[PASSED] Ban on Leaded Fuel

[Jakuso]

Then why don't you just run back to your drill instructor and leave us adults to debate.

Bell sighs, "Gradeschool-level insults aside, Ambassador, you have no authority on which to dismiss me from these chambers. Were such a power vested in the delegacies here, you would have been shown the door long ago by popular demand.

"At any rate, this seems to be doing well at vote. The Bears must be quite pleased."

Well, someone's a hypocrite!

But seriously, enough childish arguing. Let the debate continue as normal and intended.

[Afro-Euasia]

I ask all nations to vote agenst this resloution because if this is passed,All delovped nations will be hit very hard and only the most powerful nations will survive and then conquer the world,devloping nations will be destroied while the devloped ones will just be hit and then recover.

The only reason to be using leaded fuels in this day and age is because you started using them forty years ago.
There's no reason for developing nations not to use cheaper, safer, modern technology- you don't have to make the same industrial age mistakes as those more fortunate.

Our economy is not delvoped enough to get our oil,If we cant get our oil,We cant have the industry,we Lose half of our ecomony and we lost our money that out budget needs.If a devloped nation that already has a devloped ecomony,their industry is ready,and they have the money to switch their oil,This is just for the command ecomony.The market ecomony will only have big corporations and then the market narrows down to the best "Survival of the fittest",This is not good for goverments and also corporations.

[Panait]

Our economy is not delvoped enough to get our oil,If we cant get our oil,We cant have the industry,we Lose half of our ecomony and we lost our money that out budget needs.If a devloped nation that already has a devloped ecomony,their industry is ready,and they have the money to switch their oil,This is just for the command ecomony.The market ecomony will only have big corporations and then the market narrows down to the best "Survival of the fittest",This is not good for goverments and also corporations.

Consider switching to service economy with the 4 year quota the resolution has given you. Develop gambling, tourism, or anything. Many industries do not require oil directly. You can also consider importing oil. Also, (IC) our country, though not having a very strong economy, can lend you cheap loans for developing cheap energy (/IC). Lastly, stop coughing while I'm talking to you.

[Mundiferrum]

The only reason to be using leaded fuels in this day and age is because you started using them forty years ago.
There's no reason for developing nations not to use cheaper, safer, modern technology- you don't have to make the same industrial age mistakes as those more fortunate.

Our economy is not delvoped enough to get our oil,If we cant get our oil,We cant have the industry,we Lose half of our ecomony and we lost our money that out budget needs.If a devloped nation that already has a devloped ecomony,their industry is ready,and they have the money to switch their oil,This is just for the command ecomony.The market ecomony will only have big corporations and then the market narrows down to the best "Survival of the fittest",This is not good for goverments and also corporations.

AND lead in fuel is an additive, NEVER found in raw oil. I believe that's already been established in the debate....

[Araraukar]

The main concern, however, remains that some nations have chosen, for one reason or another, to ignore decades of technological development. These nations are ridiculous and need an international kick in the ass.

A future tech nation would probably point out that anyone who's not using clean fusion reactors to produce electricity is "ridiculous and need an international kick in the ass" to switch over to a non-polluting power source. I'm sure the Defwan leadership wouldn't want to be called backwards idiots either, by some more advanced nation.

IF the technology for safer/cleaner systems is available to a nation, and not extremely cost-prohibitive [OOC: that means that the nation's chosen tech level allows for this - we can't force everyone to adopt modern tech] to use and manufacture, then I readily agree that I can't see why a sensible nation would continue to use leaded fuel. Or develop leaded fuel in the first place.

Still, remember that not all nation's are on your level technologically; some are above you, some below you, and some to the side so far you can barely see them.

"I suppose the accurate statement there would be "Do you kiss your Drill Instructor with that mouth?" to which the only acceptable reply is "SIR, ONLY WHEN THE DRILL INSTRUCTOR IS LOOKING PARTICULARLY HANDSOME, SIR!"."

OOC: That damn near made me snort orange juice.

[Defwa]

The main concern, however, remains that some nations have chosen, for one reason or another, to ignore decades of technological development. These nations are ridiculous and need an international kick in the ass.

A future tech nation would probably point out that anyone who's not using clean fusion reactors to produce electricity is "ridiculous and need an international kick in the ass" to switch over to a non-polluting power source. I'm sure the Defwan leadership wouldn't want to be called backwards idiots either, by some more advanced nation.

IF the technology for safer/cleaner systems is available to a nation, and not extremely cost-prohibitive [OOC: that means that the nation's chosen tech level allows for this - we can't force everyone to adopt modern tech] to use and manufacture, then I readily agree that I can't see why a sensible nation would continue to use leaded fuel. Or develop leaded fuel in the first place.

Still, remember that not all nation's are on your level technologically; some are above you, some below you, and some to the side so far you can barely see them.

