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Sween
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Postby Sween » Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:32 pm

Coroscent wrote:
Mundiferrum wrote:
Mr. Ambassador from Sween, sir, (Gravey says, having by the skilled hands of the medical gnomes recovered from his head wound)if you have such an opinion of the WA, I suggest you, well, get your butt out of here. That's pretty much the point of the WA there, and if you choose to veto all, or hell even just some of its resolutions, well then you're not really complying with it, which is a big no-no in these walls. And Mr. Ambassador from Coroscent, sir, just because someone does not denounce something, does not mean he or she is for it. Sween here is not necessarily being a pedophiliac. If you are to be so black-and-white in your treatment of such things, I suggest you get out of politics in general, since a huge chunk of politics is all about finding grey areas.

Now please, both of you, do stop all this shoutey nonsense - my head still hurts. Och! Damn Flutians (He mutters to himself as he exits and heads for the bar)



Mr Ambassador, I'd just like to ask you if you think it's alright for young, innocent children to be abused? Is it okay for the abusers to get away with such things? Well no it isn't. Anyone who supports child abuse is, in the eyes of the majority of this council, a pedophile, or at least a supporter of pedophilia. And if you're going to suggest I leave politics, I think perhaps look at yourself! What gives you the right to demand anyone leave this council? And before you say that I have demanded Sween leave the WA, no that was a suggestion, not an order. An I'm sure the council's majority will stand and agree with me.



It's not abuse if it's consensual. we don't allow child rape.
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Postby Wrapper » Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:33 pm

Sween wrote:It's not abuse if it's consensual. we don't allow child rape.

A child cannot consent. Period.

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Sween
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Postby Sween » Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:41 pm

Wrapper wrote:
Sween wrote:It's not abuse if it's consensual. we don't allow child rape.

A child cannot consent. Period.


Yes, they can easily say "yes" or "No" I'm not sure if you are aware, but here they would have known what they signed up for.

and also in reply to Coroscent, the one who mentioned anyone being against the ban of child porn being a paedophile...

Kim turns around and shouts:

"Bì shàng nǐ de jìnǚ kǒu!"

She proceeds to make an argument.

"I would vote "NO" on a scatology ban too. does that mean I have a scat fetish? does that mean I even support it? It's a grey area. You don't have to support something to be against a ban. Does being in favour of homosexual marriage make one gay? Does not being against homosexual marriage make one gay? No. It doesn't."
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Postby Wrapper » Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:44 pm

Sween wrote:Yes, they can easily say "yes" or "No" I'm not sure if you are aware, but here they would have known what they signed up for.

OOC: I do hope you're just role playing this argument for shits and grins.

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Postby Sween » Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:54 pm

Wrapper wrote:
Sween wrote:Yes, they can easily say "yes" or "No" I'm not sure if you are aware, but here they would have known what they signed up for.

OOC: I do hope you're just role playing this argument for shits and grins.


while personally I do find it creepy, I also think scatology is absolutely disgusting. I'm not for a ban on either. I'm heterosexual, and I'm Pro gay marriage.

banning paedophilia is the same as banning homosexuality, or telling me I'm not allowed to be an Asiaphilliac, or banning BDSM. you won't be abe t get rid of them anyway. if the kid want's same they will find it. same for the adults if they want sex with a kid.

Also in some mental cases I'm sure pornographic satisfaction can prevent rape.

Do you want to ban porn involving women, Men, the elderly, or any specific ethnic group, because they can say "yes" or No" but somehow that's not consent or refusal?

OOC: (am an Asiaphilliac IRL, love Asian women, only like Asian women. none of the others listed though.)
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Postby Ardchoille » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:21 pm

Moved to the Archives earlier than usual because the after-debate RP is turning into an attempt to further debate the general real-world topic, rather than the Resolution. It's been under discussion since June; the general arguments have been made, and the WA has expressed its opinion. A single "we wouldn't have voted for this, and here's why" post is fair enough for latecomers, but actual debate is now pointless. You can revisit the argument if there's a repeal draft.
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