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Bears Armed Mission
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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:08 am

Submitted: Delegates, please approve.
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Re: [DRAFT] Ban on Leaded Fuel

Postby Jakuso » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:47 am

Valendia wrote:
Jakuso wrote:But that's our decision. The Yakusan Environmental Agency have researched the topic and have found no actionable risk. We haven't noticed any related health problems of people living in areas where there is a presence of leaded fuel use. But our opinion on this matter is very much divided back at the Yakusan Foreign Ministry. We could, if we see suitable reason, come to a different conclusion for our vote on this proposal.


"Does the YEA happen to get their bottom line from a consortium of petrochemical corporate representatives, perchance?"


Nnnnnnn no.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:02 am

Jakuso wrote:Nnnnnnn no.

"And yet, the Jakusan ambassador manages to come to a debate armed with backward backwards science and the economic prowess of a turnip. It sounds like a clever business rep manage to pull the wool over the eyes of the YEA to me. No shame in that, learned is what you are after the briefing, and you can't help having been lied to. The same has happened to me before."

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Postby Wrapper » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:07 am

If we could clarify some wording, please:
Bears Armed Mission wrote:Defining the term ‘leaded fuel’ to mean any fuel mixture including organometallic compounds of Lead, or of any other metal of comparable or worse toxicity

We assume this to mean "fuel mixture including organometallic compounds of either (1) lead or (2) any other metal of comparable or worse toxicity", and not, "fuel mixture including either (1) organometallic compounds of lead, or (2) any other metal of comparable or worse toxicity". Yes?

In case it's not clear, the first definition would cover using organometallic compounds of, say, mercury, but would not cover the use of radioactive toxic fuels (which, in reactors, don't actually get emitted anyway), while the second would cover both.

Makes a difference to many space-faring nations, of course. We can't support a ban on nuclear fuels, especially if "vehicle" is taken to mean all vehicles (as clarified previously) and not just cars.

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Bears Armed Mission
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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:14 am

The former. Does the seconcd "of" really not make that clear enough?

(And remember that in the event of the interpretation being disputed within your nation it would, as usual, be up to your own nation's courts -- acting reasonably, and in good faith -- to make the decision...)
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Postby Asrtotzka » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:29 am

Defwa wrote:OOC: Is Asrtotzka living in that iron curtain era fictional eastern European setting from Papers Please? I'm trying to figure out the disconnect from modern technology


OOC: You're on the right way, but not in the 1982 as in the videogame, but in the present. Of course I know a leaded fuel car can work with unleaded fuel (even not modifying the engines, what can simply reduce its lifespan and performance), but these poor people has a lack of technology and technical knowledge that I'm trying to imitate. Probably there are technicians and engineers that knows the unleaded fuel technology, but bureaucracy and repression could affect the flow of information from experts to political elites.


Normlpeople wrote:OOC: Since Clover isn't a mechanic. Cats weren't on the older leaded vehicles, they are emissions only devices. Since GAR #257 already requires nations to take action to curb those, you are likely already using something similar...


OOC: Thanks, I'll read the GAR #257 to give my nation a slap on the wrist.


Normlpeople wrote:As far as making engines goes, its a simple change in material on the valve seats. Everything else is the same. Not really industry breaking.


OOC:Thank you very much for that info, but I already knew that. See my first paragraph :hug:

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Postby Wrapper » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:41 am

Bears Armed Mission wrote:The former. Does the seconcd "of" really not make that clear enough?

In times like these, my Urrsish friend, it's always nice to be sure. Of course, you have our full support.

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Postby The Eternal Kawaii » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:20 am

Bears Armed Mission wrote:Submitted: Delegates, please approve.


In the name of the Eternal Kawaii, may the Cute One be praised

As a nation committed to the preservation of the environment and of peoples' health, we are pleased to approve this proposal for vote.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:06 pm

Bears Armed Mission wrote:Submitted: Delegates, please approve.

Done. :)
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:41 am

Wow, that reached quorum quickly. Well done! Looks like we'll be voting on this in a few hours.

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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:14 am

Wrapper wrote:Wow, that reached quorum quickly. Well done! Looks like we'll be voting on this in a few hours.
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Thank you. This being at the head of the list right from when it was subnitted, and the only proposal in the list for most of the first 19 hours that it was there (out the c.27 hours that it took to reach quorum) probably helped.

In case anybody's curious about the extent of my lobbying: I TGed 290 delegates, targeting ones who had voted for my most recent resolution and/or that I knew to have 'Green' sympathies, with 253 of those messages getting through as against 37 blocked. Delegates with at least 1 'yonkh' (i.e. sixty-four) votes each were contacted individually, as were a few other delegates who have fewer votes but with whom the Bears have particularly good histories, the rest in batches of [mostly] 7 or 8 at a time. One delegate who was on my list of potential supporters (namely NewTexas) gave their approval very quickly, before I got that far down the list, and of course some delegates whom I didn't contact chose to support the proposal anyhows.

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Postby Hakio » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:29 am

Congratulations on reaching quorum!

Pops a bottle of champagne. Cork hits my secretary in the eye.