"I suppose the accurate statement there would be "Do you kiss your Drill Instructor with that mouth?" to which the only acceptable reply is "SIR, ONLY WHEN THE DRILL INSTRUCTOR IS LOOKING PARTICULARLY HANDSOME, SIR!"."

OOC: That damn near made me snort orange juice.

OOC: I mean if it's readily available in neighboring nations, then why not? Their complaint was that developed nations would take advantage of developing nations because developing nation would all collapse under the weight of unleaded fuel. So the technology is obviously there and available.

[Frustrated Franciscans]

Does any country in NS actually use leaded gas?

You know, I am not so sure (innocent look). Hey don't blame me, I was never in the ministry of fuel standards. I don't know. Really.

We should pass it just to be sure. We must pass this bill to find out what was in our gas previously!

[Araraukar]

OOC: I mean if it's readily available in neighboring nations, then why not? Their complaint was that developed nations would take advantage of developing nations because developing nation would all collapse under the weight of unleaded fuel. So the technology is obviously there and available.

OOC: Not always, as it's not unheard of neighbouring nations not being best buddies over a variety of reasons - for RL example, take North and South Korea. Would SK hand over all its technology to NK freely?

[Defwa]

OOC: I mean if it's readily available in neighboring nations, then why not? Their complaint was that developed nations would take advantage of developing nations because developing nation would all collapse under the weight of unleaded fuel. So the technology is obviously there and available.

OOC: Not always, as it's not unheard of neighbouring nations not being best buddies over a variety of reasons - for RL example, take North and South Korea. Would SK hand over all its technology to NK freely?

OOC: Well china would/does. And I shudder to imagine a world where it would be impossible for a competent government to nab a few car parts. Its not like giving away the schematic to a fifth generation fighter.

[Bears Armed Mission]

"if there's any memebr nation that needs the technology, but that can't obtain it from any of their 'neighbours', then they could certainly buy the necessary details from urrs at a rreasonable price."

*<waves stack of blueprints in the air>*

Ursiosina RedRose,
Commercial Attaché, Bears Armed Mission at the World Assembly.

[Parliamentary Republic 4077]

Regardless of which side one is on why must this be a decision for the wa.
The argument of leaded fuel restrictions involves national policies on the economy, trade, energy, and quality of life.
These are issues which are most effectively handled by individual nation states.
It should be for every nation state to determine wether leaded fuel is right for them.
Therefore, in defence of national sovereignty My State is compelled to vote con

[Polonia Overlordship]

Greetings, WA.
I would like to share with you fact that the most voting Pacific citizens (76%) vote for this proposal.

Pacific's WA marshal
Khandov

[Wherearewe]

Regardless of which side one is on why must this be a decision for the wa.
The argument of leaded fuel restrictions involves national policies on the economy, trade, energy, and quality of life.
These are issues which are most effectively handled by individual nation states.
It should be for every nation state to determine wether leaded fuel is right for them.
Therefore, in defence of national sovereignty My State is compelled to vote con

Yeah, right. Lead respects national borders and does not do any harm in other states.
No, seriously, this is an international problem- and you are wrong.

[Parliamentary Republic 4077]

Our economy is not delvoped enough to get our oil,If we cant get our oil,We cant have the industry,we Lose half of our ecomony and we lost our money that out budget needs.If a devloped nation that already has a devloped ecomony,their industry is ready,and they have the money to switch their oil,This is just for the command ecomony.The market ecomony will only have big corporations and then the market narrows down to the best "Survival of the fittest",This is not good for goverments and also corporations.

Consider switching to service economy with the 4 year quota the resolution has given you. Develop gambling, tourism, or anything. Many industries do not require oil directly. You can also consider importing oil. Also, (IC) our country, though not having a very strong economy, can lend you cheap loans for developing cheap energy (/IC). Lastly, stop coughing while I'm talking to you.

This is the problem with this resolution. If your economy is not developed enough you must change it. WA are not concerned with the effects this resolution will have on individual economies. This resolution is only going to damage poorer states and remove choice from others.

[Wrapper]

This is the problem with this resolution. If your economy is not developed enough you must change it. WA are not concerned with the effects this resolution will have on individual economies. This resolution is only going to damage poorer states and remove choice from others.

You're poisoning your people. You must be stopped!

[Parliamentary Republic 4077]

This is the problem with this resolution. If your economy is not developed enough you must change it. WA are not concerned with the effects this resolution will have on individual economies. This resolution is only going to damage poorer states and remove choice from others.

You're poisoning your people. You must be stopped!

I am not poisoning people my state passed a law banning leaded fuel. I am just arguing that all other states be given the freedom to make these decisions as my and countless other states have.

[Wrapper]

I am not poisoning people my state passed a law banning leaded fuel. I am just arguing that all other states be given the freedom to make these decisions as my and countless other states have.

They're poisoning their people. They must be stopped!

Fixed. Happy now?

