[PASSED] Nuclear Material Safeguards

[Wallenburg]

"I feel comfortable with approving this proposal, Ambassador."

[Imperium Anglorum]

"I feel comfortable with approving this proposal, Ambassador."

Parsons: Thank you, Your Excellency.

[Wallenburg]

"I feel comfortable with approving this proposal, Ambassador."

Parsons: Thank you, Your Excellency.

"My...Excellency?" Trevanyika whispers to an intern and nods at the response. "Oh, I see. You're welcome, fellow Ambassador."

[Imperium Anglorum]

Parsons: Thank you, Your Excellency.

"My...Excellency?" Trevanyika whispers to an intern and nods at the response. "Oh, I see. You're welcome, fellow Ambassador."

Parsons: In the diplomatic traditions of the Democratic Empire, ambassadors are excellent, Your Excellency.

[Wallenburg]

"My...Excellency?" Trevanyika whispers to an intern and nods at the response. "Oh, I see. You're welcome, fellow Ambassador."

Parsons: In the diplomatic traditions of the Democratic Empire, ambassadors are excellent, Your Excellency.

"I'm not quite an ambassador, but in any case, this has little to do with your proposal soon to go to vote."

[Wrapper]

"Oh, I see. You're welcome, fellow Ambassador."

"I'm not quite an ambassador

OOC: Is Helen drunk again?

[Wrapper]

Ambassador, while this version is far less objectionable, we shall have to vote against this. Security and safeguards are fine, but speaking as a pacifist state we cannot in good conscience register a vote in favor of a resolution that explicitly reaffirms the right to possess and use nuclear weapons.

[Normlpeople]

"Well, since the repeal made my last comments null and void" Clover said with a chuckle "This is back in play. I have no immediate objections to the updated draft and see no reason to oppose it when it comes to vote. Endorsed and supported."

[Imperium Anglorum]

"Well, since the repeal made my last comments null and void" Clover said with a chuckle "This is back in play. I have no immediate objections to the updated draft and see no reason to oppose it when it comes to vote. Endorsed and supported."

Parsons: Yes. We got the metaphorical water you spoke of flowing again. Thank you, Your Excellency.

[Goddess Relief Office]

There's a lot more room to improve this proposal, especially the language. It's unfortunate you hadn't gotten help in that area before submitting this.

Observing that there are more than six times more non-WA nations than member nations and believing that such protections are necessary for the security of member nations,

What the? "Observing that there are more than six times more" ? There's something wrong with the grammar.

The correct way of writing that clause is:
"Observing that there are six times more non-member nations than member nations..."

Or

"Observing that non-member nations are six times more than member nations."

As a side note, the "that" in "Observing that" is not necessary.


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Concerned that there does not yet exist any legislation to protect the manufacture of nuclear weapons from being banned by the World Assembly,

Nothing spectacularly wrong here except the sentence could be more plainly written as:

"Concerned there are no legislation to protect..."



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Maintains the right of member nations to manufacture and trade nuclear weapons or reactors, to possess the materials required in such manufacture, and to acquire the materials required in such manufacture;

Again your clause is needlessly verbose. Why can't you simply say:

"Maintains the right of member nations to acquire, manufacture, and trade nuclear weapons or reactors"

(Possession is implied, there's no need to grant the right to possess when you're able to acquire, manufacture, and trade them.)

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Maintains the right of member nations to have knowledge of the manufacture and trade of nuclear weapons or reactors, to possess such knowledge, and to acquire such knowledge;

Same problem. Don't repeat for the sake of repeating. Modern legislation don't do that any more. Since the 90s there's been a huge trend in legal and urban planning fields to simply language to make legislation more accessible to the public. To borrow a quote from Mies van der Rohe: "Less is more."

Simply say:
"Maintains the right of member nations to acquire and transfer nuclear technology."

I'll stop here. I hope you consider redrafting this.

~GRO~

[Imperium Anglorum]

There's a lot more room to improve this proposal, especially the language. It's unfortunate you hadn't gotten help in that area before submitting this.

Observing that there are more than six times more non-WA nations than member nations and believing that such protections are necessary for the security of member nations,

What the? "Observing that there are more than six times more" ? There's something wrong with the grammar.

The correct way of writing that clause is:
"Observing that there are six times more non-member nations than member nations..."

Or

"Observing that non-member nations are six times more than member nations."

As a side note, the "that" in "Observing that" is not necessary.


