[PASSED] Condemn The Dourian Embassy

[SkyDip]

OOC: Question to raiders..Why are most raiders trolls/people who hate religious people?

Yeah, take that question elsewhere. This is for discussion on the proposal.

[SkyDip]

I don't like that this implies the ideology of NatSov being condemnable O.o Or at least repealing poor legislation.

The ideology in and of itself? No. Using repeals to impress this ideology on the WA? Certainly, especially when said ideology is, at its foundation, anti-WA.

[Venico]

At its foundation it is anti-superfluous laws. It means a preference towards leaving issues to nations rather than the WA. And he isn't impressing the ideology on the WA...he makes a coherent argument and then the WA agrees with him allowing his repeals to be passed. That's hardly condemnable.

[Ancian]

Against

[Mallorea and Riva]

At its foundation it is anti-superfluous laws. It means a preference towards leaving issues to nations rather than the WA. And he isn't impressing the ideology on the WA...he makes a coherent argument and then the WA agrees with him allowing his repeals to be passed. That's hardly condemnable.

Exactly.

[Ahntong]

Again the same proposal with the same sort of reasons given in its support. How often is the Security Council supposed to vote on and turn down this? I think there should be a rule that makes it impossible to submit the same proposal with the same justification over and over again to the Council, without a significant lapse of time inbetween (such as four or six months). Otherwise it just seems that people keep the Council voting until their favored result comes out; and that not only signals a certain disrespect for democratic decisions, it also takes up time & resources that could be spend on other proposals.

[The Dourian Embassy]

and that not only signals a certain disrespect for democratic decisions, it also takes up time & resources that could be spend on other proposals.

I sincerely like the sound of that.

[Laeriland]

The Republic has no issue with Douria and therefore will not support this, nor vote in favour of it if it were to make it to vote.

[Margno]

I'd suggest at least mentioning his outrageously unethical behavior in the GA#2 scandal. I get that Auralia's divisive and a lot of people aren't gonna want to feel like they're supporting him, but the Dourian Embassy has clearly crossed a line.

[Inventio]

I'd suggest at least mentioning his outrageously unethical behavior in the GA#2 scandal. I get that Auralia's divisive and a lot of people aren't gonna want to feel like they're supporting him, but the Dourian Embassy has clearly crossed a line.

OOC: It was submitted before that, unfortunately. I don't think SkyDip is going to pull it from the queue 3 approvals before quorum.

[Mousebumples]

I'd suggest at least mentioning his outrageously unethical behavior in the GA#2 scandal. I get that Auralia's divisive and a lot of people aren't gonna want to feel like they're supporting him, but the Dourian Embassy has clearly crossed a line.

OOC: It was submitted before that, unfortunately. I don't think SkyDip is going to pull it from the queue 3 approvals before quorum.

I agree - although I wish he would. I think that would be a much stronger argument that would be much more likely to pass.

I'm not able to support this version, I'm afraid, but I hope that should this condemnation attempt fail, Elias will revise and then try again.

[Starkmoor]

We support this, because of the abuse of the process detailed in the proposal and the underhanded tactics on display in the General Assembly right now in regards to the charter repeal proposal put forth by Auralia. If left unchecked this kind of behavior could grow and pose a serious threat to international cooperation.


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Comrade Frank K. Burlingame
World Assembly Ambassador for the People's Republic of Starkmoor

[Chester Pearson]

I agree - although I wish he would. I think that would be a much stronger argument that would be much more likely to pass.

I personally feel that Douria's behavior regarding that particular should not be glorified within a condemnation. All it will do is set a bad precedent for other players to follow.

[Mallorea and Riva]

I agree - although I wish he would. I think that would be a much stronger argument that would be much more likely to pass.

I personally feel that Douria's behavior regarding that particular should not be glorified within a condemnation. All it will do is set a bad precedent for other players to follow.

If only we had some sort of tool to express our condemnation of his actions via the SC.

[Chester Pearson]

I personally feel that Douria's behavior regarding that particular should not be glorified within a condemnation. All it will do is set a bad precedent for other players to follow.

If only we had some sort of tool to express our condemnation of his actions via the SC.

It was merely a suggestion. I am hoping this thread does not devolve into the shit storm the repeal of #2 has....

[0rville Redenbacher]

Popcorn! Get your piping hot buttered popcorn right here! Free popcorn to everyone taking part in the "Condemn The Dourian Embassy" debate!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

"I voted for the resolution, since it has reached vote and is well past quorum at this point. Nothing personal Dourian Embassy; however, we're not happy with the actions outlined within the proposal ourselves" Said Charles as he smugly took his seat again and shifted around his cellphone looking at the news of his vote in his country.

[Burtonia WA Embassy]

Your other arguments are persuasive, but I cannot cast my one humble vote in favor of a resolution which argues that repealing resolutions is condemnable. Majorities voted for those repeals, it's not like the target nation destroyed something against everyone else's wishes. Also, having a nice name does not guarantee that the resolution was effective at achieving its goals, lacked unintended consequences, and/or was an appropriate matter for international action.

[Kelinfort]

"Oh mercy. Bring the popcorn, boys!"

--Ambassador Peshe

(In all honesty, Auralia lost all credibility with me when the whole self commend thing came to pass. Again, with the WA mission, any shred of voting for another resolution similar, I shall not vote for. A personal vendetta is hardly worth a condemnation, unless you decide to condemn Auralia as well.)

[Railana]

Strongly opposed. The World Assembly delegation from Douria has made it quite clear that they desire a condemnation; it would be a greater punishment to deprive them of what is, in their eyes, a perverse badge of honour.

Joseph Fulton
Chief Ambassador, Railanan Mission to the World Assembly

[Applebania]

Claire grabs some popcorn, and some hard drink.

[The Sotoan Union]

How can the ideology The Dourian Embassy is advocating be harmful to the WA if the WA keeps voting on passing the proposals. It's just democracy at work.

[Laeriland]

The Republic fails to see the point of this resolution, apart from it being blatant slander about Douria, therefore we have voted against it

[Chester Pearson]

(In all honesty, Auralia lost all credibility with me when the whole self commend thing came to pass. Again, with the WA mission, any shred of voting for another resolution similar, I shall not vote for. A personal vendetta is hardly worth a condemnation, unless you decide to condemn Auralia as well.)

Where is the personal vendetta mentioned?

Yet another sad case of someone blowing their horn before they actually READ the resolution....

[SkyDip]

(In all honesty, Auralia lost all credibility with me when the whole self commend thing came to pass. Again, with the WA mission, any shred of voting for another resolution similar, I shall not vote for. A personal vendetta is hardly worth a condemnation, unless you decide to condemn Auralia as well.)

Where is the personal vendetta mentioned?

Yet another sad case of someone blowing their horn before they actually READ the resolution....

It's amazing how people get away with that.