[PASSED] Ban on Leaded Fuel

[Bears Armed]

You swapped the tags when you spoilered Ardchoille's quote,

Ah. Oops...

Still not very keen on the war exceptions in the draft.

Noted...
... although of course they'd still apply if the WA definition of "war" could be changed to something you'd consider more appropriate, and aren't specifically tied to the current definition.

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This will probably be submitted in a couple of days' time, or maybe just after the weekend, once the [NS] World Cup qualifiers are out of the way.

[Jakuso]

Yakus would be AGAINST this as we have a large number of people still using old cars running leaded fuel.

[Araraukar]

Yakus would be AGAINST this as we have a large number of people still using old cars running leaded fuel.

Old cars are often also inefficient. Additionally, many can run on non-lead fuel with the right additives.

[Defwa]

Yakus would be AGAINST this as we have a large number of people still using old cars running leaded fuel.

As has been stated repeatedly, there are lead substitutes that have negligible cost and cause fewer birth defects as well as affordable permanent vehicle modifications that would eliminate the need completely.

[Jakuso]

Yakus would be AGAINST this as we have a large number of people still using old cars running leaded fuel.

As has been stated repeatedly, there are lead substitutes that have negligible cost and cause fewer birth defects as well as affordable permanent vehicle modifications that would eliminate the need completely.

But some people may not be able to afford the additives. I know for a fact they are expensive.

[Wrapper]

But some people may not be able to afford the additives. I know for a fact they are expensive.

You really ought to educate yourself.

OOC: When the US converted in the '70s and '80s, the price difference was about two cents a gallon. For the consumer, this was offset by an increase in fuel economy and a decrease in maintenance costs. Not even going to mention the benefit to the environment, children's health, etc.

[Araraukar]

But some people may not be able to afford the additives. I know for a fact they are expensive.

People don't put the additives in the fuel, the fuel-making company does. If only thing available is unleaded fuel, the people either buy it to drive their cars or they don't drive. Simple as that.

[Jakuso]

But some people may not be able to afford the additives. I know for a fact they are expensive.

People don't put the additives in the fuel, the fuel-making company does. If only thing available is unleaded fuel, the people either buy it to drive their cars or they don't drive. Simple as that.

That would be a harsh blow to our people, one I would not vote to support.

[Defwa]

People don't put the additives in the fuel, the fuel-making company does. If only thing available is unleaded fuel, the people either buy it to drive their cars or they don't drive. Simple as that.

That would be a harsh blow to our people, one I would not vote to support.

I'm curious as to why Yakus is still using leaded fuels when engine technology has proven it's not necessary over the past forty years. There's no savings in manufacturing lead only engines over unleaded fuel engines and hasn't been for decades in most countries.

[Wrapper]

That would be a harsh blow to our people, one I would not vote to support.

Ah. Fine. Here, citizens, we've managed to save you a couple of Kravats a year on your fuel bill, just pay no attention to the lead poisoning in your children and you'll be just fine!

[Jakuso]

Those people are some of our poorest, people who just can't afford a new car or a slight tax raise.

[Separatist Peoples]

Those people are some of our poorest, people who just can't afford a new car or a slight tax raise.

"Too poor for one or two cents/gallon increase? Your people must live in utter squalor."

[Defwa]

Those people are some of our poorest, people who just can't afford a new car or a slight tax raise.

And haven't replaced a car in over twenty to forty years?
Yakus seems to be in quite poor condition

[Jakuso]

Woah woah, I said some of our people.

[Normlpeople]

OOC: A bottle of lead substitute runs about $5, and doesn't have to be used every time. Its very much a negligible expense. One can also add lead substitute to the fuels themselves instead of lead...

[Jakuso]

Those people are some of our poorest, people who just can't afford a new car or a slight tax raise.

And haven't replaced a car in over twenty to forty years?
Yakus seems to be in quite poor condition

Most of out people have very modern cars.

[Araraukar]

And haven't replaced a car in over twenty to forty years?

Most of out people have very modern cars.

A car that requires leaded fuel does not sound very modern. [OOC: Unless you're roleplaying as a past tech nation.]

[Wrapper]

Most of out people have very modern cars.

In which case THEY RUN ON UNLEADED!

Jeez....

[Separatist Peoples]

And haven't replaced a car in over twenty to forty years?
Yakus seems to be in quite poor condition

Most of out people have very modern cars.

"Then the overall economic burden will be minimal, clearly. If two cents per gallon is such an arduous burden, then clearly the state of Jakuso has bigger problems then stranding cars without fuel."

[Defwa]

If it is such a minority then I'm seeing even less of a problem. Your economy is probably losing more money on stocking the differing fuel types. You'd probably have a net gain if you subsidized the cost of upgrading.

[Jakuso]

In that case we would consider voting for this.

[Chester Pearson]

In that case we would consider voting for this.

As a (by your definition, not the real one....) "NatSov", how could you possibly consider voting for this? This places direct restrictions upon your nation. They are not advising, or recommending anything, they are telling you, and the gnomes will change your laws if this passes....

[Defwa]

In that case we would consider voting for this.

As a (by your definition, not the real one....) "NatSov", how could you possibly consider voting for this? This places direct restrictions upon your nation. They are not advising, or recommending anything, they are telling you, and the gnomes will change your laws if this passes....

Ambassador Landfree walks slowly to Mr Pearsons desk, almost as if trying to sneak.
Then, with a single finger placed over his lips, says "Shhhhhhh, you're ruining the moment."

[Jakuso]

In that case we would consider voting for this.

As a (by your definition, not the real one....) "NatSov", how could you possibly consider voting for this? This places direct restrictions upon your nation. They are not advising, or recommending anything, they are telling you, and the gnomes will change your laws if this passes....

Ambassador, can you not.

[Darkey]

That was poetry to read

I do not currently see any flaws but I'm sure there will be long conversations over the provided time span. I personally like that sort of thing- expecting immediate reconstruction of entire industrial sectors has been impeding environmental regulation for some time. I would even be supportive of more acts allowing nations time to get into compliance as they enter the World Assembly to begin with.

And all though we'll likely also see people claiming their environment is immune to lead poisoning and that global climate change doesn't exist, I would like at least a line encouraging development and use of fuels with less environmental impact than common hydrocarbon based fuels.
If you have room for a little lip service, that is.

thumbs up, nice