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Postby Afrasiab » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:24 am

Yay! This is now at vote!

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Postby Koderland » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:49 am

Koderland votes against this commendation on the grounds that Auralia has consistently put forth measures to decrease freedom in the name of religion. The authorship of resolutions focusing on the economy is but a small part of it's agenda, as Auralia has seen fit to support numerous moralistic resolutions and repeals that would desecrate the very idea of equal human rights for all. The way in which Auralia and like-minded nations try to disguise intolerance and bigotry as "Godliness" and "morality" should be condemned by this assembly immediately.
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Postby The united states of Saints » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:39 am

Koderland wrote:Koderland votes against this commendation on the grounds that Auralia has consistently put forth measures to decrease freedom in the name of religion. The authorship of resolutions focusing on the economy is but a small part of it's agenda, as Auralia has seen fit to support numerous moralistic resolutions and repeals that would desecrate the very idea of equal human rights for all. The way in which Auralia and like-minded nations try to disguise intolerance and bigotry as "Godliness" and "morality" should be condemned by this assembly immediately.

I agree with this and vote against the commendation of Auralia
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:57 am

The united states of Saints wrote:
Koderland wrote:Koderland votes against this commendation on the grounds that Auralia has consistently put forth measures to decrease freedom in the name of religion. The authorship of resolutions focusing on the economy is but a small part of it's agenda, as Auralia has seen fit to support numerous moralistic resolutions and repeals that would desecrate the very idea of equal human rights for all. The way in which Auralia and like-minded nations try to disguise intolerance and bigotry as "Godliness" and "morality" should be condemned by this assembly immediately.

I agree with this and vote against the commendation of Auralia

We agree as well, though we suspect this will pass. Is it time yet for that condemnation draft?

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Postby SkyDip » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:00 pm

Wrapper wrote:We agree as well, though we suspect this will pass. Is it time yet for that condemnation draft?

Far too early to suspect that, as none of the GCR Delegates have voted.
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Postby The united states of Saints » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:17 pm

SkyDip wrote:
Wrapper wrote:We agree as well, though we suspect this will pass. Is it time yet for that condemnation draft?

Far too early to suspect that, as none of the GCR Delegates have voted.

Yes but who knows, I doubt that most voters even bother to read the whole resolution and try to understand what he has done which is mostly authorship of small resolutions. I also noticed that there are no specific contributions listed in the resolution
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Postby SkyDip » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:19 pm

The united states of Saints wrote:
SkyDip wrote:Far too early to suspect that, as none of the GCR Delegates have voted.

Yes but who knows, I doubt that most voters even bother to read the whole resolution and try to understand what he has done which is mostly authorship of small resolutions.

Absolutely correct. But when 300+ votes from Cerb or 400+ from McM come in, that could swing the lemmings one way or another.

The united states of Saints wrote:I also noticed that there are no specific contributions listed in the resolution

You obviously didn't read down to the "Grateful" clause, then.
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Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Postby Good Morning » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:27 pm

I wholeheartedly support this commendation. Auralia is the man.

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Postby The Saint James Islands » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:55 pm

Amongst Democratic Socialist Assembly residents, voting is currently 2-9 (81% Against).

This is such music to my ears. No one can possibly know how much I am enjoying this right now. My current lack of sobriety is off of happiness rather than booze for once in my WA career. For the first time in ages, I can finally act upon the Commonwealth's shiny Security Council policy. As with all other substantive Security Council proposals, we Saint James Islanders are AGAINST this resolution as a matter of course. No offence to the candidate, of course.
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Postby Port blood » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:36 pm

SkyDip wrote:Absolutely correct. But when 300+ votes from Cerb or 400+ from McM come in, that could swing the lemmings one way or another.


Just leaving this here in a attempt to let people realize the truth... :P
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Postby Voltzenkrad » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:42 pm

Koderland wrote:Koderland votes against this commendation on the grounds that Auralia has consistently put forth measures to decrease freedom in the name of religion. The authorship of resolutions focusing on the economy is but a small part of it's agenda, as Auralia has seen fit to support numerous moralistic resolutions and repeals that would desecrate the very idea of equal human rights for all. The way in which Auralia and like-minded nations try to disguise intolerance and bigotry as "Godliness" and "morality" should be condemned by this assembly immediately.


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Postby Koderland » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:24 pm

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I agree comrade. :bow: <---- Exterminate these things. Religion is just a large cluster of brainwashed individuals who are born into it and can't think for themselves.


