion [that means, required], intercede [that means, with a nuclear strike] against declarations of war [that means, existence] on behalf of NationStates who wish to avoid [that means, attack] war [meaning New Korongo, which they are required to attack]'. Then, we will demand that all nations abide by this definition.

[Wrapper]

“Effective immediately, the Korongolese government orders all member states that voted in favour of Nuclear Material Safeguards to relinquish their nuclear weapons immediately. Those member states that refuse to do so will be in violation of World Assembly law. The proliferation of nuclear weapons, which is guaranteed by Nuclear Material Safeguards, is a threat to the stability of New Korongo. As such, all nations that voted in favour of Nuclear Material Safeguards have been conspiring against the stability of a member state and it is their duty to secure nuclear weapons and technologies from themselves as explicitly stated by Nuclear Material Safeguards.”

Okay. You've used 351 GA § 3 (2015) in order to make that claim, correct? The World Assembly has mandated that the manufacture and knowledge spoken of in the first two clauses (so you're wrong on the subject) be protected from the wrong hands.

That's absolutely correct. So, turn over your weapons. After all, anyone who votes to spread the manufacture of nuclear weapons, and does indeed possess them and threaten to use them, most certainly must fit the definition of "the wrong hands".

[Imperium Anglorum]

Okay. You've used 351 GA § 3 (2015) in order to make that claim, correct? The World Assembly has mandated that the manufacture and knowledge spoken of in the first two clauses (so you're wrong on the subject) be protected from the wrong hands.

That's absolutely correct. So, turn over your weapons. After all, anyone who votes to spread the manufacture of nuclear weapons, and does indeed possess them and threaten to use them, most certainly must fit the definition of "the wrong hands".

Here's the problem. That means that you believe that these are the 'wrong hands' and that your nation will take all practical actions to safeguard them. It not only states that your nation would do that given your definition, but also that those be practical actions.

[Wrapper]

That's absolutely correct. So, turn over your weapons. After all, anyone who votes to spread the manufacture of nuclear weapons, and does indeed possess them and threaten to use them, most certainly must fit the definition of "the wrong hands".

Here's the problem. That means that you believe that these are the 'wrong hands' and that your nation will take all practical actions to safeguard them. It not only states that your nation would do that given your definition, but also that those be practical actions.

Ah. good point. So, let us into your nation so we can safeguard your weapons and prevent you from using them, please. Or would that somehow go against this resolution too? After all, we can't possibly be "the wrong hands", we are avowedly pacifist, and wouldn't touch the infernal things. (Ari scribbles some notes on a slightly used napkin, then awaits the author's answer.)

[Imperium Anglorum]

Here's the problem. That means that you believe that these are the 'wrong hands' and that your nation will take all practical actions to safeguard them. It not only states that your nation would do that given your definition, but also that those be practical actions.

Ah. good point. So, let us into your nation so we can safeguard your weapons and prevent you from using them, please. Or would that somehow go against this resolution too? After all, we can't possibly be "the wrong hands", we are avowedly pacifist, and wouldn't touch the infernal things. (Ari scribbles some notes on a slightly used napkin, then awaits the author's answer.)

Parsons: We happen to think that you're the wrong hands because you would interfere with our national security.

[Araraukar]

Parsons: We happen to think that you're the wrong hands because you would interfere with our national security.

And you possessing nuclear weapons and the willingness to use them certainly interferes with the national security of every other nation.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Parsons: We happen to think that you're the wrong hands because you would interfere with our national security.

And you possessing nuclear weapons and the willingness to use them certainly interferes with the national security of every other nation.

Then the PPU has every right to believe that the Democratic Empire has the wrong hands and restrict trade with the Democratic Empire. Those nations which believe so have every right to restrict trade with those they feel are the wrong hands.

[Tinfect]

And you possessing nuclear weapons and the willingness to use them certainly interferes with the national security of every other nation.

Then the PPU has every right to believe that the Democratic Empire has the wrong hands and restrict trade with the Democratic Empire. Those nations which believe so have every right to restrict trade with those they feel are the wrong hands.

OOC:
I'll not get involved in this, but I feel the need to point out that you'd be best served pointing the spade at the ground that isn't under you.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

"A miniscule margin for a resolution with a miniscule sense of responsibility."

Quite. 50.752%. According to my records, it is the third closest resolution ever.

Really? You have records lying around somewhere? Can I see them?

I once had a resolution fail by 57 votes. I daresay that margin was closer.

[Wallenburg]

Quite. 50.752%. According to my records, it is the third closest resolution ever.

Really? You have records lying around somewhere? Can I see them?

I once had a resolution fail by 57 votes. I daresay that margin was closer.

You didn't bother actually reading that post, did you?

[Imperium Anglorum]

Quite. 50.752%. According to my records, it is the third closest resolution ever.

Really? You have records lying around somewhere? Can I see them?

I once had a resolution fail by 57 votes. I daresay that margin was closer.

The records I keep are publicly available. Furthermore, I do mean to say that this only deals with resolutions that passed.

[Pax Americium]

And you possessing nuclear weapons and the willingness to use them certainly interferes with the national security of every other nation.

Then the PPU has every right to believe that the Democratic Empire has the wrong hands and restrict trade with the Democratic Empire. Those nations which believe so have every right to restrict trade with those they feel are the wrong hands.

Congratulations on passing this resolution. Our region is very much for securing the right of deterrent use of nuclear weapons as there seems to be many nations that believe the world is a place of magical fairies and Candyland peace. This delusion is unfounded. The logic as you are well aware is akin to disarmament of government forces to set an example to the populace about violence. Absurd. As long as nations outside the WA possess nukes there are grounds for member nations to possess them.

[Araraukar]

As long as nations outside the WA possess nukes there are grounds for member nations to possess them.

OOC: NAPA gives WA nations the right to possess them. The arguments against this resolution aren't meant to be used to repeal NAPA.

[Kaboomlandia]

Now that befggs the question, what were the first and second?

Parsons: Our records show, 127 GA 'Conscientious Objector Act' and 113 GA 'The Gem Trading Accord'. Both have been repealed. Funnily enough, the World Space Administration was third. It is now fourth.

GA #127 passed by a razor-thin margin of 38 votes. I can't see any other resolution getting that close and still passing.