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by Louisistan » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:50 am
by Bears Armed » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:09 am
by Gruenberg » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:49 pm
by The Eternal Kawaii » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:59 pm
by Hirota » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:28 pm
by Chester Pearson » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:02 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:With a lawnchair and a large bag of popcorn in hand, Ambassador SaDiablo walks in and sets himself up comfortably. Out of a dufflebag comes a large foam finger with the name "Chester Pearson" emblazoned on it, as well as a few six-packs.
by Macwick » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:31 am
by Gruenberg » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:04 am
Macwick wrote:One says nations cannot have working time regulations that unfairly remove decision-making power from the individual level.
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If this proposal passes I cannot see how these regulations can be justified.
Mandates the removal of working time regulations that serve only to reduce individual liberty and that do not serve any other purpose;
by Chester Pearson » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:25 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:With a lawnchair and a large bag of popcorn in hand, Ambassador SaDiablo walks in and sets himself up comfortably. Out of a dufflebag comes a large foam finger with the name "Chester Pearson" emblazoned on it, as well as a few six-packs.
by Macwick » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:59 pm
Reserves the right of all nations to choose whether to set specific regulations on workweeks and working time in the general public interest;
Endorses policies aimed at delegating decisions concerning working time regulations to the most local level possible;
by Gruenberg » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:07 pm
Macwick wrote:Thank you for amending your proposal. How would you feel about just deleting the whole clause? If you believe it is not the concern of the WA what regulations nations have, why have the clause at all?
You would be left withReserves the right of all nations to choose whether to set specific regulations on workweeks and working time in the general public interest;
Endorses policies aimed at delegating decisions concerning working time regulations to the most local level possible;
These together leave each nation to decide themselves without any enforcement from the WA one way or the other. It would still block any future moves to impose working time regulations by the WA.
by Iron Felix » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:15 pm
by Araraukar » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:24 am
Iron Felix wrote:Comrade, it is fine as it is written. I have examined it several times.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Bananaistan » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:43 am
by Tsarist Chernigov » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:29 am
by Araraukar » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:42 pm
Tsarist Chernigov wrote:I agree with what you put in.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:25 pm
by Gruenberg » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:38 pm
by Separatist Peoples » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:30 am
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Take the "II" out when you submit. No reason to make others pointlessly wonder why it's there once this goes primetime.
I'm so looking forward to telling all the workweek people to shut the hell up once this passes. Get on with it already.
by Frustrated Franciscans » Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:02 pm
Gruenberg wrote:Any tweaks on the wording needed? I've softened a couple of the clauses as I remember last time around there was considerable concern that I was forcing a "libertarian" resolution on everyone (somewhat unlikely from the pen of Lori Jiffjeff), but I haven't changed the main clauses - but am happy to do so.
Mandates the removal of working time regulations that serve only to reduce individual liberty and that do not serve any other purpose;
Endorses policies aimed at delegating decisions concerning working time regulations to the most local level possible;
by Macwick » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:43 pm
Mandates the removal of working time regulations that serve only to reduce individual liberty and that do not serve any other purpose;
Reserves the right of all nations to choose whether to set specific regulations on workweeks and working time in the general public interest;
Endorses policies aimed at delegating decisions concerning working time regulations to the most local level possible;
by Sierra Lyricalia » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:10 pm
Macwick wrote:...if your proposal was passed no future proposal to regulate workweeks and working time could be passed?
by Chester Pearson » Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:07 pm
Macwick wrote:...if your proposal was passed no future proposal to regulate workweeks and working time could be passed?
Separatist Peoples wrote:With a lawnchair and a large bag of popcorn in hand, Ambassador SaDiablo walks in and sets himself up comfortably. Out of a dufflebag comes a large foam finger with the name "Chester Pearson" emblazoned on it, as well as a few six-packs.
by Gruenberg » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:36 am
Frustrated Franciscans wrote:I'm not sure if the red text is a restriction or a commentary. If it is the later, it's too vague to give the clause effect. (Almost every working time regulation has *some* excuse.)
Frustrated Franciscans wrote:Endorses policies aimed at delegating decisions concerning working time regulations to the most local level possible;
Macwick wrote:I wonder if you could clarify a couple of clauses in your proposal -Reserves the right of all nations to choose whether to set specific regulations on workweeks and working time in the general public interest;
Do you believe that “reserves” and “endorses” are such that if your proposal was passed no future proposal to regulate workweeks and working time could be passed?
Bananaistan wrote:Yet, given the current wording of clause 3, we don't see that any part of our system would now be disallowed.
Chester Pearson wrote:Just go ahead an submit this. It is not going to get any better, and you have overwhelming support....
by Applebania » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:36 am
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