[PASSED] Ban on Leaded Fuel

[Separatist Peoples]

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No I am not a lemming. Now stop suggesting otherwise, I find it a tad rude.

"The pot calls the kettle black. Interesting. You present like one. If nothing else, you should be aware of this, ambassador. You present like one...loudly. As for the comment on rudeness, well, delicate sensibilities count for fuck-all in the Festering Snakepit." Bell replies, trying to huff a bit of glue and making a very rude gesture in the general vicinity of the opposition to this bill.

[Wrapper]

We prefer to think that our skilled debate, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that (1) leaded fuel is harmful, (2) the cost of using unleaded fuel over leaded fuel is negligible, and (3) any costs in switching over are offset by reduced costs in health care, automobile maintenance and repair, and fuel economy, has shed some light on this issue.

Or it could be that the Yakusan ambassador is a lemming in disguise.

But we'll go with our first argument.

No I am not a lemming. Now stop suggesting otherwise, I find it a tad rude.

Ah, of course not. So it is our skilled debate that has swayed you. Cheers!

[Chester Pearson]

No I am not a lemming. Now stop suggesting otherwise, I find it a tad rude.

Could have fooled anybody that is following the debate.... I was actually giving you a compliment, but you are the one test read into it.

[United industrial]

This is crazy does not have any compensation for those of us who essentially will have to rebuild are are auto industry. This is asking us to sacrifice money and jobs for protecting the environment and I don't think it is a fair and I fully disagree and vote against this unjust piece of legislation.

[Jakuso]

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No I am not a lemming. Now stop suggesting otherwise, I find it a tad rude.

"The pot calls the kettle black. Interesting. You present like one. If nothing else, you should be aware of this, ambassador. You present like one...loudly. As for the comment on rudeness, well, delicate sensibilities count for fuck-all in the Festering Snakepit." Bell replies, trying to huff a bit of glue and making a very rude gesture in the general vicinity of the opposition to this bill.

You didn't get the message no? Still being rude and swearing now! Tell me ambassador, do you kiss your mother with that mouth? I certainly hope not!

No I am not a lemming. Now stop suggesting otherwise, I find it a tad rude.

Ah, of course not. So it is our skilled debate that has swayed you. Cheers!

No it was a decision that we came to after much consideration.

No I am not a lemming. Now stop suggesting otherwise, I find it a tad rude.

Could have fooled anybody that is following the debate.... I was actually giving you a compliment, but you are the one test read into it.

What are you talking about Chester? If you're going to be on this council and try to criticise me, please try to make sense in doing so.

[Panait]

This is crazy does not have any compensation for those of us who essentially will have to rebuild are are auto industry. This is asking us to sacrifice money and jobs for protecting the environment and I don't think it is a fair and I fully disagree and vote against this unjust piece of legislation.

You know they did give you some time and quite loose quotas. Also, stop coughing while I am talking to you.

[Separatist Peoples]

You didn't get the message no? Still being rude and swearing now! Tell me ambassador, do you kiss your mother with that mouth? I certainly hope not!

"There's no message to get from you. All you do is bluster and spew viscous shit everywhere. Despite your protests, you present yourself as a lemming voter. That, or you just enjoy being unpleasant. I suspect both.

"And besides, I am a product of the C.D.S.P. Naval Officer Corps. I have no mother; I was assembled from spare parts in a Shiprock Hold Naval Base warehouse. All officers are. Well, the good ones at least."

[Defwa]

We prefer to think that our skilled debate, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that (1) leaded fuel is harmful, (2) the cost of using unleaded fuel over leaded fuel is negligible, and (3) any costs in switching over are offset by reduced costs in health care, automobile maintenance and repair, and fuel economy, has shed some light on this issue.

Or it could be that the Yakusan ambassador is a lemming in disguise.

But we'll go with our first argument.

No I am not a lemming. Now stop suggesting otherwise, I find it a tad rude.

It does make sense considering your performance in past debates. You equate voting numbers with righteousness and resisted scientific and economic fact provided to you repeatedly only to finally capitulate when the proposal started winning.

[Macwick]

Is your military so poor that its using the same outdated fuel technology as the poorest of your nation? Odds are, if they're so poor as to still require leaded fuel vehicles which most nations all but abandoned decades ago, that ten year vehicular life cycle is long gone anyway.

