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Postby Central Asian Republics » Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:30 pm

Coraxion wrote:Whole draft proposal is bad and mis-directed. There are organisations around which conduct raiding activities all the time with hundreds of puppets placed all around The Multiverse, NK makes few attempts here and there and reason for outrage is here, right?

Then, North Korea and satellites forms only one supra-wing within Marxist leftist segment of a interregional unbrella organisation Antifa. All what can happen in the fields under name of Antifa cannot be considered as a deeds of North Korea.

Furthermore, noting that Founder of North Korea, The Defender Alliance a.k.a. V.Ming (Original Founder of The CPNS) should be merely commended due her extreme activity and enthusianism within Far-Left wing of the NationStates and totally regardless what World Assembly members would think about her political agendas, platforms and RL-politically oriented activities represented via her activity and regions founded by her.

Few raids are not condemnworthy in any scenarios regardless whom are conducted them and what for.

Thus, being Against this proposal wholeheartedly.

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...and yet people told that my draft of "Condemn Libertatem" is overreacting because my reason was because of numerous raids. Even the creator of this resolution (which btw is in Libertatem) told me that my draft was nothing but mentioning raids. I hate hypocrisy and this is the perfect example of it.
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Postby Unified Gibbons » Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:55 pm

Condemn North Korea! Real life North Korea is Millitary Dictatorship, and so is this one, they senslessly raid regions for fun , and hide their war crimes behind a meaningless smokescreen of anti-fascism. :evil:
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Postby Kokand Autonomy » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:00 pm

Hey I voted FOR. Come on, nations, let's condemn that region!

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Postby Central Asian Republics » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:03 pm

Kokand Autonomy wrote:Hey I voted FOR. Come on, nations, let's condemn that region!

Yeah! Let's condemn Libertatem in the process for doing the same thing!
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Postby Philjia » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:17 pm

This vote is mired in ultrier motives, petty spite, and hypocrisy. As a protest, we abstain. >:(
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Postby Princess Mi Amora Cadenza » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:29 pm

Republic of Minerva wrote:
The Security Council,

UNDERSTANDING that North Korea is a region dedicated to the principles of "Anti-Imperialism, Anti-Colonialism, [and] Self Determination,”

NOTING that North Korea denies the freedom of speech of their members, as shown by Article 8d of their constitution, as well as banning any nation they deem to be "reactionary" from their region,

ACKNOWLEDGING North Korea’s position of anti-fascism, and it’s attempt to combat fascism has turned it into a large empire spanning almost a thousand regions indirectly connected to it, blocking others from using those region’s name merely in the name of “anti-fascism,”

RECALLING a North Korean backed raid of the region Benevolent Capitalism, a small region whose only guilt was being associated to other regions indirectly, and was unfairly raided a second time after it was noted that the Black Riders had done one before them, despite said region not being fascist in the least,

AWARE of North Korea’s recent refounding of Slavya, a long time regional community that once had up to 150 nations, had denied that region’s previous founder a chance to refound the region, securing it under their control,

APPALLED that North Korea’s sole motivation in keeping Slavya is due to their belief that freedom of speech and association shouldn’t apply to Slavyans, and that their ideas of what freedom is must be imposed on other regions under the guise of anti-fascism,

BELIEVING that by occupying Slavya, and by invading other regions in the name of "Anti-Imperialism, Anti-Colonialism, [and] Self-Determination," North Korea violates the principles that they claim they are dedicated to, and poses a threat to the international community,

Hereby CONDEMNS North Korea.


Rought draft #2, actually. First attempt of drafting a condemnation, so if you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them.


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Holy crap, that is hypocritical, I mean, so what? You've done it, and so have a ton of other regions. Your gonna hate on somebody because they're doing something you and a lot of other regions have done, stupid dude.
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Postby Idoits » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:25 pm

I honestly don't know which way to go on this!

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Postby Unified Imperial States » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:44 pm

"And so because it's in the name of 'anti-fascism', it makes it completely okay? Does no one understand what a true fascist government looks like? Ha, I think not."

