Unibotian WA Mission wrote:I need sleep. That was amazing though. We should do this sometime again, soon, Sedge.
that's what she said
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by Sedgistan » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:25 pm
Unibotian WA Mission wrote:I need sleep. That was amazing though. We should do this sometime again, soon, Sedge.
by Satan In the Flesh » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:25 pm
by Travancore-Cochin » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:51 pm
Unibotian WA Mission wrote:I need sleep. That was amazing though. We should do this sometime again, soon, Sedge.
Kalibarr wrote:that's what she said
by Kalibarr » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:56 pm
Travancore-Cochin wrote:Unibotian WA Mission wrote:I need sleep. That was amazing though. We should do this sometime again, soon, Sedge.
I couldn't care less if people misinterpret it. I've lost a lot of sleep over this, as I stayed up telegramming delegates like hell, clearing their own misinterpretations, and asking them to vote for.
Kalibarr wrote:that's what she said
I have no idea what "she" said, or who "she" is, so perhaps you are right. She must have said that.
But then again, you have a habit of singing one tune now, and something diametrically opposite later. So, I'd rather not take your word.
by West Newmanistan » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:41 pm
by Todd McCloud » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:50 pm
by West Newmanistan » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:54 pm
by Travancore-Cochin » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:09 am
Todd McCloud wrote:There was eleven hours on this thing. I personally suspect something fishy, because the vote was too close to tell, especially after there was only a margin of sixty votes with eleven hours still left on the clock for this one.
Todd McCloud wrote:By far, this resolution has left a horrible mark. Completely disgusting.
EDIT: There is an almost disturbing polarity in the game now. Due to this, and due to a passion to try and always help out the less-fortunate side, I will step up more protests against liberations such as this. Liberations have now become a tool for defenders, a permanent "ace up the sleeve", but with the house turning a blind eye to the madness. It's one thing to have that ace up one's sleeve, but it's another thing to use it on every single hand, only to make up whatever excuse one pleases to make them appear totally innocent. No, this needs to stop. This is not what liberations were designed for. In all honesty, it would be better to take them off the table permanently than to encourage such gameplay. Truly disgusting.
by West Newmanistan » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:13 am
Travancore-Cochin wrote:Todd McCloud wrote:There was eleven hours on this thing. I personally suspect something fishy, because the vote was too close to tell, especially after there was only a margin of sixty votes with eleven hours still left on the clock for this one.
The WA timer is off by 12 hours. It has been so for a long time, now. And guess what, it isn't a closely guarded secret either.
by Travancore-Cochin » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:15 am
West Newmanistan wrote:Unacceptable. People should not be expected to KNOW this.
If there is a bug then there needs to be disclaimer somewhere on the WA page. If this had been known since the beginning of December, then it is even MORE unacceptable, not less.
by Todd McCloud » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:19 am
If it is such an open policy, why are there (and, I'm going to guess, will be) many delegates coming forward saying they wished they had time to vote, the time that was reflected on the resolution itself? I guess they're all just clueless. Or the whole thing should be made void due to a breech in perjuring the allotted time frame.Travancore-Cochin wrote:Todd McCloud wrote:There was eleven hours on this thing. I personally suspect something fishy, because the vote was too close to tell, especially after there was only a margin of sixty votes with eleven hours still left on the clock for this one.
The WA timer is off by 12 hours. It has been so for a long time, now. And guess what, it isn't a closely guarded secret either.
Todd McCloud wrote:By far, this resolution has left a horrible mark. Completely disgusting.
EDIT: There is an almost disturbing polarity in the game now. Due to this, and due to a passion to try and always help out the less-fortunate side, I will step up more protests against liberations such as this. Liberations have now become a tool for defenders, a permanent "ace up the sleeve", but with the house turning a blind eye to the madness. It's one thing to have that ace up one's sleeve, but it's another thing to use it on every single hand, only to make up whatever excuse one pleases to make them appear totally innocent. No, this needs to stop. This is not what liberations were designed for. In all honesty, it would be better to take them off the table permanently than to encourage such gameplay. Truly disgusting.
Passwords have always been a permanent ace up the griefers' sleeve for a while, so I see no reason why there shouldn't be a technique to counter it.
But what's truly disgusting was how you removed your vote, even when it was evident that it was invaders who bussed in and stacked the vote AGAINST in your region.
by Travancore-Cochin » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:28 am
Todd McCloud wrote:If it is such an open policy, why are there (and, I'm going to guess, will be) many delegates coming forward saying they wished they had time to vote, the time that was reflected on the resolution itself? I guess they're all just clueless. Or the whole thing should be made void due to a breech in perjuring the allotted time frame.
by Cinistra » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:53 am
by Bears Armed » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:02 am
Kalibarr wrote:Pyshoria wrote:Kalibarr wrote:The mods can't do this (measuring intent), so they left it to the general community to do it, believing in the wisdom of the crowd.
Time for a Thomas Jefferson Quote: "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine"
The "other forty-nine" are the raiders.
Not exactly true, my friend. The majority of the nations on NS are neither raiders nor defenders; they're neutral. And as a note, if you keep attacking these neutral regions, they'll vote against your opinions. Simple as that. So basically, you raiders are hurting your own cause by simply raiding
Neutrals allow them selves to be the pawns of the "elite",.
by Gun Heaven » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:38 am
Wullamudulla wrote:What a shame this garbage made it into the law books.
by North East Somerset » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:26 am
by Bears Armed » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:34 am
Cinistra wrote:Who did manipulate with the time? Scandalous. It should been approx. 7 hours left! This is indeed fishy. So, this resolution must go back into the queue for another vote.
by Martyrdoom » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:40 am
North East Somerset wrote:I think many delegates will be relieved to have a break. Who cares about stem cell research when there is some obscure setting to change on the game! That surely has to go down as one of the closest and most tense WA resolutions ever.
No, but seriously then, it is a fine shame this passed, and very much a lottery - were it not for the currently unexplained late swap of Empires of Earth we would have won, likewise if TEP have swapped as their forum vote suggested. I am sure there will be repercussions regarding FRA influence in the Security Council now it has become apparent they wish to use it like this, and possibly even a repeal attempt in the future.
Travancore-Cochin wrote:The WA timer is off by 12 hours. It has been so for a long time, now. And guess what, it isn't a closely guarded secret either.
by North East Somerset » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:42 am
by Martyrdoom » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:44 am
Bears Armed wrote:Cinistra wrote:Who did manipulate with the time? Scandalous. It should been approx. 7 hours left! This is indeed fishy. So, this resolution must go back into the queue for another vote.
Haven't you actually bothered to read all of the preceding posts, or did you simply not understand them? Nobody "manipulated" the time for this resolution, the discrepancy was due to a known glitch in the game's settings that had already applied for a number of previous votes too...
by Dysian » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:46 am
West Newmanistan wrote:Hold up here.....
at 8am my time there were 23 hours left to vote according to the WA page.
at 1am, the resolution went through.
What gives? Somewhere, there is an error.
by Cinistra » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:22 am
Bears Armed wrote:Cinistra wrote:Who did manipulate with the time? Scandalous. It should been approx. 7 hours left! This is indeed fishy. So, this resolution must go back into the queue for another vote.
Haven't you actually bothered to read all of the preceding posts, or did you simply not understand them? Nobody "manipulated" the time for this resolution, the discrepancy was due to a known glitch in the game's settings that had already applied for a number of previous votes too...
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