I believe that the representative from Defwa has misunderstood me. I was not saying that only the poor used leaded fuelled vehicles I was saying that the cost of conversion or using an additive would affect them harder than the richer members of our society.

To hear some of my colleagues talk about how little the extra cost will be reminds me of something Mr Micawber from David Copperfield said, “Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” (For those who don’t understand the Old British money six pence the amount under and over income is 2.5 pence today.)

I am disheartened by some of the arguments in favour of this proposal. Our esteemed colleague from Bears Armed Mission has identified an issue, which one has to assume he thinks is of major importance hence this proposal in front of us. But when representatives from other nations state this proposal will cause them some hardship they are answered by the call, why are you still using leaded fuel? Or the number of users of unleaded fuel is small so the cost will be small. If market forces have made the use of leaded fuel such a minority form of fuel then why are we discussing this proposal to end its use within four years? Wouldn’t market forces on their own end its use in time?

[Defwa]

Is your military so poor that its using the same outdated fuel technology as the poorest of your nation? Odds are, if they're so poor as to still require leaded fuel vehicles which most nations all but abandoned decades ago, that ten year vehicular life cycle is long gone anyway.

I believe that the representative from Defwa has misunderstood me. I was not saying that only the poor used leaded fuelled vehicles I was saying that the cost of conversion or using an additive would affect them harder than the richer members of our society.

To hear some of my colleagues talk about how little the extra cost will be reminds me of something Mr Micawber from David Copperfield said, “Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” (For those who don’t understand the Old British money six pence the amount under and over income is 2.5 pence today.)

I am disheartened by some of the arguments in favour of this proposal. Our esteemed colleague from Bears Armed Mission has identified an issue, which one has to assume he thinks is of major importance hence this proposal in front of us. But when representatives from other nations state this proposal will cause them some hardship they are answered by the call, why are you still using leaded fuel? Or the number of users of unleaded fuel is small so the cost will be small. If market forces have made the use of leaded fuel such a minority form of fuel then why are we discussing this proposal to end its use within four years? Wouldn’t market forces on their own end its use in time?

Market forces are known to leave remnants that take a while to die out naturally. Regulation such as this forces that final push.
In the meantime, even minor use is a public health concern.

The main concern, however, remains that some nations have chosen, for one reason or another, to ignore decades of technological development. These nations are ridiculous and need an international kick in the ass. They have avoided short term expense- probably to dodge political responsibility at the cost of the health of their public. These make up a small portion of the international community just as leaded fuel users make up a small portion of your nation's population- but if you don't force the issue on some people, they will never address it.

[Jakuso]

There's no message to get from you. All you do is bluster and spew viscous shit everywhere. Despite your protests, you present yourself as a lemming voter. That, or you just enjoy being unpleasant. I suspect both.

"And besides, I am a product of the C.D.S.P. Naval Officer Corps. I have no mother; I was assembled from spare parts in a Shiprock Hold Naval Base warehouse. All officers are. Well, the good ones at least.

Ambassador, I don't give a damn where you came from. You're acting rude and I am getting tired of if. You're not contributing to tho debate by saying what you're saying, so stop. Or leave.

[Defwa]

There's no message to get from you. All you do is bluster and spew viscous shit everywhere. Despite your protests, you present yourself as a lemming voter. That, or you just enjoy being unpleasant. I suspect both.

"And besides, I am a product of the C.D.S.P. Naval Officer Corps. I have no mother; I was assembled from spare parts in a Shiprock Hold Naval Base warehouse. All officers are. Well, the good ones at least.

Ambassador, I don't give a damn where you came from. You're acting rude and I am getting tired of if. You're not contributing to tho debate by saying what you're saying, so stop. Or leave.

He's trying to make sure you keep your come backs accurate. For instance, one might say "Do you kiss your organ bin with that mouth"

[Wrapper]

You're not contributing to tho debate by saying what you're saying, so stop. Or leave.

Ummm... hate to break it to you....

But now, ahem, to get back on topic, we do hope you enjoy your conversion to unleaded fuel. Cheers!

[East Klent]

"The Klentian government, while slightly wary of the possible temporary economic effects of banning leaded fuel in the global community, support this bill wholeheartedly as the furtherment of the protection of the environment. As delegate, I have approved this bill ans so I shall vote for it now."

-Jarred Michael Stevens,
Delegate for Klent and The Heartland.