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Concerned that there does not yet exist any legislation to protect the manufacture of nuclear weapons from being banned by the World Assembly,

Nothing spectacularly wrong here except the sentence could be more plainly written as:

"Concerned there are no legislation to protect..."



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Maintains the right of member nations to manufacture and trade nuclear weapons or reactors, to possess the materials required in such manufacture, and to acquire the materials required in such manufacture;

Again your clause is needlessly verbose. Why can't you simply say:

"Maintains the right of member nations to acquire, manufacture, and trade nuclear weapons or reactors"

(Possession is implied, there's no need to grant the right to possess when you're able to acquire, manufacture, and trade them.)

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Maintains the right of member nations to have knowledge of the manufacture and trade of nuclear weapons or reactors, to possess such knowledge, and to acquire such knowledge;

Same problem. Don't repeat for the sake of repeating. Modern legislation don't do that any more. Since the 90s there's been a huge trend in legal and urban planning fields to simply language to make legislation more accessible to the public. To borrow a quote from Mies van der Rohe: "Less is more."

Simply say:
"Maintains the right of member nations to acquire and transfer nuclear technology."

I'll stop here. I hope you consider redrafting this.

~GRO~

OOC: Thanks. I'll keep it in mind when drafting new legislation. Though, this would have been extremely helpful if it were given perhaps, three or four days ago. Clear legislation is generally easier to interpret and read than verbose legislation. Speaking of urban planning though, my father was one and my mother worked in a law firm. <joke> Perhaps that is why I'm so horridly verbose. </joke>

[Wrapper]

Woo Ho, first vote! Got it in just before the Mousestomp.

[The Manticoran Empire]

I'm not sure what non WA members have to do with this resolution as it has no effect on them. Why are they even mentioned?

[Doperland]

I'm not sure what non WA members have to do with this resolution as it has no effect on them. Why are they even mentioned?

Because it states that since they can have nuclear weaponry without restriction, it is needed for WA members to be able to react in kind. I believe that is why non WA members are mentioned, but don't quote me on that.

[The Manticoran Empire]

I'm not sure what non WA members have to do with this resolution as it has no effect on them. Why are they even mentioned?

Because it states that since they can have nuclear weaponry without restriction, it is needed for WA members to be able to react in kind. I believe that is why non WA members are mentioned, but don't quote me on that.

Who cares if non WA nations blow themselves up? Not me. I only care about what my fellow WA nations do.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Because it states that since they can have nuclear weaponry without restriction, it is needed for WA members to be able to react in kind. I believe that is why non WA members are mentioned, but don't quote me on that.

Who cares if non WA nations blow themselves up? Not me. I only care about what my fellow WA nations do.

But what if non-WA nations blow YOU up?

[Bananaistan]

OOC: Thanks. I'll keep it in mind when drafting new legislation. Though, this would have been extremely helpful if it were given perhaps, three or four days ago. Clear legislation is generally easier to interpret and read than verbose legislation. Speaking of urban planning though, my father was one and my mother worked in a law firm. <joke> Perhaps that is why I'm so horridly verbose. </joke>

OOC: Well there was probably no need to rush it so much! I don't think you allowed any time between posting the current draft and submitting it.

IC: "We don't feel any of the issues noted regarding the text materially affect the meaning of any of the clauses. The resolution does what it sets out to do, there are no major loopholes. We have voted in favour."

- Ted Hornwood.

[Imperium Anglorum]

OOC: Thanks. I'll keep it in mind when drafting new legislation. Though, this would have been extremely helpful if it were given perhaps, three or four days ago. Clear legislation is generally easier to interpret and read than verbose legislation. Speaking of urban planning though, my father was one and my mother worked in a law firm. <joke> Perhaps that is why I'm so horridly verbose. </joke>

OOC: Well there was probably no need to rush it so much! I don't think you allowed any time between posting the current draft and submitting it.

OOC: In case I was sniped. I gave about 2 hours, because I calculated the time necessary to do all necessary telegram campaigns for this. The original draft, however was not really commented on either... mostly because it was stuck in limbo until very recently.

[Zhong Hua Da Di Guo]

*Shuffles into the room, fumbles with the various layers of silken robes before settling down into a seat.*
"那... 一切都哦-"
*Clears throat*
"Ahem... Is, everything done discussion? I have voted, in kind."

