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Mundiferrum
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Postby Mundiferrum » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:37 am

Traxa wrote:"some reasonable fees"
is very vague, and could easily lead to states essentially blocking adoptions form certain states for any reason, by including a multitude of "reasonable fees" It could also be misused to essentially block gays/certain ethnic groups/single parents from adopting that along with the ban against any additional rules or procedures is a definitive no.

There should be a limit on what reasonable fees are, with the only exceptions being if the child has other factors making adoption more tedious/costly such as medical conditions whereby it may cost the reciving state's agency more money when necessary medical tests are needed to be conducted to ensure the child is infact healthy enough for an international adoption


I think the issue of states blocking adoptions via this and that has already been addressed in this discussion (this being a reference to the discussion on good faith compliance).

Anyway, the clause pointed out by Normlpeople regarding adding protocols and what not to the standards of the WAAA is my primary issue with this proposal, although the fact remains that the rest of this proposal is sensible, and I believe the gnomes could make a good enough set of standards for this whole assembly, being, well, gnomes. Hence, Mundiferrum shall be voting for this proposal.

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Im starting to think people just read the titles on these things and if it sounds warm and fuzzy they vote yes

Really ambassador? Only now do you realize this? I've only been active in the WA for less than six months and I already note that! :rofl:
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:22 am

Traxa wrote:Im starting to think people just read the titles on these things and if it sounds warm and fuzzy they vote yes

OOC: It often seems like that, yes. Also, there's possibly what some regulars call a 'lemming vote' effect, where some people who see that one side's already ahead by quite a bit automatically agree with the existing majority.
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Postby Free Tristania » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:41 pm

DECLARES that no National Adoption Board may establish regulations, procedures, protocols, or standards regarding intercountry adoption that are contradictory or additional to those established by WAAA;

The United Kingdom of Free Tristania & Celtabria is an independent country and not a colony. We will set our own additional rules whenever we deem appropriate. In fact, We believe there are quite a few countries that might deem this step by the General Assembly to be inappropriate and patronising.
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Postby Free Tristania » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:45 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:As I indicated earlier, I am AGAINST this proposal because I believe it is perfectly reasonable to discriminate in favor of married couples, especially those incapable of having children, in adoption.

The ambassador of the United Kingdom agrees with this position. However, we may like to add that our own laws ban the adoption of children by same-sex couples and we do not want a couple of tyrants 3000 miles away to force laws on usthat will damage our independence as well as the corner stone of our society: the family. The United Kingdom will therefore seek to resign from the World Assembly before this piece of legislation is signed into law.
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Postby District XIV » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:49 pm

Free Tristania wrote:our own laws ban the adoption of children by same-sex couples

It's in violation of WAR #15 to have laws of the sort.

Specifically in violation of this clause:
(b) No State shall establish different conditions, requirements or effects to unions of persons of the same or different sex.

(edit) you just resigned from the WA. So, nevermind, then...
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Postby Defwa » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:53 pm

District XIV wrote:(edit) you just resigned from the WA. So, nevermind, then...

OOC: So good riddance, then. Glad your backwards opinion has ceased to matter.
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Postby The Eternal Kawaii » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:41 pm

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The voting in Anime standing at 5-2 in favor, we hereby vote "Aye" on this proposal.
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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:37 am

I'm delighted to see this pass and I thank all those who supported it.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:50 am

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