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Really chester? I'm expecting you to jump out at any moment and yell "satire bitches" - at least jump out of a cake so we have something to eat after

Blood Wine wrote:Really chester? I'm expecting you to jump out at any moment and yell "satire bitches" - at least jump out of a cake so we have something to eat after

What?

Either way, now that we have native support, this has been sent to the floor...

Earlier today, I thought you argued against Ramaeus' draft because "the current delegate does not want the repeal" and you knew that because "you had a nation in the region".


...and then the delegate supports any repeal and you decide to submit your draft to the SC

New Brussels wrote:Earlier today, I thought you argued against Ramaeus' draft because "the current delegate does not want the repeal" and you knew that because "you had a nation in the region".


...and then the delegate supports any repeal and you decide to submit your draft to the SC

Your point being?

Again I ask, who is the current delegate? What was his nation before he started using this puppet? This is the most important issue surrounding this repeal, failing to address it looks suspicious to me.

Topid wrote:Again I ask, who is the current delegate? What was his nation before he started using this puppet? This is the most important issue surrounding this repeal, failing to address it looks suspicious to me.

I second Topid.

Looking at the RMB posts in Liberal Haven now at this point doesn't inspire confidence at all.

Elke and Elba wrote:

Topid wrote:Again I ask, who is the current delegate? What was his nation before he started using this puppet? This is the most important issue surrounding this repeal, failing to address it looks suspicious to me.

I second Topid.

Looking at the RMB posts in Liberal Haven now at this point doesn't inspire confidence at all.

I re-asked my question when I received my campaign telegram to approve it as a delegate. Needless to say this will not get my approval with these major questions unanswered.

EDIT: Also, as a totally theoretical and hypothetical assumption based on no specific knowledge of the situation, putting a repeal of a liberation at vote, when the delegate only has 1 endorsement is silly even if he is a native. This vote is going to be decided in the first few hours of voting before the lemmings take over. There are organizations out there that are very interested in seeing the WA look silly that would love to vote FOR this and help it pass, then turn around and take the delegacy an update into the vote so that when the repeal passes it will be helping raiders.

This is going to go badly I'm afraid, it would be most wise to pull this and re-assess.

Repealing the liberation with the region in the condition it's in right now would be ludicrous. Regardless of what the natives want, if the liberation is repealed the region will be raided and we'll do this all over again.

They need to recruit for the region and get more endos on their Delegate. Then and only then is it responsible to talk about repeal.

Response to TG:

Why Chester, as a very friendly raider with friends who are quite interested in the repeal of that refound, I have loooooong since approved the proposal
- Ever-Wandering Souls, Dominus Sicarii

Chester Pearson wrote:

Blood Wine wrote:Really chester? I'm expecting you to jump out at any moment and yell "satire bitches" - at least jump out of a cake so we have something to eat after

What?

Either way, now that we have native support, this has been sent to the floor...

I was hopeful this would be satire aimed at the Mall incident,although it doesn't seem this way now

1 endorsement without anyone with the proper experience to lead the region or snipe the refound is bound for raider territory

Elke and Elba wrote:

Topid wrote:Again I ask, who is the current delegate? What was his nation before he started using this puppet? This is the most important issue surrounding this repeal, failing to address it looks suspicious to me.

I second Topid.

Looking at the RMB posts in Liberal Haven now at this point doesn't inspire confidence at all.

I share similar concerns, considering the region's history I feel there isn't evidence to confirm any residents as legitimate natives, and not some puppet with ulterior motives. I mean both WA nations in there now are very new nations with low populations.

And on top of that, the delegate only has one endorsement, repealing this will only lead to it getting raided. Which an attempted to raid the region was just made today.

Eh, I really should campaign against this since it is still beatable, but it is hard to see anything worth saving. Good game gents.

Pearson has been added to my list of authors whose resolutions I'm not allowed to vote for or whose proposals I'm not allowed to approve, however.

