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[FAILED] Condemn Mikeswill

Postby Barrackistan » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:01 pm

World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that Mikeswill has already lost the commendation of this august assembly as a result of Security Council Resolution 72;

MAKING NOTE that Mikeswill has been the delegate of the region of NationStates for about 9 years and has refused to let any other nation have a chance to lead NationStates;

DISAPPROVING of the fact that Mikeswill claims to be a World Assembly member yet continues to hold a strong anti-Security Council stance against this assembly;

AWARE that Mikeswill has recently ejected numerous nations simply on the stance that they support the Security Council;

AND HORRIFIED that Mikeswill claims to be a peaceful nation yet is secretly controlling Highlander 1, a prominent raider nation, which was already proved by investigations done by the A mean old man

THUS condemns Mikeswill for their hypocrisy in the defender game and for their iron-control of NationStates
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:51 pm

Barrackistan wrote:World Assembly;
AWARE that NationStates has been a pillar of peace and unity in the international community since the beginning

Not necessarily true.

AND MAKING NOTE that Mikeswill has served as its regional delegate for a total of 9 years up this point

Indeed.

THANKFUL that Mikeswill has been an example to the World of tolerance, freedom, equality, and peace

This is laughably untrue.

APPLAUDING that Mikeswill has kept NationStates safe from raiders for a total of 9 years

By being a raider. Which doesn't make it commendable (though if you do include the clause, don't link to the NationStates region, since you'd have probably done that previously)

HOPING that this resolution encourages the delegates of non-feeder regions and other regions to treat their residents with fairness and equality

Not sure we're allowed to hope in the SC.

I think Mikes isn't a commendable nominee.
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Postby SkyDip » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:52 pm

Barrackistan wrote:
World Assembly;
AWARE that NationStates has been a pillar of peace and unity in the international community since the beginning

AND MAKING NOTE that Mikeswill has served as its regional delegate for a total of 9 years up this point

THANKFUL that Mikeswill has been an example to the World of tolerance, freedom, equality, and peace and has shown this by giving each nation a hearty welcome as it enters his region and allotting each nation a day to be featured

APPLAUDING that Mikeswill has kept NationStates safe from raiders for a total of 9 years

HOPING that this resolution encourages the delegates of non-feeder regions and other regions to treat their residents with fairness and equality

HEREBY, Commends Mikeswill for his great service to the people of his region.


I am aware that there was an attempt to Commend Mikeswill awhile back and that it was repealed but I think that Mikeswill should still deserve recognization for his efforts in securing NationStates. I personally just joined the region and am surpised on how tolerant and just Mikeswill is. I am also aware this is a bare-bone proposal and that I am still looking for more reasons to commend him. But nonetheless, have it at me.

Illegalities highlighted, and I've posted a newer version for your consideration below.

COGNIZANT that the leader of Mikeswill is a bit of prick who respects few people outside the region NationStates,

AWARE that Mikeswill has been fervently anti-Security Council since the inception of the council,

PONDERING why such an anti-Security Council nation should receive a Commendation,

POINTING OUT that Mikeswill was already Commended by SC#55, which was later repealed in SC#72,

BELIEVING that Mikeswill is not in the least bit deserving of merit from the Security Council,

HEREBY does nothing.


EDIT: See, when Mahaj and I agree, you know you're doing something wrong. :P
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Postby Barrackistan » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:09 pm

I you guys don't wanna commend him, then how about condemn him!

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Postby SkyDip » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:12 pm

Barrackistan wrote:I you guys don't wanna commend him, then how about condemn him!

...no.
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Postby Barrackistan » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:14 pm

SkyDip wrote:
Barrackistan wrote:I you guys don't wanna commend him, then how about condemn him!

...no.

I just used your version and replaced "do nothing" with condemn. Being a raider is bad enough yet how about a defender who is also a raider. That's like comparing a thief and a police officer who steals things on his free time.

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:17 pm

Who has Mikeswill raided? He's been parked in NS for ever.
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Postby SkyDip » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:20 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:Who has Mikeswill raided? He's been parked in NS for ever.

He was in DEN back in the day.
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Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:21 pm

That's not what stops modern raiders from hitting him.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby Mahaj » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:34 pm

Barrackistan wrote:
SkyDip wrote:...no.

I just used your version and replaced "do nothing" with condemn. Being a raider is bad enough yet how about a defender who is also a raider. That's like comparing a thief and a police officer who steals things on his free time.

While being a raider is condemnable, many of his condemnable actions were mentioned in the repeal of his commendation.
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Postby Barrackistan » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:51 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Barrackistan wrote:I just used your version and replaced "do nothing" with condemn. Being a raider is bad enough yet how about a defender who is also a raider. That's like comparing a thief and a police officer who steals things on his free time.

