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[DEFEATED] Commend Francos Spain

Postby A mean old man » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:27 pm

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY,

RECOGNIZING Francos Spain's replacement of Thedoc as delegate of The Pacific approximately ten years ago (during the glorious August Revolution of 2003) and subsequent establishment of the New Pacific Order (NPO),

RECALLING that this nation spent the following year acting as a guiding figure and stabilizing force within the region (which was the largest in the world at the time) and that Francos Spain's revolution prevented a trend of lethargic monarchy from emerging within The Pacific,

NOTING the storied history of the New Pacific Order and the many achievements of its devoted and members both old and new,

FURTHER NOTING the New Pacific Order's long, stable, secure, and prosperous reign in The Pacific,

BELIEVING that the nature of much of this unity and success stemmed from the "Francoist" doctrine of Francos Spain's revolution which ultimately manifested itself in Unlimited's manuscript, "Proper Francoist Thought,"

DETERMINING that The Pacific would not have achieved the same level of renown and prosperity it retains today without the governance of the NPO and the initial guidance of its first true leader,

HEREBY COMMENDS Francos Spain.

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A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby A mean old man » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:29 pm

Yes, there's a typo in there.

Not like drafting it here would've solved that issue.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Yelda » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:34 pm

A mean old man wrote:Yes, there's a typo in there.

Not like drafting it here would've solved that issue.

I've read through it twice and I don't see it. :unsure:

Anyway, full support.
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Postby A mean old man » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:35 pm

Not going to draw any more attention to it, then. ;)
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Milograd » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:37 pm

Admittedly, I was briefly scared that you might've typed "whirled" in your submission.
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Postby A mean old man » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:38 pm

Milograd wrote:Admittedly, I was briefly scared that you might've typed "whirled" in your submission.


I was tempted to.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Okarpa Binathos » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:48 pm

For!!!!

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Postby Frattastan II » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:02 pm

First, while FS's coup may be the most influential event in NS history, I doubt his actions or the way of playing he supported are particularly commendable (feeder purges; being the first to introduce and popularise repressive measures such as endorsement caps in feeders where previously residents had enjoyed a much greater freedom; trying to grab TNP's delegacy during ALSO, etc.).

Second, it always seemed to me (a little newb, admittedly) that Francos Spain was an ambitious, but rather ordinary player who had a whole mythology built around him by other Pacifican leaders because hey, a powerful foundation myth and unifying figure is always good. If you want to praise the accomplishment of the New Pacific Order, I'd prefer you targeted somebody else. ;)
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Postby A mean old man » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:15 pm

The good he achieved in the world outweighs his less palatable acts.

I do not believe this resolution exaggerates his nature and character nor does it commend Franco for more than he realistically accomplished and enabled.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Okarpa Binathos » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:25 pm

Francos did what he had to do. Thedoc was an inactive, lazy, and userite influence. People forget that FS had to introduce those measures you mentioned to keep Pacifica safe from dutch mobsters and other reactionary elements.

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Postby Frattastan II » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:45 pm

Okarpa Binathos wrote:Thedoc was an inactive, lazy, and userite influence.


Not like there's many people left who remember Thedoc's rule, or sources other than heavily-biased stuff written after his demise.
And userite is a rubbish word. :P
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:46 pm

Frattastan II wrote:


Indeed. The mark Francos Spain left across history is at least equally deserving of condemnation as commendation. Although we would think both to be most fitting, given the controversy.
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Postby Cerlon » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:51 pm

Frattastan II wrote:
Okarpa Binathos wrote:Thedoc was an inactive, lazy, and userite influence.


Not like there's many people left who remember Thedoc's rule, or sources other than heavily-biased stuff written after his demise.
And userite is a rubbish word. :P

Interesting to hear this from a GCR delegate. You may find the word silly but the meaning is a very different story.

The prevalent existence of outside players who seek to use feeders for their resources by manipulating their systems, taking power in them, and using them as a stage to gain political, social, and military power is, frankly, undeniable.
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Postby Frattastan II » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:55 pm

Indeed! Foreign influences, or GCR politicians who only care about their personal power and prestige, are a serious and really existing problem in the feeder and sinker world. However, the term "Userite" is thrown around all too often with little justification - usually to accuse without evidence people of being part of some invisible, conspiratory power - which sadly doesn't make it a meaningful descriptor outside of propaganda.
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Postby Cerlon » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:58 pm

Frattastan II wrote:Indeed! Foreign influences, or GCR politicians who only care about their personal power and prestige, are a serious and really existing problem in the feeder and sinker world. However, the term "Userite" is thrown around all too often with little justification - usually to accuse without evidence people of being part of some invisible, conspiratory power - which sadly doesn't make it a meaningful descriptor outside of propaganda.

The NPO is also saddened that the language we carefully use has been violated by the likes of those who don't understand it, but the truth definition of it describes a dangerous and parasitic presence that is a serious problem. You may not like the word, and many Pacificans have been disappointed at its misuse abroad, but the definition and the problem themselves are hardly "rubbish."
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Postby Karpathos » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:04 pm

He's just mad TRR is a "vast wasteland" (paraphrasing the great revolutionary, Mussolandia)
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Postby Crazy girl » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:24 pm

Someone who makes a mockery out of suicide? Yeah, no. Against.

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Postby Jinkx Monsoon » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:42 pm

Crazy girl wrote:Someone who makes a mockery out of suicide? Yeah, no. Against.

This. It boggles my mind how a commendation can be on the table for someone who faked their own death.

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Postby Slafstopia » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:51 pm

Crazy girl wrote:Someone who makes a mockery out of suicide? Yeah, no. Against.


Wait, this says COMMEND?

God I'm stupid. Approval withdrawn.
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Postby Abacathea » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:28 pm

Crazy girl wrote:Someone who makes a mockery out of suicide? Yeah, no. Against.


This I was not aware of. Approval withdrawn. Sorry AMOM I normally like your work but... This is a fact I wasn't aware of and it does change the line in the sand as such.
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Postby Eist » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:33 pm

Can we have some confirmation that it was indeed FS that spread the rumours of his own death? That is not my understanding.

Anyway, he returned. Yay! I don't see why that alone would prompt a commendation proposal. Wait for the buzz to die down and resubmit--it's kind-of whorish otherwise.

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:46 pm

I can't believe he's back. That's gotta be a record of turnaround after absence in this game...

Presumably, its the 10year thing.

either way, I hardly think Francos Spain deserves any kind of WA badge, either way. The NPO itself has a case for both, as do many of its subsequent leaders, but my understanding of the history doesn't suggest that he deserves either.

Had influence existed, or the Mods enforced the griefing rules that were extant at the time, it is extremely unlikely that he would have pulled if off, as well, from my understanding
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Postby Todd McCloud » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:36 pm

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Postby Durkadurkiranistan II » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:54 pm

Crazy girl wrote:Someone who makes a mockery out of suicide? Yeah, no. Against.


This. Let's just commend Brom (the TLK guy, can't recall his exact name) while we're at it...
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Postby Neo Nibu » Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:11 am

Wait wait, is that the real Francos Spain? Like the one from bleeding forever ago.

He revives after like what 10 years? Only a day ago. Doesn't say a word. Hasn't logged on yet to have had any communication with anyone.

Sure it's him?

Maybe it's true... but dude... sounds made up. I sooner expected to find out the Easter bunny is real. Wait HE IS IT'S Krulltopia! :rofl:
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