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Postby Lexicor » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:21 am

Shizensky wrote:Let me make sure I'm understanding this all correctly.

Riftend took over a region over petty grievances, then had his own region taken over petty grievances, and now wants sympathy and support from the global community.

If you're gonna raid people, Rift, don't expect much sympathy when you get raided.


After he ordered all CoF Natives [check the RMB] to leave the region. Odd turn of events in regional policy.
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Postby Blood Wine » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:21 am

Mass TG from Nephmir
Attention all nations of the World Assembly:

For years The Black Riders have tormented many regions, raiding or destroying over 3000 innocent nation's homes. From the destruction of K and J Alliance to The Silver Isles, and the ongoing occupations in Anarchy and Ixnay, they seem to be stronger than ever.

Now they and their allies have seized Coalition of Freedom, a region which peaked at 320 nations before they so brutally conquered the delegate and overthrew the region.

Are we really going to stand by and watch a fifth Raider occupation go on unopposed? Stand strong, and liberate the region, so that the natives may return! Support the Defenders, and free the region from the oppressive regime now in control of it!

Liberation! Free the oppressed and the conquered!
vote FOR Liberate Coalition of Freedom! Make your stand, and join us in the revolution!


Observing that these actions have been taken against Coalition of Freedom because the region has taken military action against The Black Riders in the past;

Recalling that Coalition of Freedom was placed under the authority of The Eternal Knights after its Founder nation ceased to exist, and that the regional population of Coalition of Freedom has begun the process of merging with The Eternal Knights;



Keep your hands above the table Nephmir,I don't want things to get messy
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:23 am

Blood Wine wrote:Mass TG from Nephmir
Attention all nations of the World Assembly:

For years The Black Riders have tormented many regions, raiding or destroying over 3000 innocent nation's homes. From the destruction of K and J Alliance to The Silver Isles, and the ongoing occupations in Anarchy and Ixnay, they seem to be stronger than ever.

Now they and their allies have seized Coalition of Freedom, a region which peaked at 320 nations before they so brutally conquered the delegate and overthrew the region.

Are we really going to stand by and watch a fifth Raider occupation go on unopposed? Stand strong, and liberate the region, so that the natives may return! Support the Defenders, and free the region from the oppressive regime now in control of it!

Liberation! Free the oppressed and the conquered!
vote FOR Liberate Coalition of Freedom! Make your stand, and join us in the revolution!


Observing that these actions have been taken against Coalition of Freedom because the region has taken military action against The Black Riders in the past;

Recalling that Coalition of Freedom was placed under the authority of The Eternal Knights after its Founder nation ceased to exist, and that the regional population of Coalition of Freedom has begun the process of merging with The Eternal Knights;



Keep your hands above the table Nephmir,I don't want things to get messy

Lol he lied in that TG
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Postby Blood Wine » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:26 am

btw Lenin are you TBR? unsure because you don't list ranks in your sig
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Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:28 am

Blood Wine wrote:btw Lenin are you TBR? unsure because you don't list ranks in your sig

I have a nation there, but I consider myself independent.
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Postby Blood Wine » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:36 am

So this actually isn't a TBR occupation
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:44 am

Blood Wine wrote:So this actually isn't a TBR occupation

No, not at all.

This is my counter campaign TG:

Esteemed nation, I message you today because you have voted in favor of Liberate Coalition of Freedom. I humbly ask why you are supporting the liberation of a region that has destroyed regional communities, including GDU, sent monthly recruitment telegrams to the entire WA, tried to hack an account in order to gain control of a region, betrayed allies and turned on loyal members? The founder even claims not to care about being raided, even vocalizing his intent to be a member of one of the raiding communities involved, so why force a liberation?

In addition, the proposal submitted by Pharaoh Cormac A. Stark unfortunately contains many errors.


Observing that these actions have been taken against Coalition of Freedom because the region has taken military action against The Black Riders in the past;

That is NOT why this raid occurred. Coalition of Freedom was taken over by me,Leningrad Union, a former founding member, upon the region members and delegate abandoning it. The Black Riders and others simply assisted me in securing it from future action by password protecting it, something that the former delegate and founder had expressed a wish to do, but lacked influence for.