Topid wrote:Pearson has been added to my list of authors whose resolutions I'm not allowed to vote for or whose proposals I'm not allowed to approve, however.

I'm hurt Topid, I really am..... Would you have taken the the same stance against Rameus as well?

No you aren't, but I would have been surprised if you were concerned about your reputation after this.

Topid wrote:No you aren't, but I would have been surprised if you were concerned about your reputation after this.

Why would I need to be?

Chester Pearson wrote:I'm hurt Topid, I really am..... Would you have taken the the same stance against Rameus as well?

Who's "Rameus"?

Wasn't he that werewolf in that there Hurry Putter movie?

Anyway yes, I am extremely suspicious of my good friend Ram's motives also. Extremely. Yes.
@Ram: Still though...

I didn't see your edit as I was already replying, sorry for delayed response.

Cormac Pendragon wrote:Repealing the liberation with the region in the condition it's in right now would be ludicrous. Regardless of what the natives want, if the liberation is repealed the region will be raided and we'll do this all over again.

They need to recruit for the region and get more endos on their Delegate. Then and only then is it responsible to talk about repeal.

And if you hadn't abandoned the region through some misplaced sense of loyalty to raider unity then we would not be going through this farce right now.
Belgium shows how a liberated founderless region can continue to thrive and survive if the will is there.

As for Chesters assertion that I was attempting to refound the region, with or without the consent of the inhabitants, it is at best erroneous and at worst slanderous - it can never be substantiated because it is not true.

Chesters wording is deliberately misleading the Security Council and the WA members into voting on a resolution to further his own political agenda, irrespective of the consequences for liberal haven.

The current delegate has also commenced ejecting nations from the region without a democratic mandate. Approving this repeal will signal that the Security Council sanctions the actions of dictators raiders and tyrants, allowing them to trample on the freedoms that every region is entitled to

Asquithania wrote:

Cormac Pendragon wrote:Repealing the liberation with the region in the condition it's in right now would be ludicrous. Regardless of what the natives want, if the liberation is repealed the region will be raided and we'll do this all over again.

They need to recruit for the region and get more endos on their Delegate. Then and only then is it responsible to talk about repeal.

And if you hadn't abandoned the region through some misplaced sense of loyalty to raider unity then we would not be going through this farce right now.
Belgium shows how a liberated founderless region can continue to thrive and survive if the will is there.

As for Chesters assertion that I was attempting to refound the region, with or without the consent of the inhabitants, it is at best erroneous and at worst slanderous - it can never be substantiated because it is not true.

Chesters wording is deliberately misleading the Security Council and the WA members into voting on a resolution to further his own political agenda, irrespective of the consequences for liberal haven.

The current delegate has also commenced ejecting nations from the region without a democratic mandate. Approving this repeal will signal that the Security Council sanctions the actions of dictators raiders and tyrants, allowing them to trample on the freedoms that every region is entitled to

What political agenda?

No. NO. Isn't this another attempt to capture the region with the Doom Squad? The defeated resolution of the same name was just that.

Redsward wrote:No. NO. Isn't this another attempt to capture the region with the Doom Squad? The defeated resolution of the same name was just that.

What the hell are you babbling about?

Chester, what's the chance of you coming to the SC again in a week or two to ask for another Liberation when this region gets invaded or when the delegate turns out to be not really who you think he is?

Goddess Relief Office wrote:Chester, what's the chance of you coming to the SC again in a week or two to ask for another Liberation when this region gets invaded or when the delegate turns out to be not really who you think he is?

A snowballs chance in hell....

Chester Pearson wrote:

Goddess Relief Office wrote:Chester, what's the chance of you coming to the SC again in a week or two to ask for another Liberation when this region gets invaded or when the delegate turns out to be not really who you think he is?

A snowballs chance in hell....

You know that hell is supposed to be a hot place right?

Benevolent Thomas wrote:

Chester Pearson wrote:
A snowballs chance in hell....

You know that hell is supposed to be a hot place right?

Yes....