Watch where you're standing! Temp workers... oh! I almost forgot-- I'll be right back everyone, I'll get the keg.
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Postby Mundiferrum » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:36 am

Congratulations for reaching quorum! And here, a little present from Mundiferrum.
Since we hope that this resolution will have an easy time passing, our King has decided to act a bit cocky with his present. Behold....Mundiferrum's only automobile built with the clear purpose of using only leaded fuel!
Gravey remotely turns on the vehicle. Large amounts of smoke belch out of its exhaust. To leaded fuel never being used again!
....
*Cough cough cough* Okay, this *cough cough cough* was a ba*cough COUGH cough*d idea..*cough cough cough*..
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"Call me Gravey. Only my really close friends call me Marcus, and I don't think we're that close yet. Maybe."
No, we are not a nation of cat people. We're all humans (and a few annoying gnomes) here. The cat's just there because our king is such a genius, he saw that it would be a good military strategy to have a distractingly cute flag, to blind our enemies to (our) victory!
Technological level: FUTURE TECH. We also have MAGICAL TECH, and a lot of the people here still play with MEDIEVAL TECH and PRESENT TECH. We're cool that way.

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Postby Hakio » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:22 am

Mundiferrum wrote:Congratulations for reaching quorum! And here, a little present from Mundiferrum.
Since we hope that this resolution will have an easy time passing, our King has decided to act a bit cocky with his present. Behold....Mundiferrum's only automobile built with the clear purpose of using only leaded fuel!
Gravey remotely turns on the vehicle. Large amounts of smoke belch out of its exhaust. To leaded fuel never being used again!
....
*Cough cough cough* Okay, this *cough cough cough* was a ba*cough COUGH cough*d idea..*cough cough cough*..


Drunk on champagne slurring her words.

Secretary! You... you should send that Ambassador a nice gift of ... of Hakii chocolates in the hospital. He's a good man! Though the leaded-ed car idea was not ... brilliant. By the way, if I may make a predica-diction, I think that our Committee of Fedora-ists will vote Yay in this vote. I can't promise anything! But ... I have a feeling ... what's that feeling ...

Passes out.
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:28 am

Hey... (cough) with all that... (cough) that's com... (cough) that could (cough) be considered (cough)... a CHEMICAL WEAPON!

The weapon nullifiers suddenly spring into action and turn it into a gigantic, car-shaped plush toy.

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Postby Louisistan » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:35 am

The Paramedics carry Deputy Ambassador Schulz, obviously suffering from a slight carbon monoxide posioning, out of the room. Associate Ambassador Barber, having been hastily alerted rushes in from the bar. "Wha'ss 'oing on 'ere 'en, eh? Whooooo's poisened poor Roland, eh?"
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:31 am

Once again, Mouse gets the first vote in, against. Time to put that ol' Lemming Effect "myth" to the test!

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Postby Defwa » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:35 am

Wrapper wrote:Once again, Mouse gets the first vote in, against. Time to put that ol' Lemming Effect "myth" to the test!

The margin is still close. Don't know if conditions will apply here.
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The Dark Star Republic
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:36 am

Wrapper wrote:Once again, Mouse gets the first vote in, against.

But think of the unborn -

...oh, right.

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Chester Pearson
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Postby Chester Pearson » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:06 am

Why the hell is Mouse voting against this one? What possible NatSov motivation could she have?
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Jakuso
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Postby Jakuso » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:22 am

Yakus' opinion on this one is very much indecisive. We are unsure as how to cast our vote. The YEA advisers are meeting with the
Yakusan Foreign Ministry's WA committee to decide.
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Frustrated Franciscans
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Postby Frustrated Franciscans » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:00 pm

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The Organic Vegan Commune of Frustrated Franciscans
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We praise You, Lord, for Sister Death!
Friar John Sanders, OFM Ambassador and WA representative
Friar Tuck Ferguson, OFM Assistant Ambassador
Brother Maynard, TOR Keeper of the Holy Hand-grenade

We are proud to stand up and support this fine resolution. We need to "get the lead out" and pass this much needed resolution. On the other hand, I am worried about the long term implications of this. Without lead in our petroleum, future generations of potential ambassadors will no longer be mentally impaired because of long term lead poisoning. Reasonable and rational resolutions might even be proposed and (gasp) passed. The power and control of the WA could increase dramatically.

Thank goodness ambassadors also have recreational drugs to keep them stupid.
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Postby South Pacific Republic » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:22 pm

Does any country in NS actually use leaded gas?

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Hakio
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Postby Hakio » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:00 pm

South Pacific Republic wrote:Does any country in NS actually use leaded gas?

I'm sure there are many.
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Annadelle
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Postby Annadelle » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:08 pm

"The Kingdom of Annadelle and Her Majesty do support this resolution and we are proud to announce that Annadelle already has rules against the use of leaded fuel. We champion green energy sources and use of electrical cars as well as animal power. We SUPPORT this resolution and encourage all our esteemed fellow nations to do the same."
-Kristoffer Bjorkman, Annadelle Ambassador to the WA

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