Recalling that Coalition of Freedom was placed under the authority of The Eternal Knights after its Founder nation ceased to exist, and that the regional population of Coalition of Freedom has begun the process of merging with The Eternal Knights;

This is on point. They have abandoned their region entirely.

Asserting that the fate of Coalition of Freedom should be left to the regional community of Coalition of Freedom and The Eternal Knights, whom they have entrusted with their security;

As he so kindly stated, the region community has moved to TEK. The only ones remaining are those who refused to move and the former delegate was unable to eject. Among that number was Mathew Hargraves, a known puppet of myself, as previously stated. TEK leadership has expressed their ambivalence for it's future. I, however, care about the region, and has the power to secure it, which they did not.

Insisting that this Council should be proactive in defeating operations by The Black Riders whenever possible in order to curb their negative impact on interregional peace and goodwill:

Again, this wasn't a TBR-organized raid. It was a move by myself, backed by the available forces of my allies in Madrigal, TBR, and Sicarius, among others, to secure the region where The Republic of South Carolina could not.

In short, this proposal is counter to the very wishes expressed by the regions former leaders. In any event, they have abandoned it. I have as much a claim to ownership now as they do, and this proposal violates my right to protect it with a password, something that not even the former leadership could do. I therefore humbly beg you to reconsider you approval, and perhaps even rescind it.

Thank you for your time, and if you have any questions, comments or concerns, feel free to send a TG in reply to me!

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Postby Kikpar » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:47 am

Blood Wine wrote:So this actually isn't a TBR occupation

It's not, we just helped Leningrad seize the delegacy at update in the middle of a tag, we don't have anyone there endorsing him now.

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Postby Anonymousfreedom » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:01 pm

We MUST vote for this. The Black Riders have become too powerful. Your region, could be the next one to be destroyed. The only way to destroy TBR is to slowly cut off the regions they can take. We at the TEK are already doing this! it is time for YOU to take part, and put in your vote.

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Postby Tantricia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:01 pm

Voting against, as any informed delegate should be doing, regardless of TG spam.

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Postby Blood Wine » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:04 pm

Anonymousfreedom wrote:We MUST vote for this. The Black Riders have become too powerful. Your region, could be the next one to be destroyed. The only way to destroy TBR is to slowly cut off the regions they can take. We at the TEK are already doing this! it is time for YOU to take part, and put in your vote.


Didn't nazi germany start like this? //joking
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Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
Sedgistan wrote:Attempted threadjack on sandwiches and satanism removed.
[4:27 PM] Antigone: Port Blood = Gameplay Jesus
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:07 pm

Anonymousfreedom wrote:We MUST vote for this. The Black Riders have become too powerful. Your region, could be the next one to be destroyed. The only way to destroy TBR is to slowly cut off the regions they can take. We at the TEK are already doing this! it is time for YOU to take part, and put in your vote.

for the last fucking time this was not a god damn black rider raid
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Postby Shaktirajya » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:27 pm

I am really tired of these Black Riders. They destroyed "Anarchy" which had a lot of interesting information about Anarchism, including links to interesting and informative websites, websites which I no longer have access to, thanks to this most ludicrous occupation. How hard is it to create a bunch of puppets with no substance and no thought behind them to rush and then irrevocably destroy a region of substance? I find it absolutely outrageous that this is allowed to continue. I believe stricter measures must be taken than a merely nominal tip of the hat to "liberating" a region which doesn't do anything of substance. We have seen Anarchy "liberated" by SC decree before, but what really has changed? I vote FOR this resolution in principle but as I said I believe stronger punitive measures must be taken.

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Postby The Leningrad Union » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:30 pm

Shaktirajya wrote:I am really tired of these Black Riders. They destroyed "Anarchy" which had a lot of interesting information about Anarchism, including links to interesting and informative websites, websites which I no longer have access to, thanks to this most ludicrous occupation. How hard is it to create a bunch of puppets with no substance and no thought behind them to rush and then irrevocably destroy a region of substance? I find it absolutely outrageous that this is allowed to continue. I believe stricter measures must be taken than a merely nominal tip of the hat to "liberating" a region which doesn't do anything of substance. We have seen Anarchy "liberated" by SC decree before, but what really has changed? I vote FOR this resolution in principle but as I said I believe stronger punitive measures must be taken.

