PASSED: International Postal Union

[Grays Harbor]

Though there may be safe guards that will be set in place after the creation of the IPU, I feel that this resolution leaves too many holes in policy that could make it easier to smuggle items from nation to nation. If the resolution would be revised to more clearly define what authority each individual nation would still hold to screen the mail being delivered by the IPU I would be more inclined to vote for it. Until then I regrettably with have to oppose this resolution and hopefully others will see my concern. I would like to make it clear, though, that i do in fact support this idea, I am just worried about execution.

On behalf of the Empire,
Ethan Oglesbee

We would like to remind the ambassador that while it may sound a wonderful idea to completely delineate what each and every nation may or may not do, there is a 3500 word limit on these resolutions. There is also no prohibition to each nations postal services setting policies of their own. Objections based on minutia, things which are under the control of the individual postal services do not serve as a good basis for objection. This proposal is about the delivery of international mail, not to micromanage the internal workings of each and every postal system or service.

[United Habsburg]

From the Offices of the Newly Appointed, Supreme Postmaster To His Grace The Emperor
"Goody! This is precisely what we need! Wooooooohoooooooooooo! International Postal Union! Postal workers Unite! Oh sorry.........." trails into an embarrassed silence.
as reported by His loyal Secretary.

[Grays Harbor]

Brikkel just shakes his head and heads out to the ambassadors club.

[Norstal]

Finally. A competent resolution that does not involve the Security Council. This will surely increase efficiency for transporting goods and increase the amount of gold in my coffers. Except for section 6, the fee part. That is quite an extortion, it should have a limit on the fee or some sort. But I guess it is menial. Regardless, I will note that the Norsican Board will support this resolution. Well Done.

Sincerely,
Ambassador Martin Slyman
Norsican Foreign Relations Divsion

[Telfanis]

We have observed the formation of this resolution and gladly support it now that it is at vote.
-Excerpt from a statement issued by the Telfani High Council

[The Magic Spirit]

2a.ii. EMPHASISES that the definition of the freedom of transit does not imply that a member state is obliged to allow postal administrations to traverse its territory, in order to deliver postal items;

Are we talking a lack of obligation to allow foreign postal workers in our own territories or am I reading this wrong? This clause isn't clear to me. I would much rather have seen a resolution that didn't allow people to opt out of delivering things for frivolous reasons, but this is better than nothing.

[Bears Armed]

and if this proves an issue an amendment can be added.

No, it can't: Amending passed WA resolutions is against the organisation's rules.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Finally. A competent resolution that does not involve the Security Council. This will surely increase efficiency for transporting goods and increase the amount of gold in my coffers. Except for section 6, the fee part. That is quite an extortion, it should have a limit on the fee or some sort. But I guess it is menial. Regardless, I will note that the Norsican Board will support this resolution. Well Done.

Sincerely,
Ambassador Martin Slyman
Norsican Foreign Relations Divsion

Section 6 is a balance between profit and fairness: the debate originally suggested flat fees, but the ambassadors complained about distance. Then we suggested any fees, then they complained about fairness. So now we settled for the phrase reasonable fee, plain and simple, and its an operative clause.

[Golgoglot]

Golgoglot will abstain from voting until such time that we are able to understand the resolution ourselves and better evaluate the discussion thus far.

[OOC: And maybe after I can get a good night's sleep...]

[Grays Harbor]

2a.ii. EMPHASISES that the definition of the freedom of transit does not imply that a member state is obliged to allow postal administrations to traverse its territory, in order to deliver postal items;

Are we talking a lack of obligation to allow foreign postal workers in our own territories or am I reading this wrong? This clause isn't clear to me. I would much rather have seen a resolution that didn't allow people to opt out of delivering things for frivolous reasons, but this is better than nothing.

That was inserted mostly at one members request as they continued to insist, despite myriad explanations, that this proposal somehow permitted foreign postal workers to enter foreign nations and deliver the mail even though that was not the case, so the clause was added to "prove" that the post office of country A was responsible for country A, and the postal service of country B was responsible for country B, and that postal workers from country A could not enter country B with impunity to deliver their letters.

[Grays Harbor]

Golgoglot will abstain from voting until such time that we are able to understand the resolution ourselves and better evaluate the discussion thus far.

[OOC: And maybe after I can get a good night's sleep...]

This resolution, in a nut shell, provides for the efficient and timely delivery of mail between nations without surcharge, letter class reduction or delay. Thats all. It is an international postal treaty for all WA members.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Golgoglot will abstain from voting until such time that we are able to understand the resolution ourselves and better evaluate the discussion thus far.

[OOC: And maybe after I can get a good night's sleep...]

This resolution, in a nut shell, provides for the efficient and timely delivery of mail between nations without surcharge, letter class reduction or delay. Thats all. It is an international postal treaty for all WA members.

Ms. SARAH HARPER: It's like GA #51 except it is postal. Since the IHACC came into effect, disaster recovery has increased in most member states observed. The IPU aims to follow the success story of the IHACC in the world of mail. and as the honoured ambassador to Grays Harbour says, it's all in a nutshell.