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Postby Giskola » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:41 pm

Definitely for!!!
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Postby Unified Imperial States » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:54 pm

"Come now, surely we can secure a few hundred more in favor of condemning this barbarian hoard."
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Postby New Brussels » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:39 pm

I think I'd go for a for this time ;)
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Postby Mylegs (Ancient) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:54 pm

The irony in this is awesome, this needs to happen. :clap:

North Korea is going to get condemned by the United Na..I mean World Assembly.

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Postby Applebania » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:54 pm

Wut? This got to quorum?
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Postby Chester Pearson » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:57 pm

Applebania wrote:Wut? This got to quorum?


Based on name alone....
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Postby Coraxion » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:01 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
Applebania wrote:Wut? This got to quorum?


Based on name alone....


And now I must agree with C. Pearson.

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Postby N-America » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:09 pm

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Postby New New Capston » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:09 am

This proposal shows that our world is no more a place for all ideologies. On the other hand, North Korea would do the same to Libertatem -and they would be right- and I would not say anything, which in turn shows the inherent conflic between rival ideologies. So, basically, let anyone support theirs and fight the rivals, fully accepting that on both sides the end justifies the means and that the means can -and occasionally should- be the same.

Voted against.
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Postby The New Fandom Republic » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:47 am

This proposal will greatly benefit my region and the founder aka my friend will be pleased with it's approval. voted for

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Postby HashtagSwiggitySwag » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:53 am

I hate condemnations. All that they do is give attention to those who want it, and I've never seen an example of a condemnation COMPLETELY stopping a region from raiding. That's all I'm saying. :meh:
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Postby Central Asian Republics » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:58 am

Wow, this condemnation is too hypocritical. Das Kommune was just invaded by Libertatem. The Cooperative Union was invaded by Libertatem, and many others were also invaded by Libertatem. Nobody gave a single shit about my condemnation of Libertatem, but when North Korea invaded 1 region, everyone goes bat shit crazy and condemns North Korea.
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Postby New Grestin » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:46 am

This is why we can't have nice things in the WA.

A poorly written, hypocritical, biased, and downright obnoxious proposal is getting pushed through simply on the name alone.

Guys, just because it says "Condemn North Korea" does not mean that we're literally condemning North Korea.

Seriously, this is little more than a weaponized condemnation from one raider region to another.

The only main points this has are that NK invaded a region without provocation, as though that's notable enough to deserve condemnation. Heck, it's basically just the writer grasping at straws because NK invaded a region that I can only assume Libertatem had their eyes on. This should have been voted into oblivion the moment it got onto the floor. That's not even taking into account the fact that the proposal is hilariously hypocritical and biased. If anything, we should be condemning Minerva and Libertatem for even trying this kind of stunt.

How people aren't against this is beyond me.
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Postby New Collier » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:10 pm

The situation in Noth Korea is far worse than the Nazi Regime. Humanity is no option as the NK government has treated their people like slaves. We must join in a United front to stop the current government and rebuild one Korea.

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Postby Central Asian Republics » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:14 pm

New Collier wrote:The situation in Noth Korea is far worse than the Nazi Regime. Humanity is no option as the NK government has treated their people like slaves. We must join in a United front to stop the current government and rebuild one Korea.

Please read the condemnation, IT'S NOT LITERALLY NORTH KOREA. Don't even vote for this biased and hypocritical condemnation, because the region that the OP is in (Libertatem) has invaded multiple regions without anyone giving a shit.
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Postby Republic of Minerva » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:23 pm

I'm going to stop parroting the fact that I originally made this condemnation out of sympathy and solidarity with Slavija and not for Libertatem. But whatever. Anyway I abandoned this except that I now just want to see it out, and I'll support a repeal if it passes since North Korea deserves better ;)

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New Collier wrote:The situation in Noth Korea is far worse than the Nazi Regime. Humanity is no option as the NK government has treated their people like slaves. We must join in a United front to stop the current government and rebuild one Korea.

Please read the condemnation, IT'S NOT LITERALLY NORTH KOREA. Don't even vote for this biased and hypocritical condemnation, because the region that the OP is in (Libertatem) has invaded multiple regions without anyone giving a shit.


Nah, everyone knows that North Korea is run like the actual North Korea. Just look at their constitution.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:32 pm

The fact that this is suddenly very popular is proof that noone reads these things. Certainly few people read the security council thread.

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