While being a raider is condemnable, many of his condemnable actions were mentioned in the repeal of his commendation.

So let's make it official with a condemnation. Losing a commendation only hurts for a second but getting condemned hurts more cause everyone who views your nation will see that ugly black badge.

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Postby SkyDip » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:54 pm

Barrackistan wrote:
Mahaj wrote:While being a raider is condemnable, many of his condemnable actions were mentioned in the repeal of his commendation.

So let's make it official with a condemnation. Losing a commendation only hurts for a second but getting condemned hurts more cause everyone who views your nation will see that ugly black badge.

Wrong again. You can't use material already covered in previous legislation.
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Postby SkyDip » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:31 pm

Barrackistan wrote:
COGNIZANT that the leader of Mikeswill is a bit of prick who respects few people outside the region NationStates,

AWARE that Mikeswill has been fervently anti-Security Council since the inception of the council,

DISGUSTED that Mikeswill claims to be anti-raider and pro-peace yet his puppet Highland 1 is a prominent raider

SHOCKED that this revelation means Mikeswill is a traitor and liar to his region as well as the international community

BELIEVING that Mikeswill is not in the least bit deserving of merit from the Security Council,

HEREBY condemns Mikeswill.

You took my perfectly legal suggestion and mucked it up in addition to taking a piece of sarcasm and turning it into an actual proposal. :palm:
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Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Postby Unibot III » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:38 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:That's not what stops modern raiders from hitting him.


*coughs*

Isn't "don't invade Highlander's region" like Rule #1 with you guys? Shit, do you even know what the Old Raiding Club is?
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Postby SkyDip » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:39 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:That's not what stops modern raiders from hitting him.


*coughs*

Isn't "don't invade Highlander's region" like Rule #1 with you guys? Shit, do you even know what the Old Raiding Club is?

Thank god the chosen one is here to enlighten us mere mortals.
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Postby Elina Serriados » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:46 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:That's not what stops modern raiders from hitting him.


*coughs*

Isn't "don't invade Highlander's region" like Rule #1 with you guys? Shit, do you even know what the Old Raiding Club is?

I'm not an old raider, Unibot. nor am I a new raider, to be 100% accurate (a strange concept for you, I know). I'm the leader of an Imperialist region, and a soldier in an Independant one.

Who is Highlander and why shouldn't I raid his region?

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Postby Unibot III » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:10 pm

SkyDip wrote:
Unibot III wrote:
*coughs*

Isn't "don't invade Highlander's region" like Rule #1 with you guys? Shit, do you even know what the Old Raiding Club is?

Thank god the chosen one is here to enlighten us mere mortals.


Oh, not a problem. I always fancy a brief mortal enlightenment session. Cheerio, chaps!
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Postby SkyDip » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:11 pm

Unibot III wrote:
SkyDip wrote:Thank god the chosen one is here to enlighten us mere mortals.


Oh, not a problem. I always fancy a brief mortal enlightenment session. Cheerio, chaps!

:hug:
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

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Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Postby Eist » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:15 pm

I think that Mikeswill would literally be the last person in this game I would like to see commended/condemned.
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:18 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:That's not what stops modern raiders from hitting him.


*coughs*

Isn't "don't invade Highlander's region" like Rule #1 with you guys? Shit, do you even know what the Old Raiding Club is?


I can't believe you guys are making me agree with Unibot :V
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Postby The Saint James Islands » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:03 am

SkyDip wrote:
AWARE that Mikeswill has been fervently anti-Security Council since the inception of the council,

PONDERING why such an anti-Security Council nation should receive a Commendation,

POINTING OUT that Mikeswill was already Commended by SC#55, which was later repealed in SC#72,

BELIEVING that Mikeswill is not in the least bit deserving of merit from the Security Council,

HEREBY does nothing.

I'd vote for this proposal. Are you sure we can't submit this instead? :p
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:45 am

Elina Serriados wrote:
Who is Highlander and why shouldn't I raid his region?

I repeat my previous question.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:06 pm

SkyDip wrote:COGNIZANT that the leader of Mikeswill is a bit of prick who respects few people outside the region NationStates,

*** Warned for flaming. *** Barrackistan gets the same *** warning *** for repeating the flame in the OP. I'd suggest you remove that immediately, or the thread will be locked.

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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:09 am

Ambroscus Koth wrote:
Unibot III wrote:
*coughs*

Isn't "don't invade Highlander's region" like Rule #1 with you guys? Shit, do you even know what the Old Raiding Club is?


I can't believe you guys are making me agree with Unibot :V
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:32 am

Well, could someone explain to me why raiders love Mikeswill and who Highlander is?

:p
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The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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