[Krankor]

The planet of Krankor has a proud tradition of spacecraft powered by lignite/anthracite. We view this measure as nothing less than an attempt to cripple nations with coal-powered spacecraft. Voting Against.

[Separatist Peoples]

He's trying to make sure you keep your come backs accurate. For instance, one might say "Do you kiss your organ bin with that mouth"

"I suppose the accurate statement there would be "Do you kiss your Drill Instructor with that mouth?" to which the only acceptable reply is "SIR, ONLY WHEN THE DRILL INSTRUCTOR IS LOOKING PARTICULARLY HANDSOME, SIR!"."

[Wrapper]

The planet of Krankor has a proud tradition of spacecraft powered by lignite/anthracite. We view this measure as nothing less than an attempt to cripple nations with coal-powered spacecraft. Voting Against.

This is the most ridiculous thing we've heard all day. Just how far do your coal-powered spacecraft fly?

OOC: neither lignite nor anthracite are gas-generating propellants. You won't get enough thrust out of them to reach escape velocity.

[Separatist Peoples]

The planet of Krankor has a proud tradition of spacecraft powered by lignite/anthracite. We view this measure as nothing less than an attempt to cripple nations with coal-powered spacecraft. Voting Against.

This is the most ridiculous thing we've heard all day. Just how far do your coal-powered spacecraft fly?

OOC: neither lignite nor anthracite are gas-generating propellants. You won't get enough thrust out of them to reach escape velocity.

"To be fair, there is such a thing as a space elevator, which would get them past escape velocity."

[The Eternal Kawaii]

In the Name of the Eternal Kawaii, may the Cute One be praised

The early returns from Anime being strongly in favor of the proposal, we are pleased to vote Yes. Historically, Anime has usually favored environmental proposals, so we expect our vote will stand here.

[Jakuso]

He's trying to make sure you keep your come backs accurate. For instance, one might say "Do you kiss your organ bin with that mouth"

"I suppose the accurate statement there would be "Do you kiss your Drill Instructor with that mouth?" to which the only acceptable reply is "SIR, ONLY WHEN THE DRILL INSTRUCTOR IS LOOKING PARTICULARLY HANDSOME, SIR!"."

Then why don't you just run back to your drill instructor and leave us adults to debate.

[Chester Pearson]

There's no message to get from you. All you do is bluster and spew viscous shit everywhere. Despite your protests, you present yourself as a lemming voter. That, or you just enjoy being unpleasant. I suspect both.

"And besides, I am a product of the C.D.S.P. Naval Officer Corps. I have no mother; I was assembled from spare parts in a Shiprock Hold Naval Base warehouse. All officers are. Well, the good ones at least.

Ambassador, I don't give a damn where you came from. You're acting rude and I am getting tired of if. You're not contributing to tho debate by saying what you're saying, so stop. Or leave.

I am sorry, but were you made a moderator just recently? I don't believe you are the OP of this thread, so you have no right to tell people to leave.

[Defwa]

"I suppose the accurate statement there would be "Do you kiss your Drill Instructor with that mouth?" to which the only acceptable reply is "SIR, ONLY WHEN THE DRILL INSTRUCTOR IS LOOKING PARTICULARLY HANDSOME, SIR!"."

Then why don't you just run back to your drill instructor and leave us adults to debate.

He raised a valid concern about your activity here- you know, the grand standing and such

[Separatist Peoples]

Then why don't you just run back to your drill instructor and leave us adults to debate.

Bell sighs, "Gradeschool-level insults aside, Ambassador, you have no authority on which to dismiss me from these chambers. Were such a power vested in the delegacies here, you would have been shown the door long ago by popular demand.

"At any rate, this seems to be doing well at vote. The Bears must be quite pleased."

[Afro-Euasia]

I ask all nations to vote agenst this resloution because if this is passed,All delovped nations will be hit very hard and only the most powerful nations will survive and then conquer the world,devloping nations will be destroied while the devloped ones will just be hit and then recover.

[Defwa]

I ask all nations to vote agenst this resloution because if this is passed,All delovped nations will be hit very hard and only the most powerful nations will survive and then conquer the world,devloping nations will be destroied while the devloped ones will just be hit and then recover.

The only reason to be using leaded fuels in this day and age is because you started using them forty years ago.
There's no reason for developing nations not to use cheaper, safer, modern technology- you don't have to make the same industrial age mistakes as those more fortunate.