As the delegate from a nation that prides itself on religious freedom I could not disagree with you more. The true issue is the way in which a government endorses one religious view over another, not that religion exists at all. It is a government's duty to protect people of all races, religions, genders and sexuality. Your view that religious people are in some way inferior human beings is no better than a nation that treats sexual minorities as second class citizens.
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Postby Applebania » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:27 pm

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Postby Tabcorp Park » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:48 pm

Tabcorp Park has voted against this commend and urges anyone who cares for the general assembly to do the same.

It it our opinion that you commend a person for all of their actions and not just a few. Openly admitting to defying resolutions in their Facebook is not commendable.
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Postby Aetrina » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:53 pm

While we are tempted to vote for this just for the fact that it contains no defender rhetoric, The Kingdom of Aetrina cannot justify a for vote at this time. While the nominated nation's "compliance" to certain resolutions is creative at best, as we all know there can be no real non-compliance. While we feel it is counterproductive to remain in the WA if you are not going to follow it's rules, we also understand some of the moral ambiguity that can cause. Overall the nominated nation has made a name for themselves by publicly stating their intentions to not comply with several WA resolutions. In our opinion this is not commendable. Nor do we agree that it is worthy of condemnation either.
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Postby Communist Eraser » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:22 pm

So this is the 2nd time the WA voters has sided with the non-compliancers. When is the other side going to accept it?
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:24 pm

Communist Eraser wrote:So this is the 2nd time the WA voters has sided with the non-compliancers. When is the other side going to accept it?

The implication that this is a referendum on noncompliance by the voters is a monumentally stupid statement to put forth. I actually have a headache from trying to wrap my mind around how those dots became connected in your mind.
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Postby Elke and Elba » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:01 pm

No worries, if it's a lemming vote it's easy to deal with. A repeal would be rather in order :p and accepted if 'Lemming Effect' is used. ^_^
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Postby Communist Eraser » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:36 pm

Take a panadol Mall. It's obvious how I connected the dots when most of the posts in this thread are about Auralia's non compliance.

Not sure aboutt hat Elke. You usually have to do something really horrible to get a commend removed - I think Sedge was the only one? QotD also had his removed, but that was after his region, The Featured Region Followers got commended so it was redundant. People generally don't like to rip badges off others.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:38 pm

Communist Eraser wrote:Take a panadol Mall. It's obvious how I connected the dots when most of the posts in this thread are about Auralia's non compliance.

Not sure aboutt hat Elke. You usually have to do something really horrible to get a commend removed - I think Sedge was the only one? QotD also had his removed, but that was after his region, The Featured Region Followers got commended so it was redundant. People generally don't like to rip badges off others.

The second implication, that the majority of voters have read this thread, has actually blown my mind even more than the first one.
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Postby Sciongrad » Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:58 pm

Communist Eraser wrote:So this is the 2nd time the WA voters has sided with the non-compliancers. When is the other side going to accept it?

The voters probably aren't aware of this debate we're having. Most might not even know what non-compliance is. So this isn't an example of the WA reaffirming or rejecting the notion of national sovereignty. Rather, it's an example of an author showing no regard for the GA and its customs.
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Postby Ramaeus » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:24 pm

Sciongrad wrote:The voters probably aren't aware of this debate we're having. Most might not even know what non-compliance is. So this isn't an example of the WA reaffirming or rejecting the notion of national sovereignty. Rather, it's an example of an author showing no regard for the GA and its customs.

Speaking as an SC author: In my experience, most authors who are heavily focused on the SC don't really care about the GA or what it does unless it relates to the proposal they may be writing.
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Postby Normlpeople » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:31 pm

As a region that opposes business and economy-killing legislation (often based on flawed-science and heartstring-tugging), We support this resolution. Auralia's past track record and history of ridding the WA of this particular abomination is to be commended indeed.
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Postby Lamoni » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:06 am

AGAINST. The subject of the commendation is in non-compliance with three WA resolutions, and has no business being commended by the WA.
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Postby Varislavia » Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:04 am

Completely Against

Recently, less than five hours ago, our Diplomatic Services have aknowledged that the Government of Auralia had resigned from the World Assembly in the middle of the night. Since turning his back to the WA, it would be nothing but meaningless to go any further with this proposal. This commendation should be removed from the panel.

Hope more nations join our position on this matter.
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