[PASSED] Commend Luna Amore

[Mahaj]

Unfortunately, I think any attempt to recognise Luna Amore's contribution to issues will fall foul of Rule 1. The above clause would be illegal.

Oh

Do it anyway!

Nah, kidding. I'll just remove it then.

[Aksun]

I would support this if puppets were not mentioned. Only reason for that is because in a defender point of view it could leave Luna vulnerable.

[Mahaj]

I would support this if puppets were not mentioned. Only reason for that is because in a defender point of view it could leave Luna vulnerable.

How?

[Unibot III]

Unfortunately, I think any attempt to recognise Luna Amore's contribution to issues will fall foul of Rule 1. The above clause would be illegal.

You could just define Issues Editors and perhaps Roleplay Trainers, for the purposes of Rule 1, as non-game-staff? It's an idea.

[SkyDip]

Unfortunately, I think any attempt to recognise Luna Amore's contribution to issues will fall foul of Rule 1. The above clause would be illegal.

You could just define Issues Editors and perhaps Roleplay Trainers, for the purposes of Rule 1, as non-game-staff? It's an idea.

Except they are game staff?

[Unibot III]

You could just define Issues Editors and perhaps Roleplay Trainers, for the purposes of Rule 1, as non-game-staff? It's an idea.

Except they are game staff?

Not neccesarily; "game staff" is whatever we consider game staff.

Perhaps the distinction is that these players aren't enforcing the rules or running the system, they're helping to contribute to the game's activities (issues, roleplay).

My gut says that what Luna Amore has been doing with issues is praiseworthy and something that should be open for commendation -- my only explanation of why I differentiate Luna's actions from mod and admin staff is that their contributions have been to the game's cultural activities, as opposed to simply enforcing and maintaining the structure of the game. Does that make sense?

It's a philosophical exploration of what Rule 1 is really trying to prohibit.

On the other hand, perhaps Rule 1's basis is negative in a sense: we wouldn't want someone condemned for their actions as a moderator, admin or issue editor or trainers -- and because it'd be weird to ban condemning them for it, but allowing them to be commended for it... inadvertently Rule 1 covers both the commendation and condemnation of staff activities. In which, it's easy to identify issue editors as staff on the basis we wouldn't want to see anyone condemned for editing issues.

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EDIT: My last argument has me convinced, so I'm going to agree with Sedge and say Rule 1 should apply for Issue Editors, because it'd be really bad to see someone condemned for contributing to the game as an Issue Editor (e.g., "EERG, SIROCCO WHY U EDIT MY ISSUE LIKE THAT???").

[Milograd]

You could just define Issues Editors and perhaps Roleplay Trainers, for the purposes of Rule 1, as non-game-staff? It's an idea.

Except they are game staff?

I'm game staff?

The horror.

[Unibot III]

Except they are game staff?

I'm game staff?

The horror.

That's actually horrifying.

[SkyDip]

EDIT: My last argument has me convinced, so I'm going to agree with Sedge and say Rule 1 should apply for Issue Editors, because it'd be really bad to see someone condemned for contributing to the game as an Issue Editor (e.g., "EERG, SIROCCO WHY U EDIT MY ISSUE LIKE THAT???").

Quite.

[Aksun]

I would support this if puppets were not mentioned. Only reason for that is because in a defender point of view it could leave Luna vulnerable.

How?

It gives away your hand so to speak and what if Luna does not want his or her puppets known?

Perhaps if you state that Luna associates with nations who have high political and civil freedoms instead of saying these are their puppets.

[The Akashic Records]

It gives away your hand so to speak and what if Luna does not want his or her puppets known?

Given the nature of NS, one can have a puppet ready at any time, not to mention that one could also have a few hundred puppets lying around, regularly kept about to have a decent population count or something to that effect in puppet storage areas.

[Luna Amore]

How?

It gives away your hand so to speak and what if Luna does not want his or her puppets known?

Perhaps if you state that Luna associates with nations who have high political and civil freedoms instead of saying these are their puppets.

Every puppet (except Revert) labeled in this proposal is already posted in my factbook. I'm not terribly concerned that this publicizes a handful of my puppets. Thanks for looking out though.

[Euroslavia]

Except they are game staff?

I'm game staff?

The horror.

This notion excites and frightens me at the same time.

[Mahaj]

Yep, so submitting this soon.

[Aksun]

It gives away your hand so to speak and what if Luna does not want his or her puppets known?

Perhaps if you state that Luna associates with nations who have high political and civil freedoms instead of saying these are their puppets.

Every puppet (except Revert) labeled in this proposal is already posted in my factbook. I'm not terribly concerned that this publicizes a handful of my puppets. Thanks for looking out though.

We'll then... You have my full support Mahaj!

[Communist Eraser]

It gives away your hand so to speak and what if Luna does not want his or her puppets known?

Perhaps if you state that Luna associates with nations who have high political and civil freedoms instead of saying these are their puppets.

Every puppet (except Revert) labeled in this proposal is already posted in my factbook. I'm not terribly concerned that this publicizes a handful of my puppets. Thanks for looking out though.

YOU ARE REVERT?!

And I thought we were friends....

[Mahaj]

So any final comments?

[Feux]

I am being completely picky, but the following clause reads odd to me:

DULY NOTING that while Luna Amore is not the first nation to register that last accomplishment (a title that instead goes to Tommy Bahama), the accomplishments are no less impressive;

I can see your intent with the clause but I failed to come to the realization upon first glance, having to look at it just a few seconds longer. If I can make a suggestion, accomplishments should not be used twice to help the reader distinguish between the last achievement on the list and the list as a whole instead perhaps reading something like the following:

DULY NOTING that while Luna Amore is not the first nation to register that last accomplishment (a title that instead goes to Tommy Bahama), the list of achievements is no less impressive;

Or something like that. Again, I am being picky.

[Mahaj]

Thanks for the suggestion, Feux.

Will consider how to fix it.

[Mahaj]

Submitted!

Looking for approvals!

[The Black Hat Guy]

Approved. I look forward to voting for this resolution.

[DWAsnia]

Approved. I look forward to voting for this resolution.

Agreed. I've enjoyed Luna Amore when I've posted my issue drafts on the forums. A great player who deserves a commendation.

[Moronist Decisions]

On behalf of Europeia, I voted NAY after a 2-4 vote mandated said action. We find that the achievements to the multiverse outlined in the resolution at vote to be rather lacking for a case for commendation, and we're frankly left underwhelmed by the text itself.

/s/ Environmental Warrior aka Moronist Decisions
World Assembly Delegate of Europeia

[Republic Arcadia]

I'm sorry, but this commendment is ridiculous!
It would create a very dangerous precedent which would say that your goal must be to achieve 100 points in economics. Why should it be the goal?!

[The Oan Isles]

This resolution does not present the candidate's actions as worthy of a commendation. Yes they achieved unique things as far as answering issues goes. Their actions are not presented as widely stretching or influential or revolutionary or even WA related and thus the resolution does not grab me and say: "Commend, Commend, Commend!" like some others that of A mean old man or Todd. I'm going to vote against and perhaps the candidate can be presented as more commendation worthy in the future.