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[DEFEATED] Repeal Liberate Liberal Haven

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:01 pm
by Corrupt Communists
The Security Council,

Seeing that Liberal Haven was liberated in order to strike down a raider-created password to allow natives to reclaim their home.

Noting that Liberal Haven has since been invaded at times, due to the native-elected delegate's inability to create a regional password for security. Because of the raiders, the native community of Liberal Haven wish this liberation removed in order to help re-found the region, which is impossible with the liberation in place.

Asking that this liberation be lifted in order to help the re-founding process in order to give Liberal Haven residents their right to a secure home.

Finalizing that the liberation was needed at the time of invasion, but has served its purpose for the region. Now, it remains against the will of the regional natives, and is hurting the region. Due to the desire of Liberal Haven residents to repeal the liberation,

This Resolution Hereby Repeals "Liberate Liberal Haven".

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:03 pm
by Corrupt Communists
Here it is everybody.

Delegates, please approve this proposal. The natives of Liberal Haven, wish to move towards a re-found for regional safety. Please help us by approving this and voting FOR when it reaches the floor.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:37 pm
by Luxembourgers
Very much for this proposal. Hope to see its passage and very happy to see a formerly struggling region get a grip on a sturdy regional government! Good luck with your refound! :)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:38 pm
by Cormac A Stark
Approved, but you're likely going to need to do a telegram campaign for this to make quorum, or ask someone with stamps or a script to do it for you.

I would offer, but I currently have neither stamps nor a script. :P

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:07 pm
by Chester Pearson
Pretty poorly written if you ask me....

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:14 am
by Bears Armed
What are the odds that if the password's lifted it would actually end up being raiders, rather than a native delegate, who set the new password?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:37 am
by Wrapper
Bears Armed wrote:What are the odds that if the password's lifted it would actually end up being raiders, rather than a native delegate, who set the new password?

**cough, Panem, cough**

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:31 pm
by District XIV
Wrapper wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:What are the odds that if the password's lifted it would actually end up being raiders, rather than a native delegate, who set the new password?

**cough, Panem, cough**

*cough* No longer actually that way *cough*

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:49 pm
by Frattastan II
Corrupt Communists wrote:Here it is everybody.


Did you join the WA only to submit this proposal?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:52 pm
by Gjulich
Hmm... This seems like a good idea, just as said before, poorly written. I would support it if it were better written, but not now.

Gjulich: ABSTAINS.

Edit: Aren't WA members meant to have at least two endorsements before submitting proposals?

Here.

Can I propose a World Assembly resolution?

Yes, once you have at least two endorsements, you can also propose resolutions.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:03 pm
by Frattastan II
Corrupt Communists resigned WA since submitting this proposal (and before was a member only for a brief time, in fact - just enough to get the necessary endorsements).

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:06 pm
by District XIV
Gjulich wrote:Aren't WA members meant to have at least two endorsements before submitting proposals?

"Meant" is extremely over-exaggerated, as it is literally impossible to submit a resolution without simultaneously having two endorsements.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:08 pm
by Gjulich
District XIV wrote:
Gjulich wrote:Aren't WA members meant to have at least two endorsements before submitting proposals?

"Meant" is extremely over-exaggerated, as it is literally impossible to submit a resolution without simultaneously having two endorsements.

Makes sense. Alright.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:04 am
by The Leningrad Union
This is just an attempt from corrupt communists to flood the queue in order to delay my liberations from going to vote.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:22 am
by Solorni
Frattastan II wrote:Corrupt Communists resigned WA since submitting this proposal (and before was a member only for a brief time, in fact - just enough to get the necessary endorsements).

Which means what?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:50 am
by Frattastan II
Solorni wrote:Which means what?


That their WA nation is busy in another 'native refounding' operation.
With raiders from The Doom Squad.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:59 am
by Goddess Relief Office
Poorly written, bloggish.

Maybe get a SC regular to rewrite it.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:07 pm
by Chester Pearson
Goddess Relief Office wrote:Poorly written, bloggish.

Maybe get a SC regular to rewrite it.


I tried, but he pushed on with it anyway....

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:03 pm
by Corrupt Communists
The Leningrad Union wrote:This is just an attempt from corrupt communists to flood the queue in order to delay my liberations from going to vote.


I submitted my proposal way before you genius. You are trying to block my proposal from getting to the floor not the other way around...

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:22 pm
by Horagalles
And why should the SC NOT be manipulated by non-WA nations?

After all, if it wasn't for the, admittedly unintentional, side effect of WA membership mechanics raiding and defending wouldn't be necessary - it seems only right that the WA and its sidekick the SC should be the tool that cleans up the mess that its existence causes

Let the region return to how it was before the WA stuck it's oar in

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:24 pm
by Frattastan II
The problem isn't that Corrupt Communists isn't a WA member, it's that they're a sleeper agent, and an invader.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:26 pm
by Horagalles
Frattastan II wrote:The problem isn't that Corrupt Communists isn't a WA member, it's that they're a sleeper agent, and an invader.


Can you substantiate this? Or is it a cynical ploy by an Arch defender to scaremonger?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:08 pm
by Frattastan II
I have no "evidence", but there is a number of coincidences which make me suspicious of Corrupt Communists' motives and wary of supporting this repeal.

-Right after- Corrupt Communists resigned, The Jedi Master applied/joined the WA. Before, CC's brief time as a WA member matches with Jedi's break from WA membership and delegacy between September 4th and September 9th.
Their login times have been consistent with two nations belonging to the same player in five separate occasions... and that's only today.

The Jedi Master is busy refounding 'Jedi vs Sith', pretending to be a native (heh). They are not: at least four of the nations helping with the refound are 'dirty puppets' [used in previous raids] of The Doom Squad, including one which just left the Jedi region to reinforce another Doom Squad raid (a group which had tried to invade Liberal Haven before with less subtle means, by the way).

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:10 pm
by The Leningrad Union
Corrupt Communists wrote:
The Leningrad Union wrote:This is just an attempt from corrupt communists to flood the queue in order to delay my liberations from going to vote.


I submitted my proposal way before you genius. You are trying to block my proposal from getting to the floor not the other way around...

Yes I am running a countercampaign because what Fratt has said

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:13 pm
by Frattastan II
I am sure you knew all that without me telling you. ;)