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I am not too sure on the legality of "forums", especially in the context of this proposal, so if someone could clarify that for me, I would be appreciative.

Commend 1 Infinite Loop

Category: Commendation | Nominee: 1 Infinite Loop | Proposed By: Ramaeus

The Security Council,

Noting that 1 Infinite Loop was delegate of The East Pacific (TEP) for three years, and founder of The Confederated East Pacific,

Understanding that 1 Infinite Loop has an exceptionally long, prominent history as delegate of TEP, ensuring stability, security and activity within TEP whilst the other Pacific regions were often embroiled in wars, in-fighting, and political upheaval and unrest,

Recognizing some of the accomplishments of 1 Infinite Loop in their capacity as delegate of TEP, notably: successfully defending TEP against two large invader armies, boosting the activity and interest in self-government of the nations of TEP, creating the first, and to this day only, regional forums of TEP, creating the first government of TEP, and the creation of an eccentric and welcoming culture and tradition,

Believing that the accomplishments stated above serve as sufficient examples of the aforementioned values of leadership that 1 Infinite Loop strove for during their time as delegate,

Further Recognizing that 1 Infinite Loop has a myriad of achievements outside of their role as delegate which have helped to free, secure and stabilize the region,

Observing that 1 Infinite Loop worked tirelessly to free TEP from “the Empire” – a group of nations that invaded, oppressed and occupied TEP for over four months,

Further Noting that 1 Infinite Loop, during “the Empire's” occupation of TEP, revealed that Lord Rahl, a high ranking member of the Empire, was spying on TEP through a puppet nation of theirs named Biyah,

Aware that revealing the status of Biyah as a puppet of Lord Rahl allowed the region's rightful stewards to be free from unwanted interference and spying, which allowed for the eventual liberation of TEP under A Slanted Black Stripe,

Applauding 1 Infinite Loop's role in the creation of The Concordat (the document which guides TEP to this day), which granted new, widespread freedom to all nations of TEP,

Further Applauding 1 Infinite Loop's role as a co-founder of the new, democratic government of TEP (which is still in existence to this day), and aware that this government has seen unprecedented activity and interest from the natives of TEP,

Concluding that 1 Infinite Loop performed admirably as delegate of TEP, protecting TEP in its infancy, creating a regional government and forum, a sense of identity and culture, and an interest in self-governance, all of which have made TEP the region it is today,

Further Believing that any nation which shapes the identity of a region as large as TEP is deserving of the highest recognition and acclaim,

Hereby Commends 1 Infinite Loop.

tl;dr

but still yes.

YES!
One Loop to rule them all

Hail Loop, Supreme Eternal Delegate of The East Pacific and the Founder of Loopism!

But seriously, Loop is one helluva guy and this is long over due. This has my support.

LoopCoup2014

Forums should be fine in this wording.

May just be me but this seems very much like a single region Commend. Why does the international community care that he contributed to TEP? What has he done that we care about?

Mallorea and Riva wrote:Forums should be fine in this wording.

Cool, thank you.

Venico wrote:May just be me but this seems very much like a single region Commend. Why does the international community care that he contributed to TEP? What has he done that we care about?

Yeah, it is. SC#110 and SC#118 are both resolutions that commended nations for their actions within a region. There are also a plethora of other commendations which commended nations for a tremendous amount of work in one or two categories. For example, SkyDip, Aba, and Mousebumples.

Looks very well-constructed to me.

SkyDip wrote:Looks very well-constructed to me.

Why, thank you SkyDip.

Those three examples you mentioned had work in the WA. Which lends itself to diversity. My questions aren't meant to be sinister, I just want the resolution to tell me why the international community cares.

To me this reads "He was great in TEP. He made democracy in TEP. He really helped TEP. He was uhhhh...good in TEP. Commend!" I want more from that. What did he do interregionally? For a council that constantly asks in liberation and condemnation proposals "Seems like a regional matter." I want this resolution to tell me WHY this isn't just a regional matter. Mention work he did outside of TEP, diversify it a bit ya know?

The international community cares because of his exemplary work in TEP, which is part of the international community. Why you feel that region whores or WA authors back-patting each other should be the only ones commended is perplexing.

That said, IDK much about 1 Infinite Loop and will wait for more commentary before deciding on my vote. The resolution looks great.

Sounds a bit weird to my ears to write that Biyah is a puppet of Lord Rahl. I'd think it was the other way around, with Biyah being the main nation.

Eist, respectfully, don't put words in my mouth. When I see a commend, or condemn, I want to see diversity. I don't like seeing a person get commended just for WA authorship or just defending. I don't like seeing a person condemned just for raiding or for just a single coup.