We have already highlighted the problems and inefficiencies that will result without the IPU and her IRC: Let's focus on the IRC for this part: without it, civilians would be wasting money for postage for the reply letters as the original sender is clearly unable to create a standard return envelope that would be accepted everywhere, like these ones in our country:

The problem when sending form another country back to home is that the national postal administration of that country may have a different service that may not recognise our envelopes. It may also be that the stated postage is too insufficient to send. Since the postal rates varies from country to country when replying to a service in Charlotte Ryberg, there needs to be a universal coupon in which it would work everywhere, even if it came from Charlotte Ryberg. This is where the IRC comes in. An example of the benefits of the IRC is that the responders do not have to pay for the postage with the coupon, which is beneficial to poorer countries. This will mean that a supplier that sells collapsible water bottles by mail order to developing countries will get more replies and orders, and the profit they really deserve.

This along with the freedom of transit, in which all member states must observe: it will also respect independence of the national postal administrations as they will be able to set their own fees, yet fair to discourage discrimination.

[Grays Harbor]

Golgoglot will abstain from voting until such time that we are able to understand the resolution ourselves and better evaluate the discussion thus far.

[OOC: And maybe after I can get a good night's sleep...]

This resolution, in a nut shell, provides for the efficient and timely delivery of mail between nations without surcharge, letter class reduction or delay. Thats all. It is an international postal treaty for all WA members.

Ms. SARAH HARPER: It's like GA #51 except it is postal. Since the IHACC came into effect, disaster recovery has increased in most member states observed. The IPU aims to follow the success story of the IHACC in the world of mail. and as the honoured ambassador to Grays Harbour says, it's all in a nutshell.

We have already highlighted the problems and inefficiencies that will result without the IPU and her IRC: Let's focus on the IRC for this part: without it, civilians would be wasting money for postage for the reply letters as the original sender is clearly unable to create a standard return envelope that would be accepted everywhere, like these ones in our country:

The problem when sending form another country back to home is that the national postal administration of that country may have a different service that may not recognise our envelopes. It may also be that the stated postage is too insufficient to send. Since the postal rates varies from country to country when replying to a service in Charlotte Ryberg, there needs to be a universal coupon in which it would work everywhere, even if it came from Charlotte Ryberg. This is where the IRC comes in. An example of the benefits of the IRC is that the responders do not have to pay for the postage with the coupon, which is beneficial to poorer countries. This will mean that a supplier that sells collapsible water bottles by mail order to developing countries will get more replies and orders, and the profit they really deserve.

This along with the freedom of transit, in which all member states must observe: it will also respect independence of the national postal administrations as they will be able to set their own fees, yet fair to discourage discrimination.

We really need to employ a better speechwriter for our Embassy, preferably one from Charlotte Ryberg. Our statement appears so bland next to the fine explanation from Ms Harper and her staff.

[Krioval]

After careful thought and consideration, the Imperial Chiefdom of Krioval has elected to vote against this resolution in its current form. While we were pleased to assist in the development of earlier drafts, the more recent inclusions by Her Excellency Ms. Harper have left Krioval wanting a more compact and direct piece of legislation. Also, we are troubled that our statements to this effect were categorically ignored, and that the authors continue to spend more time congratulating one another for what amounts to confusing and possibly self-contradictory language in a resolution.

[Lord] Ambassador Darvek Tyvok
Imperial Chiefdom of Krioval

[Sadiston]

No unions!

[Grays Harbor]

No unions!

This is a "Union", as in a treaty and association of nations, not a "union" as in a labour organization. I am not certain where you get the idea it is the latter as that is nowhere in the text. Unless it is that you didn't read past the title.

[Serrland]

The final form of this looks quite appealing, its nice to see debate in the fetal stage strengthened it. Serrland will vote in favor of this.

[Grays Harbor]

That the debate stayed civil and on topic for as long as it did rather surprised us as well, knowing how things usually go here. We too are quite pleased with the way it turned out, and are grateful to all who made suggestions and comments.

[The Swiss Guardsmen]

I applaud the effort being put into this project (a rather daring one if I may say). The Holy Empire of The Swiss Guardsmen is always welcoming to the supporters of expanding global finance capital, and it is our belief that the passing of this proposal is a crucial cornerstone to expanding the global view to a "larger picture."

[The Rich Port]

No unions!

Seriously, get over yourself. The resolution talks about "INTERNATIONAL union", not a frickin' labor union. God... idiot

[Grays Harbor]

No unions!

*snippic*

Seriously, get over yourself. The resolution talks about "INTERNATIONAL union", not a frickin' labor union. God... idiot

Be nice, they may have just misread it.

[A mean old man]

Aegara is currently the only big delegate to have voted against...

...which basically makes this resolution even more legitimate in the eyes of everyone else.

[Maxaxle]

Who the heck voted against?

[Massachussets Bay]

Who the heck voted against?

Again: read clause 4b.

But the Commonwealth's arguments fall on deaf ears.

Regards.

[Grays Harbor]

Who the heck voted against?

Again: read clause 4b.

But the Commonwealth's arguments fall on deaf ears.

Regards.

4. SPECIFIES that:

b) Member states may determine procedures for handling hazardous materials in postal administrations under their jurisdiction, and to determine which items may or may not be transmitted through their postal system; including but not limited to hazardous or illegal materials;

We also do not see where your arguments have fallen on "deaf ears". Many have responded to your initial statement, many have pointed out an unreasonable nation generally can and will subvert most anything to their own purposes, and we do not see how this is any different. It is not unreasonable to permit individual nations determine what may or may not pass through their postal systems. There are many different cultures, and non-human species which this will cover. What may be completely inocuous to one may be deadly to another.

Just because many choose to debate against your point does not qualify as "deaf ears", but as a difference of perspective or point of view.