[PASSED] Right to Adequate Sanitation

by **Tribes Republic** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:06 pm

wouldn't this be an amendment

by **The Dark Star Republic** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:16 pm

OOC: I'm wondering about the category on this one. This was drafted before the Health category existed, but most of the funding demands of this proposal are health-related.

by **Elke and Elba** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:19 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:OOC: I'm wondering about the category on this one. This was drafted before the Health category existed, but most of the funding demands of this proposal are health-related.

OOC: I submitted under Social Justice/Significant since Health/Healthcare doesn't seem to do it justice, since the basic right to sanitation feels more like a Human Rights/Social Justice thing.

The whole thing's a mess. GA#31 (World Health Authority), GA#41 (Access to Life-saving Drugs), GA#107 (Clean Water Act) are Social Justice ones, yet GA#124 (Essential Medication Act) is a Recreational Drug Use/Legalise one. I still do remember there are some Social Justice-esque bills which are labelled Human Rights one. :meh:

by **Ratateague** » Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:22 pm

I would think that Health -> International Aid would be a more fitting category, since the aim of this bill is to improve the health of the people. As it is directing funds to developing/unequal nations and providing a framework for their improvement, this falls under what I would commonly consider foreign aid, even if it does not have a specified recipient. Also, international aid is certainly related to social justice.

by **Elke and Elba** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:11 am

Anyway, expect this to be resubmitted (albeit with possible changes) if this fails to pass.

As much as delegates can play with the lemming votes, let them be told I can play with the queue as well.

by **The Dark Star Republic** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:11 am

Ratateague wrote:I would think that Health -> International Aid would be a more fitting category, since the aim of this bill is to improve the health of the people. As it is directing funds to developing/unequal nations and providing a framework for their improvement, this falls under what I would commonly consider foreign aid, even if it does not have a specified recipient. Also, international aid is certainly related to social justice.

OOC: Normally, I'd say "too late", but I guess with the Discard function, that's no longer true. I did question the category on this, but I guess I was wrong.

by **Hakio** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:14 am

Why the hell is everyone voting against this?!

by **Brilliant Equestria** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:19 am

Barring any unforeseen irregularities arising from the specific language, we wholeheartedly support this bill. Further, we would like to commend the author and co-authors for the relatively minimal impact on the sovereignty of civilized nations.

In favor.

by **Elke and Elba** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:21 am

Hakio wrote:Why the hell is everyone voting against this?!

El simple. Aba who hates me dissed this on TNP's forums, and McMasterdonia is registering a pre-emptive 'No' vote.

I can't say about the Europeians.

EDIT: And oh, people don't speak all the polarising stuff they say on their respective forums here. How d'you expect people to know what you guys actually want?

by **Hakio** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:27 am

Votes For: 89: Creepoc Infinite (10), Nylonstein (4), Jingdood (3), Reformed Azure (3), and (69) individual WA member nations.

Votes Against: 720: McMasterdonia (488), Moronist Decisions (156), The Star of Jorj (14), Aawia (5), Jnania (4), Akin Trade Federations (2), and (51) individual WA member nations.

Once again large delegates reign in their power over us measly WA nations.

by **Separatist Peoples** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:40 am

Hakio wrote:
Votes For: 89: Creepoc Infinite (10), Nylonstein (4), Jingdood (3), Reformed Azure (3), and (69) individual WA member nations.

Votes Against: 720: McMasterdonia (488), Moronist Decisions (156), The Star of Jorj (14), Aawia (5), Jnania (4), Akin Trade Federations (2), and (51) individual WA member nations.

Once again large delegates reign in their power over us measly WA nations.

There's still almost 4 whole days left in the voting...just because a few delegates weighed in early doesn't mean that they will dictate the flow of the vote...

by **Hakio** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:41 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Hakio wrote:
Once again large delegates reign in their power over us measly WA nations.

There's still almost 4 whole days left in the voting...just because a few delegates weighed in early doesn't mean that they will dictate the flow of the vote...

ITS DOOMED

by **Wrapper** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:41 am

Votes For: 89: Creepoc Infinite (10), Nylonstein (4), Jingdood (3), Reformed Azure (3), and (69) individual WA member nations.

Votes Against: 720: McMasterdonia (488), Moronist Decisions (156), The Star of Jorj (14), Aawia (5), Jnania (4), Akin Trade Federations (2), and (51) individual WA member nations.

