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by Natelanda » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:23 am
by Voltzenkrad » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:25 am
by Separatist Peoples » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:48 am
Voltzenkrad wrote:As my nation is a gargantuan mechanized flying country constantly being propelled around the sky by Mk V Cryion Thrusters, emigration would not go well due to the physics of jumping off a giant and fast moving object (country) from 22 kilometers in the sky.
by Vaculatestar64 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:55 am
by Voltzenkrad » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:33 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:Voltzenkrad wrote:As my nation is a gargantuan mechanized flying country constantly being propelled around the sky by Mk V Cryion Thrusters, emigration would not go well due to the physics of jumping off a giant and fast moving object (country) from 22 kilometers in the sky.
So long as you give your people the option of attempting it, you'd be in compliance.
by HEU 1 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:53 pm
by Ponderosa » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:06 pm
Retired WerePenguins wrote:That's the one thing I like about the WA; it allows me to shove my moral compass up your legislative branch, assuming a majority agrees.
Steve Prefontaine wrote:The best pace is a suicide pace, and today is a good day to die.
Christopher Hitchens wrote:Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence.
by Imperial Republic of Shadow » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:23 pm
by Kahanistan » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:04 pm
by Retired WerePenguins » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:05 pm
by Daemus » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:10 pm
by Abacathea » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:34 pm
Daemus wrote:While I fully support the rights of an individual to leave a nation, the Right of Emigration proposal has several flaws in the itemized declarations that I feel prevent it from properly executing its intended purpose.
"(a) They are subject to a medically legitimate and necessary quarantine,"
This goes into no detail about what constitutes a medically legitimate condition. As it stands, a nation could rule that the common cold is a reason for quarantine because the virus could be passed to someone who is susceptible to severe and deadly complications from a simple cold.
"(b) They are awaiting trial, undergoing legal proceedings, or if they are carrying out a sentence as a result of such legal proceedings,"
A nation has a right to bring any citizen of their nation to trial. A nation may bring any type of charge against its own citizen simply as a tactic to be exempt from allowing emigration.
One example of great concern would be a nation charging an individual for political crimes such as speaking out against that nation in a peaceful manner.
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by Ravencrest (Ancient) » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:44 pm
by The Flood » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:31 pm
by Swaneburgh » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:53 am
by Abacathea » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:03 am
Swaneburgh wrote:Freedom of movement yes but we should remain the right of not letting people enter our country's
Ravencrest wrote:Actually agree with post above.
by Redwingvksm » Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:04 pm
by Abacathea » Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:07 pm
Redwingvksm wrote:Against
I'm weary of the term "warrant", as how it's not defined.
If I committed a speeding crime in x country while I was vacationing, and come back to Redwingvksm, could country x issue a speeding warrant, and actually retrieve me in my own land?
I think not.
by The Eternal Kawaii » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:07 pm
by Abacathea » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:19 am
The Eternal Kawaii wrote:In the Name of the Eternal Kawaii, may the Cute One be praised
Emigration is a moot point for Kawaiians, since we're a landless nation. But we see the value of this resolution; if any of our tribe's host nations closed their borders they'd be effectively cutting off part of our nation from the rest. We therefore rise in support.
by Voltzenkrad » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:52 am
by Luveria » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:54 am
Voltzenkrad wrote:Actually... Now that i think of it, suicide is illegal in my country. Attempting suicide is also illegal. If you attempt to commit suicide you will be put under arrest since you just broke a law, therefore not being allowed to leave the country. And jumping from 22 kilometers in the sky is classified as suicide. Loopholes confuse me. I think this is an infinite loop. Person jumps off. Lands and dies. Dead body is under arrest for suicide. Therefore not allowed to leave country, but has left country beforehand...
by Separatist Peoples » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:01 am
Voltzenkrad wrote:Actually... Now that i think of it, suicide is illegal in my country. Attempting suicide is also illegal. If you attempt to commit suicide you will be put under arrest since you just broke a law, therefore not being allowed to leave the country. And jumping from 22 kilometers in the sky is classified as suicide. Loopholes confuse me. I think this is an infinite loop. Person jumps off. Lands and dies. Dead body is under arrest for suicide. Therefore not allowed to leave country, but has left country beforehand...
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