[TtyS0]

If you vote AGAINST:
* If you outlaw nukes, only outlaws will have nukes.

If you vote FOR:
* No one will be obligated to own nukes and we'll know who owns nukes
* Trading and sharing information about nukes will not be illegal and that way it can be further regulated and monitored
* Non WA nations will not have the most powerful weapons
* Nukes can be used to make Mars sustainable
* Nukes can be used to destroy bad asteroids
* Nukes calm stop nations making irrational decisions that might cause big conflicts

[Corabian]

Your Excellencies, we are completely lost, will someone kindly explain to us what's going on?

[Sierra Lyricalia]

If you vote AGAINST:
* If you outlaw nukes, only outlaws will have nukes.

"If this doesn't pass, there is still at least one (and some would argue several) resolution(s) guaranteeing WA members' possession and use of nuclear weapons."

If you vote FOR:
...
* Nukes can be used to make Mars sustainable
* Nukes can be used to destroy bad asteroids
...

"Both of these tasks are literally the single worst way to accomplish those goals. Mars needs a constant and steady stream of impacting comets and ice asteroids to keep the water vapor pressure and the partial pressure of oxygen high enough to do anything useful there; and any planetary object in danger from an asteroid impact is far better off using an ion-powered gravity tractor to divert the incoming object, rather than turning one big rock into several medium-sized ones, all still dangerous."

"In short, there's no downside to voting against, no particular need to vote for, and others have already brought up some problems with it."

"We're not against the goals of this resolution, particularly, but certainly can't support its current form."

[Republic of Star Island]

"4. Directs the Nuclear Energy Safety Commission (NESC) to ensure that nuclear materials and knowledge are secured from the wrong hands by providing funds and assistance to nations which are unable to defend their own nuclear knowledge and technology."

Who really decides what "the wrong hands" are? The World Assembly?

Excuse me for butting in, but I'm strongly against nuclear armaments. Nuclear research is still quite valuable to the medical field, but with the real-world incidents of Fukushima and Three Mile Island, Chernobyl et al, and the knowledge of the devastation that even accidental contamination has on the environment, I have to strongly condemn this resolution as it is.

I am for nuclear disarmament.

[Separatist Peoples]

"4. Directs the Nuclear Energy Safety Commission (NESC) to ensure that nuclear materials and knowledge are secured from the wrong hands by providing funds and assistance to nations which are unable to defend their own nuclear knowledge and technology."

Who really decides what "the wrong hands" are? The World Assembly?

Excuse me for butting in, but I'm strongly against nuclear armaments. Nuclear research is still quite valuable to the medical field, but with the real-world incidents of Fukushima and Three Mile Island, Chernobyl et al, and the knowledge of the devastation that even accidental contamination has on the environment, I have to strongly condemn this resolution as it is.

I am for nuclear disarmament.

"It sucks for you that the majority of the WA is rabidly pro-nuke, now doesn't it?"

[The Imperial Frost Federation]

Lt. Albert Nakiri rose from his seat as he calmly said, "After analyzing the contents of the slightly verbose Resolution, the IFF shall vote in favor of the resolution. This is because we firmly believe in the right to responsibly develop nuclear technology. Also despite the IFF's heavy investment in ABM systems and kinetic, thermal and radiation shields, there are nuclear armed nations that threaten the IFF. The IFF has kept them at bay so far with the threat of mutually assured destruction, but I'm not sure if their next regime's as bellicose as the last. In addition, the IFF will be able to trade for information to improve our portable Yutani reactors used to power our planned colonial terraforming machines. A very crude engine that douses our robotic pilots with lethal amounts of radiation causing frequent and temporary electronic failures between the remote controlled piloting interface. We've been looking for a domestic alternative but we're currently stymied and were unsure about the legality of purchasing information to improve the blasted engine. As well as purchase information to shrink a nuclear payload to 7.62 mm without sacrificing its devastating lethality. Which in turn allows our MIRV missiles to load far more nukes to intimi- *ahem* I mean convince non-WA nations that attacking the IFF is an EXTREMELY horrible idea. The IFF is also appalled at how close the current vote is from failing. This is because of the possibility that nations may irresponsibly develop nuclear weapons destroying half of their country in the process or sell nuclear secrets to entities seeking to destabilize a WA member state. Therefore we advocate the monitoring of nuclear technologies to ensure responsible development to keep nukes from reaching the wrong hands." After that the Lieutenant sat back into his seat.