•71 minutes ago: McMasterdonia withdrew vote
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•82 minutes ago: McMasterdonia AGAINST (488)

Hmmm....

by **Norilova** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:27 am

The Republic of Norilova gladly votes YES to this proposal. It makes logical sense, and besides, unsanitary water and such makes our people very angry, and we would rather not have to force our riot police not to clean protester chunks off their boots.

by **Bears Armed** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:47 am

Norilova wrote:The Republic of Norilova gladly votes YES to this proposal. It makes logical sense, and besides, unsanitary water and such makes our people very angry, and we would rather not have to force our riot police not to clean protester chunks off their boots.

"You do realise that you could pass laws on the subject for yourselves, without needing a WA resolution telling you to do so, hrright?"

by **Sciongrad** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:18 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Norilova wrote:The Republic of Norilova gladly votes YES to this proposal. It makes logical sense, and besides, unsanitary water and such makes our people very angry, and we would rather not have to force our riot police not to clean protester chunks off their boots.

"You do realise that you could pass laws on the subject for yourselves, without needing a WA resolution telling you to do so, hrright?"

This resolution doesn't set up any specific laws - it's whole purpose is to help nations achieve adequate levels of sanitation when they would otherwise not have the means to do so.

Also, I regret not telling the author this sooner, but I don't think this falls under Social Justice anymore. I don't think that the category violation is so bad that it warrants a discard, but if this fails and the author wants to pursue this in the future, then the category should be changed.

by **Usocc** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:11 pm

we are suppose to raise the population of the world not decrease it everyone should have access too sanitation and health

not bad sanitation and health

please support this resolution

by **Phasma** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:40 pm

I voted no for this resolution since I personally believe that free market can fix this issue better then international law.

by **Chester Pearson** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:23 pm

Hakio wrote:Why the hell is everyone voting against this?!

Far too much WA micromanagement....

by **The Eternal Kawaii** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:28 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Norilova wrote:The Republic of Norilova gladly votes YES to this proposal. It makes logical sense, and besides, unsanitary water and such makes our people very angry, and we would rather not have to force our riot police not to clean protester chunks off their boots.

"You do realise that you could pass laws on the subject for yourselves, without needing a WA resolution telling you to do so, hrright?"

Not all nations have woods, Honored Ambassador.

by **Sciongrad** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:37 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
Hakio wrote:Why the hell is everyone voting against this?!

Far too much WA micromanagement....

Your Excellency, with all due respect, do you even know what that means? Because the only clauses that mandate anything in this resolution are extremely vague and intentionally flexible. I, like many others, am not a fan of micromanaging, that it's not a word you can just throw around to explain resolutions you don't like.

by **Chester Pearson** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:43 pm

Sciongrad wrote:
Chester Pearson wrote:
Far too much WA micromanagement....

Your Excellency, with all due respect, do you even know what that means? Because the only clauses that mandate anything in this resolution are extremely vague and intentionally flexible. I, like many others, am not a fan of micromanaging, that it's not a word you can just throw around to explain resolutions you don't like.

The WA telling us we have to build toilets is not excessive WA micromanagement? If it's not, please tell me what is then, because I would really like to know?

by **Tek Republic** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:43 pm

This seems to have some very good intentions, and seems to work well. Has some kinks, as usual with any WA proposal, since we are human, and therefor not perfect. Tek Republic votes IN FAVOR of this proposal.

by **Sciongrad** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:09 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
Sciongrad wrote:
Your Excellency, with all due respect, do you even know what that means? Because the only clauses that mandate anything in this resolution are extremely vague and intentionally flexible. I, like many others, am not a fan of micromanaging, that it's not a word you can just throw around to explain resolutions you don't like.

The WA telling us we have to build toilets is not excessive WA micromanagement? If it's not, please tell me what is then, because I would really like to know?

This resolution doesn't mandate that you build toilets, neither expressly nor implicitly. It's meant to assist nations create adequate sanitation systems and habits in areas that would otherwise not have the means to do so. The only real provisions that this resolution mandates is that you create adequate public sanitation systems, like sewers and other waste management systems, and provide access to information regarding proper sanitation. This is an inherently international issue because waste buildup and the subsequent disease caused from it do not respect national borders. So before you go around assuming that this resolution demands you build toilets, I'd suggest you read it first.

by **Zercera** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:33 pm

Though I believe that this resolution will prove expensive to the richer WA nations, in helping the poorer countries that lack means to provide adequate sanitation gain such means, the expenses that will NOT have to be paid by rich nations due to already having these measures in place, in my eyes, should offset it. It is this, combined with the Zerceran belief in helping people from all across every region, that causes us to vote yes on this resolution, though we feel that the clauses dealing with education and financing should be more specific.

[PASSED] Right to Adequate Sanitation

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