[Parliamentary Republic 4077]

I am not poisoning people my state passed a law banning leaded fuel. I am just arguing that all other states be given the freedom to make these decisions as my and countless other states have.

They're poisoning their people. They must be stopped!

Fixed. Happy now?

I am in agreement with you on the need to progress to more stable, efficient, and environmentally beneficial fuel.
Our only disagreement is by what mechanism. I say leave it to individual nation states and you to the General Assembly.
I ask you to convince me that your mechanism is better than mine.

[Wrapper]

Fixed. Happy now?

I am in agreement with you on the need to progress to more stable, efficient, and environmentally beneficial fuel.
Our only disagreement is by what mechanism. I say leave it to individual nation states and you to the General Assembly.
I ask you to convince me that your mechanism is better than mine.

This assembly's purpose is to improve the world, one resolution at a time. As we've stated numerous times in this debate, evidence shows that the short-term issues are negligible compared to the long-term benefit of using unleaded fuel only. Fewer people will get lead poisoning, meaning lower health care costs, not to mention, lower costs in automobile maintenance, better fuel economy, etc. As such, the passage of this resolution will indeed improve the world.

Now, what have you done to improve the world?

[Parliamentary Republic 4077]

I am in agreement with you on the need to progress to more stable, efficient, and environmentally beneficial fuel.
Our only disagreement is by what mechanism. I say leave it to individual nation states and you to the General Assembly.
I ask you to convince me that your mechanism is better than mine.

This assembly's purpose is to improve the world, one resolution at a time. As we've stated numerous times in this debate, evidence shows that the short-term issues are negligible compared to the long-term benefit of using unleaded fuel only. Fewer people will get lead poisoning, meaning lower health care costs, not to mention, lower costs in automobile maintenance, better fuel economy, etc. As such, the passage of this resolution will indeed improve the world.

Now, what have you done to improve the world?

Not much. And I see your logic understanding it to be correct in this case.
However, must it always come at the cost of national decision making.
Is it possible for the general assembly to act softly.
To improve the world by giving more powers back to nation state governments

[Separatist Peoples]

Not much. And I see your logic understanding it to be correct in this case.
However, must it always come at the cost of national decision making.
Is it possible for the general assembly to act softly.
To improve the world by giving more powers back to nation state governments

"There are some issues that are better handled by a supranational entity. Issues regarding the environment are one example. If you disagree that there are issues best handled by a supranational entity, I wonder why you are even here, as membership is entirely voluntary."

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

I really hope you don't mean to suggest that just because a "supranational entity" is addressing an environmental concern automatically means it's something worthy of passage in the WA, Ambassador Bell.

At the very least, this resolution's complete turnaround in fortune since its first day at vote demonstrates that a resolution cannot be "stomped" by a single-trigger-happy delegate with a large vote total. Which I suppose is a good thing.

Congrats, Bears Armed. Your next round at the Strangers' Bar is on us. Our bar-tab is way too long for Neville to possibly expect us to pay it all off, anyway.

[Separatist Peoples]

I really hope you don't mean to suggest that just because a "supranational entity" is addressing an environmental concern automatically means it's something worthy of passage in the WA, Ambassador Bell.

At the very least, this resolution's complete turnaround in fortune since its first day at vote demonstrates that a resolution cannot be "stomped" by a single-trigger-happy delegate with a large vote total. Which I suppose is a good thing.

Congrats, Bears Armed. Your next round at the Strangers' Bar is on us. Our bar-tab is way too long for Neville to possibly expect us to pay it all off, anyway.

"The very thought! I'm a National Soverigntist, same as you, ambassador. Simply explaining why the approach of "Lets always leave everything to national governments!" is a nonargument, generally. Such nuance is often lost on the newer arrivals!"

[Panait]

...must it always come at the cost of national decision making.
Is it possible for the general assembly to act softly.
To improve the world by giving more powers back to nation state governments

Quote FAQ:

...it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will be affected by any resolutions that pass. (Unfortunately you can't obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations.)...
*Bold added ourselves

This very quote nullifies the 'give more power back to nation state governments', which essentially means letting the nations decide how and when to implement a passed resolution, including deciding NOT to implement it. The bold part explains it quite well.

As one fellow nation has put it above, you should quit this supranational ruling body if you cannot bear with the thought of having to obey every of its passed resolutions.

[Parliamentary Republic 4077]

...must it always come at the cost of national decision making.
Is it possible for the general assembly to act softly.
To improve the world by giving more powers back to nation state governments

Quote FAQ:

...it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will be affected by any resolutions that pass. (Unfortunately you can't obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations.)...
*Bold added ourselves

This very quote nullifies the 'give more power back to nation state governments', which essentially means letting the nations decide how and when to implement a passed resolution, including deciding NOT to implement it. The bold part explains it quite well.

As one fellow nation has put it above, you should quit this supranational ruling body if you cannot bear with the thought of having to obey every of its passed resolutions.

I mean return powers by repealing resolutions