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Refer to the post above yours
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Postby Desu Reich » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:31 pm

This has only managed to get positive votes because of these horrible propaganda telegrams aimed at people who do not know any better.
Cormac deserves a good condemnation for this blatant hypocrisy.

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Postby The Leningrad Union » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:33 pm

Desu Reich wrote:This has only managed to get positive votes because of these horrible propaganda telegrams aimed at people who do not know any better.
Cormac deserves a good condemnation for this blatant hypocrisy.

Thanks. :clap:

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Postby Desu Reich » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:36 pm

I hate the black riders as much as anyone else, if not more.
But I don't know if I hate Osiris even more!
What Cormac and Dourian are doing is disgusting, the Security Council is not a weapon.

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Postby Cormac A Stark » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:48 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
Cormac A Stark wrote:That was quick. I was just about to post a thread. :P

If you want to edit the post of yours I'm quoting to include the proposal text, I can split it (and all the replies) out so it becomes the OP.

Done, Sedge.

---

In regard to whether or not this is a TBR raid, I will say once again that TBR is listed on the WFE and had more participants in the raid than any other participating region. The other regions involved are noted in the liberation resolution as well.

Leningrad Union's apparent assertion that this isn't a raid at all, and he's just securing the region, contradicts his own propaganda in the Gameplay forum, in which he refers to "capturing" Coalition of Freedom and refers to it as a raid numerous times. I find it hilarious that he is accusing either Nephmir or me of deception when his counter-campaign includes the blatant falsehood that he is just securing the region because the previous native Delegate couldn't. That quite obviously isn't what's going on here, and makes any other claims he's making (e.g., that this isn't a Black Riders raid) incredibly suspect.

Or as he put it:

The Leningrad Union wrote:Educated GPers who manipulate and lie to ignorant and uninformed nations for their own benefit are an abomination.

:roll:
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Postby Gest » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:55 pm

Cormac A Stark wrote:
In regard to whether or not this is a TBR raid, I will say once again that TBR is listed on the WFE and had more participants in the raid than any other participating region. The other regions involved are noted in the liberation resolution as well.


Will you follow your own precedent, a rare occurrence with you, and never claim Christmas as one of your raids in the future?

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Postby Normlpeople » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:04 pm

Voted against. Just 2 days ago the former founder was telling people to abandon it, and post history has them verifying a merger with another region. If its dead, then its not worth the time.
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Postby Shizensky » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:57 pm

The RIA is voting against, and I have urged our WA members to do so individually as well.
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Postby Sternberg » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:58 pm

Since I generally despise raiders (ie: the 'griefing' types, as it were) in all shapes and forms, yet I have no hard evidence for myself as to who on earth is even remotely telling the whole truth one way or another, I'm just going to throw my hands up in despair and ABSTAIN.
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Postby Nordenwald » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:50 pm

The current administration of TEK ordered the CoF to be abandoned.

Why in the world would we liberate it? It is clear that the leaders of the region don't even care anymore.
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Postby Libhiriya » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:49 pm

CoF can burn in hell. Their founder threatened my region with a raid, there's no way I'm supporting this BS.
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Postby Leveat » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:12 pm

We are not a WA member state, but we nonetheless report that NEO Rome Republic has been ordering the members of the Confederacy of Allied States to vote against the resolution:

ATTENTION CAS: All WA Nations in this region, please vote AGAINST this proposal: http://www.nationstates.net/page=sc

I told everyone here to vote AGAINST the proposal. Apparently 2 residents here don't understand simple english. Change the vote NOW. Voting FOR will NOT be tolerated. If I find out who you are there will be consequences.

Couldn't a vote against the current Security Council Resolution be interpreted as a vote for APPEASEMENT to the Black Riders?
No. This wasn't a TBR raid, it was group raid by different regions. The TBR is NOT the one in charge there.


They hold Seat #4 on our Higher Council, so our WA members have right to fear somewhat. Our Delegate is non-executive, and our Founder appears to be a puppet. It remains to be known to me whose puppet it is, but it may well be theirs.
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