I just want to see something in this resolution that isn't just about TEP. Malice is also a part of the interregional community and Cormac has done wonders for it. Let me start writing a commend...

Just to clarify I'm not saying 1IL doesn't deserve a commend, I'm just saying I want the resume to look good and have diversity outside of a single region.

Eist, it isn't unreasonable to expect a significant international contribution before being commended in the Security Council. To bring up an example more reputable than myself: Shall we commend Lethen for his contribution to Europeia? Do you even know who Lethen is?

For me, this is a no-brainer. Anyone whose contributions are exclusively to a UCR wouldn't be commended, and 1 Infinite Loop shouldn't be either. Feeders and Sinkers are not special, in the grand scheme of things; they just have artificially higher populations that should make them real powerhouses, but they don't because GCRs utterly fail to integrate their populations into their forum communities.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be commended. I just want to see interregional work on here first, that's all.

Cormacville wrote:For me, this is a no-brainer. Anyone whose contributions are exclusively to a UCR wouldn't be commended, and 1 Infinite Loop shouldn't be either.

Haven't really made up my mind on whether I'd support a commendation of Loop, but in the early years he was a pretty big part of gameplay. He was one of the Farkers, a senator at the Meritocracy (don't know how involved he was there though) and his early support of the NPO definitely had consequences for interregional gameplay politics. He also ran a very successful flag thread.

I have heard of Lethen; I don't know if they should be commended or not, and the same goes for 1 Infinite Loop. I just think that it's a ridiculous expectation that someone has to have done either work in multiple regions or been involved in GP/WA to be commendable.

If you think I was putting words in your mouth, Venico, then please elaborate on what you meant by "He was great in TEP. He made democracy in TEP. He really helped TEP. He was uhhhh...good in TEP. Commend!" if not that they should have achievements either in other regions, (in GP), or in the WA. What am I leaving out that you are suggesting?

Defending is a commendable act that doesn't involve leaving your region. So is WA authorship but apparently you have something against that. Diplomatic work between regions also doesn't involve being a "region whore". There is plenty to do that actually effects other regions besides your home one.

I disagree with the notion that significant contributions to a feeder by itself is not worthy of commendation. I know of Loop but I'd like to learn more before deciding whether or not his contributions were enough. As was pointed out there may be some other things to bring in outside of TEP as well.

well he has maintained the founder in Farkistan on and off for quite a lot time....supposed birth place of invading so I believe that did have an impact on the NS community.

Venico wrote:Defending is a commendable act that doesn't involve leaving your region. So is WA authorship but apparently you have something against that. Diplomatic work between regions also doesn't involve being a "region whore". There is plenty to do that actually effects other regions besides your home one.

Who's putting words in whose mouth now?

I'm co-authoring Commend Anime Daisuki for goodness' sake. I'm clearly both pro-commending people for defending, WA authorship, and being involved in multiple regions. Just because I think it's valid to commend someone because they are primarily committed to intra-regional happenings, DOES NOT mean that I am against commending people for inter-regional or global work. This is, I'm sure, patently obvious to anyone that has a 5-year old's grasp of logic.

Grow up.

Venico wrote:Those three examples you mentioned had work in the WA. Which lends itself to diversity. My questions aren't meant to be sinister, I just want the resolution to tell me why the international community cares.

You missed the other two examples: Commend Krulltopia, and Commend A Slanted Black Stripe. Both nominees were commended for their intra-regional work.

Ananke II wrote:Haven't really made up my mind on whether I'd support a commendation of Loop, but in the early years he was a pretty big part of gameplay. He was one of the Farkers, a senator at the Meritocracy (don't know how involved he was there though) and his early support of the NPO definitely had consequences for interregional gameplay politics. He also ran a very successful flag thread.

I was not aware of Loop's involvement in the Meritocracy. Thank you for the information, I'll be sure to investigate it thoroughly.

Cormacville wrote:To bring up an example more reputable than myself: Shall we commend Lethen for his contribution to Europeia? Do you even know who Lethen is?

For me, this is a no-brainer. Anyone whose contributions are exclusively to a UCR wouldn't be commended, and 1 Infinite Loop shouldn't be either. Feeders and Sinkers are not special, in the grand scheme of things; they just have artificially higher populations that should make them real powerhouses, but they don't because GCRs utterly fail to integrate their populations into their forum communities.

That depends on how long Lethen has been involved in Europeia, and how much they have contributed to the region. If they have influenced nearly every aspect of Europeia like Loop did in TEP, then why not?

So how much did one loop raid?

Venico wrote:So how much did one loop raid?

Haha, quite a lot. I don't have the exact numbers, but I have it on very good authority that he was at least involved in every Farker invasion till the invasion of The Heartland.

Don't forget he successfully defended TEP against an invasion by the evil RRA!